Sleepy Joe could be getting impeached!!

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mitchell76

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silentkisser said:
Because the far right-wing members demand it, despite no evidence. Kevin McCarthy needs to appease them to remain speaker, because if he denies it, the knives will come out. And finally, the major reason is to distract people's attention from Trump's massive legal issues while slander Biden despite there being no evidence. And, as many of us have been saying an impeachment was virtually guaranteed when the GOP re-took congress. MTG and Gaetz demand it, Boebert as well. As I said, Biden could cure cancer and they would slam him for hurting the profits of hospitals, doctors and pharma cos...


Also, I think it is hilarious that you think this is some gotcha response. Like, seriously, you think this actually means Biden is a bad President? Trump was impeached twice, both times with loads of evidence....but the GOP were too cowardly to convict.
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As I said before, Biden is the worst president in US history. Biden has totally dementia, and can barely function. Yet, Biden, is still running for president in 2024. What a disaster!!
 
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mitchell76 said:
As I said before, Biden is the worst president in US history. Biden has totally dementia, and can barely function. Yet, Biden, is still running for president in 2024. What a disaster!!
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You can say the same about your old fat orange hero no?
 
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silentkisser said:
GOP in disarray as they head into the 2024 election cycle....
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Nope, Gaetz was just forcing McCarthy to get off his ass, and announce an impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden. Thanks to the precedent set by Nancy Pelosi, you don't even need a house vote to do this. Thank goodness, McCarthy is following Pelosi's lead, and just starting a Biden impeachment inquiry, without a house vote, which the speaker of the House, is allowed to do!!
 
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mitchell76 said:
Nope, Gaetz was just forcing McCarthy to get off his ass, and announce an impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden. Thanks to the precedent set by Nancy Pelosi, you don't even need a house vote to do this. Thank goodness, McCarthy is following Pelosi's lead, and just starting a Biden impeachment inquiry, without a house vote, which the speaker of the House, is allowed to do!!
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Guess we'll see how this all plays out when these committees produce no evidence. I bet they'll do what McCarthy did for Hillary and continue the charade for months to try and muddy the waters around Biden, and try to paint it like all politicians are scummy like Trump...But, we'll see....
 
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silentkisser said:
Guess we'll see how this all plays out when these committees produce no evidence. I bet they'll do what McCarthy did for Hillary and continue the charade for months to try and muddy the waters around Biden, and try to paint it like all politicians are scummy like Trump...But, we'll see....
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There already is a lot of evidence against Joe. Thanks to the two whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Ziegler!!
 
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Valcazar said:
What path did they clear for his nomination in 2020?
There were 29 declared candidates and 11 of them made it to the formal beginning of the primary.

That's not a cleared field at all.

The party has very little ability to force someone out of the party or to force someone not to run.
Even less so if it doesn't involve a formal breach of some party rule concerning running.



Which is exactly my point.
Unless you are already strong enough to be pretty sure you can win, you aren't strong enough to challenge.

No one considers themselves to be in that position or they would do it.

This dovetails with "the party could clear the field".
The party can rally behind someone else, if that person is strong enough, and maybe push Biden out by showing it is useless.
They can't push him out first because they want someone else.



Yes.
A primary challenge would show he is weak.
That would damage him and the party.
Therefore anyone wanting to mount such a challenge must be strong enough that it is obvious they could win and obvious that their winning would improve the party's chances over all rather than make it look weak and fractious.

No one is that strong/Biden is not yet that weak.

Therefore no challenge.

A challenge at this stage would get crushed and the party can't force the vacancy and then open up a primary.
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That's the basis for our difference of opinion. I don't think someone like Gavin Newsom would be crushed by Biden in a primary battle. I also suspect he has donors queued up if and when the moment is right. If Biden wasn't displaying weakness, this would not even be a topic on social media. I don't remember anyone ever discussing a primary challenge to Obama or Trump.

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A primary challenge would show he is weak.
That would damage him and the party.
Therefore anyone wanting to mount such a challenge must be strong enough that it is obvious they could win and obvious that their winning would improve the party's chances over all rather than make it look weak and fractious.
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That's why I cited the political science academian regarding do primary challenges make an incumbent weak. I agree with him. Essentially, a credible primary challenge is not the cause of an incumbent's reelection loss, but rather the effect of an already weak incumbent prior to the primaries.

The Dems have set-up their own Catch-22. If no one runs against Biden, he is strong. Therefore, since no one is running against Biden that proves he is strong. We won't know if that thinking is correct until everything plays out.
 
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WyattEarp said:
Some of us have corporate and large institutional experience (not suggesting you don't). We know personally how weak "CEOs" can muddy the decision-making process and how different factions can take advantage pulling in different directions. There can also be a lack of accountability within the organization.

You might like what you see, but what we don't see is the concern.
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Well, that a whole big slice of "speculation pie", isn't it?
 
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