smoking fetish

[shakenbake]

And yet another one. Now, i am done.

Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 1999 Dec;8(12):1071-8.
[h=1]Marijuana use and increased risk of squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck.[/h]Zhang ZF, Morgenstern H, Spitz MR, Tashkin DP, Yu GP, Marshall JR, Hsu TC, Schantz SP.
[h=3]Source[/h]Department of Epidemiology, University of California at Los Angeles School of Public Health, and Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer Center, 90095-1772, USA. zfzhang@ucla.edu

[h=3]Abstract[/h]Marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug in the United States. In some subcultures, it is widely perceived to be harmless. Although the carcinogenic properties of marijuana smoke are similar to those of tobacco, no epidemiological studies of the relationship between marijuana use and head and neck cancer have been published. The relationship between marijuana use and head and neck cancer was investigated by a case-control study of 173 previously untreated cases with pathologically confirmed diagnoses of squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck and 176 cancer-free controls at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center between 1992 and 1994. Epidemiological data were collected by using a structured questionnaire, which included history of tobacco smoking, alcohol use, and marijuana use. The associations between marijuana use and head and neck cancer were analyzed by Mantel-Haenszel methods and logistic regression models. Controlling for age, sex, race, education, alcohol consumption, pack-years of cigarette smoking, and passive smoking, the risk of squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck was increased with marijuana use [odds ratio (OR) comparing ever with never users, 2.6; 95% confidence interval (CI), 1.1-6.6]. Dose-response relationships were observed for frequency of marijuana use/day (P for trend <0.05) and years of marijuana use (P for trend <0.05). These associations were stronger for subjects who were 55 years of age and younger (OR, 3.1; 95% CI, 1.0-9.7). Possible interaction effects of marijuana use were observed with cigarette smoking, mutagen sensitivity, and to a lesser extent, alcohol use. Our results suggest that marijuana use may increase the risk of head and neck cancer with a strong dose-response pattern. Our analysis indicated that marijuana use may interact with mutagen sensitivity and other risk factors to increase the risk of head and neck cancer. The results need to be interpreted with some caution in drawing causal inferences because of certain methodological limitations, especially with regard to interactions.

 

[assholee]

Wow OP's thread got taken over. This is a smoking fetish thread, not a 420 vs cig debate

 

[Roger Melon]

Whenever this topic comes up here there's always lots of self-righteous posts about the dangers of smoking and how disgusting it is etc. etc.

I consider myself lucky that we had one or two posts that actually related to the fact that some men find women who smoke arousing before things went south. I know smoking isn't healthy, and I would never encourage a lady to start smoking for my gratification. Cigarettes are also quite expensive, at least I'm in a position to help a few escorts who smoke out with that issue.

 

[shakenbake]

Wow OP's thread got taken over. This is a smoking fetish thread, not a 420 vs cig debate

I apologise for that, at least from my part.

I once heard the saying that,

"If she smokes, she pokes."

To me, if she smokes, that is her decision, although it is not supposed to be a healthy one. Tooth brushing, a shower and a breath mint and you're good to go.

 

[fuji]

Shake you continue to miss the point that pot smokers smoke a lot less and therefore even if it's more harmful per puff it's less dangerous overall because there are far fewer puffs.

I do think it's likely more harmful per puff for the simple reason that it's unfiltered, perhaps if it were legalized safer delivery mechanisms could be created. Like a pot version of those smokeless cigarettes.

 

[Babypowder]

[/B]Take anything 'researched' in California about cannabis with a grain of salt. I do not want to continue hi-jacking this theread, and I will not reply to any further off-comment posts.

Good, Thanks for the last word.

The research done in california have control's extremley larger than the studies you posted. this one has near 65K subjectsit stated that "marijuana use and cancer were not associated in overall analyses" even this Cali study has a large sample of +2000 subjects and it
"suggest that the association of these cancers with marijuana, even long-term or heavy use, is not strong and may be below practically detectable limits"

and regarding the carcenogens in Cannibis none of them are radioactive and one the most dangerous things in tobacco besides the 600 other chemicals they can legally add to cigarettes is nicotine which isnt a carcinogen or mutagen

I did not say or imply that ciagrete smoking was less risky cancer-wise than cannabis. .

you keep convincing yourself you didnt imply that with this comment

You are right. 420 is shown medically to be four times more carcinogenic than tobacco.

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

Believe me, I'm not worried about your smoking fetish clients as far as smokey breath goes. To me that's the ambrosia of the Gods. It's those odd-balls who don't share this fetish I'm wondering about. I have noticed that a lot of men here don't like to smell smoke either on an escort or in the room where a session happens. Is it easy enough to clear the air and have a mint when going from a smoking fetish client to a "non-smoking fetishist"?

I bottle of febreeze and a toothbrush takes care of that problem easily enough.

 

[Madeline Rhodes]

Shake you continue to miss the point that pot smokers smoke a lot less and therefore even if it's more harmful per puff it's less dangerous overall because there are far fewer puffs.

I do think it's likely more harmful per puff for the simple reason that it's unfiltered, perhaps if it were legalized safer delivery mechanisms could be created. Like a pot version of those smokeless cigarettes.

I'm sorry but this is not always accurate. I know many many many "pot smokers" that smoke them like cigarettes. In fact I have been shocked by the amount they can smoke.

You are referring to recreational smokers I guess? I've known many who smoke 1/4oz a week who consider themselves recreational users, and more that smoke upwards of 1oz-2oz a week. Please do not assume that the weekend smoker = the majority of those who regularly smoke. In fact back when I was a pothead *yeah yeah I was 17-19 and ruled the world* it was nothing for 3 of us to go through 1/4 in a night if not more...

 

[fuji]

I'm sorry but this is not always accurate.

I meant it as an average. The average cigarette smoker consumes a lot more a day than the average pot head. There are of course extremes in both cases. Even in the extremes though--are there really people who can go through as many joints in a day as a heavy chain smoker can go through cigarettes? The extreme chain smoker to go up against your extreme pot head is a guy smoking 3 or 4 packs of cigarettes a day.

In any case the average cigarette smoker consumes a pack a day, or about 20 cigarettes. I do not believe that the average pot smoker goes through 20 a day every day.