Sleep Problems

Couple of practices I have developed for improved sleep that are applicable to your situation Miss Croft:

Reduce light to absolute darkness.
Even the slightest light will trigger your brain to wake up

1. As it seems your awakening is due to light, considering investing in heavy, blackout (not light "filtering or room "darkening") curtains or best of all; "shades with side tracks" . I like the shades with side tracks as they block the light from creeping around the edges. Even that little bit of light, reflected around your walls and ceiling will signal to your brain... right through your eyelids... that it is time to go out and kill a dinosaur for breakfast.

I would further suggest that you get them in dark brown or black as the less light reflecting surfaces, the darker your room will be.

If this is not workable for you then consider contoured eye mask sleep shades. These are contoured to bulge out at your eyes so the fabric does not touch your eyes. I don't wear them all night but I will sometimes put these on when I wake up too early and want to go back to sleep for another hour or three. These are awesome for a siesta, airplane trips and extended role play! One tip is to find the smaller ones that don't cover too much of your face. They are inexpensive enough at amazon.ca that after reading some reviews, you can buy 2-3 different styles and see what fits you better. You can also use scissors to trim them to fit you perfectly.

2.0 Reduce sound as much as possible

If you can't eliminate it, then try various types of in-ear plugs. If you can get accustomed to wearing them regularly, you WILL have way better sleep.

A low level white noise sound generator can help mask any irregular road noise etc that gets into your bedroom. It is the irregular noise that will wake you.

3. Reduce water intake ahead of going to bed and pee before bed and ANY time you might wake up through the night.
We don't "need" 8 glasses a day and stopping drinking an hour or two before bed will help reduce the bladder's ability to wake us. There is no down side to this either. The longer duration your sleep, the more likely you are to experience deeper REM and have a more effective sleep.

4. Better living through DRUGS!!

Melatonin:
If you don't have any problems getting to sleep, then melatonin is not really of any benefit as it only signals the brain it is time to start preparing to go to sleep. It is not a "sleep hormone" and will not prolong sleep. It has a pharmacological half life of 30-50 minutes so even if you think it is helping you sleep longer, it is not this drug that is doing it.

Melatonin is good to re-set your circadian clock to an earlier time. It is not good to take it for extended periods as it will reduce the production of natural melatonin.

Finally, the lower does of melatonin, the more effective it is. 1/4 of a 5mg tablet is MORE than enough.


4. Sleeping Pills

Most benzodiazepine sleeping pills that will not leaving you groggy the next day will not help you sleep longer. They induce sleep but have short half lives. Same with the Z-class of sleeping pils. The exception is AMBIEN-ER (extended release). But is is frikkig expensive... like $5-6 each!

However, if you have a good doctor, he may prescribe you zopiclone which is a non-benzo (Z-class) hypnotic that you could take at your mid-sleep pee wake up that would help you sleep through the 6:00am wake up.
There IS a great, safe and long lasting OTC drug that will help prolong your sleep and without side effects into the next day.

Plain old Benadryl anti-histamine (Generic: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Diphenhydramine) causes "drowsiness" and is also sold directly as a night time sleep aid.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It has a half life of 8 hours so the effects are perfectly timed for sleep. It has a long history of long term daily use and safety profile and will give you the added benefit of stopping any sniffles or congestion a lot of people suffer from dust in their pillows, and mold spores distributed by the air conditioner.

Hope this helps!
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I also have no problem falling asleep, just staying asleep.

I haven't tried it yet but time-release melatonin might be worth a try as opposed to regular melatonin.
 
I also have no problem falling asleep, just staying asleep.

I haven't tried it yet but time-release melatonin might be worth a try as opposed to regular melatonin.

Read about melatonin in the link above and do your own research also.

Melatonin has no ability to prolong sleep. It's only function is to tell your brain that it is dark outside and time to start getting ready for sleep.

It has NO ability to prolong sleep and taking it after you have already fallen asleep can really screw up your brain's natural abilities with regards to sleep regulation.

Try benedryl 50mg and see how that helps. It is not strong, but just may be enough to help you break through that threshold.
 
I don't know if I would call it insomnia as I typically don't have a hard time falling asleep. But I find that, no matter what time I go to bed, I wake every morning around 5:30 or 6 a.m. Maybe it's a daylight thing? Anyone else experience this? It's new to me.


I don't know what to do with myself so early. End up walking the dog, doing laundry or hangin' here on Terb.
Waking up early is good for you. You live longer that way. I wake up every day at 4, go to bed at 10-11. Eventually, we'll all get enough sleep in the coffin. Enjoy it.
 
Couple of practices I have developed for improved sleep that are applicable to your situation Miss Croft:

Reduce light to absolute darkness.
Even the slightest light will trigger your brain to wake up

1. As it seems your awakening is due to light, considering investing in heavy, blackout (not light "filtering or room "darkening") curtains or best of all; "shades with side tracks" . I like the shades with side tracks as they block the light from creeping around the edges. Even that little bit of light, reflected around your walls and ceiling will signal to your brain... right through your eyelids... that it is time to go out and kill a dinosaur for breakfast.

I would further suggest that you get them in dark brown or black as the less light reflecting surfaces, the darker your room will be.

If this is not workable for you then consider contoured eye mask sleep shades. These are contoured to bulge out at your eyes so the fabric does not touch your eyes. I don't wear them all night but I will sometimes put these on when I wake up too early and want to go back to sleep for another hour or three. These are awesome for a siesta, airplane trips and extended role play! One tip is to find the smaller ones that don't cover too much of your face. They are inexpensive enough at amazon.ca that after reading some reviews, you can buy 2-3 different styles and see what fits you better. You can also use scissors to trim them to fit you perfectly.

2.0 Reduce sound as much as possible

If you can't eliminate it, then try various types of in-ear plugs. If you can get accustomed to wearing them regularly, you WILL have way better sleep.

A low level white noise sound generator can help mask any irregular road noise etc that gets into your bedroom. It is the irregular noise that will wake you.

3. Reduce water intake ahead of going to bed and pee before bed and ANY time you might wake up through the night.
We don't "need" 8 glasses a day and stopping drinking an hour or two before bed will help reduce the bladder's ability to wake us. There is no down side to this either. The longer duration your sleep, the more likely you are to experience deeper REM and have a more effective sleep.

4. Better living through DRUGS!!

Melatonin:
If you don't have any problems getting to sleep, then melatonin is not really of any benefit as it only signals the brain it is time to start preparing to go to sleep. It is not a "sleep hormone" and will not prolong sleep. It has a pharmacological half life of 30-50 minutes so even if you think it is helping you sleep longer, it is not this drug that is doing it.

Melatonin is good to re-set your circadian clock to an earlier time. It is not good to take it for extended periods as it will reduce the production of natural melatonin.

Finally, the lower does of melatonin, the more effective it is. 1/4 of a 5mg tablet is MORE than enough.


4. Sleeping Pills

Most benzodiazepine sleeping pills that will not leaving you groggy the next day will not help you sleep longer. They induce sleep but have short half lives. Same with the Z-class of sleeping pils. The exception is AMBIEN-ER (extended release). But is is frikkig expensive... like $5-6 each!

However, if you have a good doctor, he may prescribe you zopiclone which is a non-benzo (Z-class) hypnotic that you could take at your mid-sleep pee wake up that would help you sleep through the 6:00am wake up.
There IS a great, safe and long lasting OTC drug that will help prolong your sleep and without side effects into the next day.

Plain old Benadryl anti-histamine (Generic: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Diphenhydramine) causes "drowsiness" and is also sold directly as a night time sleep aid.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It has a half life of 8 hours so the effects are perfectly timed for sleep. It has a long history of long term daily use and safety profile and will give you the added benefit of stopping any sniffles or congestion a lot of people suffer from dust in their pillows, and mold spores distributed by the air conditioner.

Hope this helps!
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Some great info here, thanks! :)

As for the white noise, I always use a fan (even in the winter but then I turn it away from me) for the sound. People think I'm weird, LOL.

I have taken Benadryl at night occasionally for allergies and it would knock me out but found it made me feel very groggy in the morning.
 
Wow I wish I had your sleep problems try mine go to sleep around 11 and awake again at 2 or 3 o'clock ten in and out until I get up at 530 or 6. Ill trade you my sleep habits for yours any day
 
Wow I wish I had your sleep problems try mine go to sleep around 11 and awake again at 2 or 3 o'clock ten in and out until I get up at 530 or 6. Ill trade you my sleep habits for yours any day


Actually, yours sounds similar to mine. Not only do I wake early but I tend to also wake up a couple of times through the night. I can never seem to get into a good, deep sleep.
 
This time of year, the birds seem to start chirping at 5AM. I'm convinced that the city starts coming awake at 5:15-5:30. Truck, and bus noises. The general hum of traffic. Overhead flights. People on the street starting their cars, and slamming doors. The newspaper delivery guy who goes up the street with the windows down and the music on.

Big believer in the white noise idea to filter this stuff out. What I can't understand, when I'm stuck watching crappy TV and people are looking at houses, is that the SAY they want natural light in the bedroom. Why the hell is that? Really what you want is a dark, cave like place when you're sleeping. For the few times you're in the bedroom not sleeping but doing micro-surgeory you can use lamps.
 
This time of year, the birds seem to start chirping at 5AM. I'm convinced that the city starts coming awake at 5:15-5:30. Truck, and bus noises.


I think that's a big part of it - the early daylight, birds chirping early , and the bus starts to go down my street shortly before 6. Then I'm up! In a way I do enjoy it. I like sitting on my deck with a cup of tea early in the morning. :)
 
I totally get what you are saying. I have no problem falling asleep between 10-11 yet am fortunate because I do go into a very heavy sleep but invariably wake up at 4 a.m. I find there is a ton to do and i like playing scrabble with myself or reading a well written book. I find it to be bonus hours. sometimes I do need a nap in the afternoon though.
 
I totally get what you are saying. I have no problem falling asleep between 10-11 yet am fortunate because I do go into a very heavy sleep but invariably wake up at 4 a.m. I find there is a ton to do and i like playing scrabble with myself or reading a well written book. I find it to be bonus hours. sometimes I do need a nap in the afternoon though.


A nap, and a BJ in the afternoon. Sounds perfect. Problem is this damn job.
 
Read a book by Hal Elrod, The Miracle Morning. It might change your attitude/thoughts about waking at 5:00 or so. I used to be really ol'grumpy cat cause I was awake around 5 AM. Now I look at that as a bonus! Great to have a routine and get going on the day. Marla has the right idea. Hey Marla, ever played strip scrabble ;)
 
It has NO ability to prolong sleep and taking it after you have already fallen asleep can really screw up your brain's natural abilities with regards to sleep regulation.

Taking it after I've already fallen asleep would be a neat trick. I'll read the other stuff though
 
I usually don't go to bed until 4AM - or sometimes 6AM as my most awake productive time is late night. I just don't schedule any meetings before noon or so. However, if I have to be up early I get to bed earlier and no problem being wide awake when alarm goes off. However if don't get 7-8 hours may need a one sleep cycle power nap later for about 20 minutes.

However, I have had to use Zolpidem ER 12.5 mg for decades or I will never get to sleep for more than one sleep cycle. Have tried every other idea mentioned in this thread and nothing works other than my Zolpidem (generic Ambian). I have had a sleep study and sometimes put eltrodes on my head to monitor my sleep phases. My doc is fine with it and its one of the most commonly used drugs in the U.S. as he knows how important plenty of sleep is.

Side effects: There are some horror stories of folks winding up at an airport 1000 miles away and having no idea how they got there!

Different drugs affect different people in various ways. I have never had any side-effects other than when I first started taking it some amnesia but only not remembering what I did just before falling a sleep.

The odd thing which is mostly good, it doesn't actually make me tired. I feel wide awake but if I slant my body more than about 45 degress I am out like a light. Many years ago I was talking on the phone to my Toronto friend - my late night his just getting up with the 3-hour time difference - and was kind of relaxing on the couch and I fell asleep during the phone call!

There is also about a 30-90 minute window. Takes about 30 minutes to start effectiveness and sometimes I am so busy and productive (and not feeling tired) I go on beyond 90 minutes and then harder to get to sleep once I am horizontal as in a bed.

Once I had to get up early for a Court hearing of a local sexworker (Phoenix Goddess Temple case now in 4+ years in Court which I report on). I enjoy working late nights when most productive, took pill but waiting a long time.. When I went to bed I couldn't get to sleep. Finially in frustration took another pill (don't do this!) was alert about 4 hours later when alarm went off but believe I had some amnesia as I later didn't recall driving to the Court and some weird memory fragments of the hearing. I also take notes and they were fine.

Long ago when first started them also noted if I sent messages or typed things on computer while I thought I was fully alert, the next morning would have lots of typo errors - more than my usual bad grammer and spelling errors!. So I learned to catch up on TV, news shows, Internet etc for 30-60 minutes after taking pill but not do in serious work just unwind this way.

Other folks may have different effects. The oddest thing is the drug does not make me tired.. especially in my late night high productive times yet I go "out like a light" if get horizontal! No, haven't taken it yet its only 4:33 AM as I type this in Phoenix - back from my delightful Toronto trip of 12 days.
 
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I don't know if I would call it insomnia as I typically don't have a hard time falling asleep. But I find that, no matter what time I go to bed, I wake every morning around 5:30 or 6 a.m. Maybe it's a daylight thing? Anyone else experience this? It's new to me.


I don't know what to do with myself so early. End up walking the dog, doing laundry or hangin' here on Terb.

Do you live near train tracks with a scheduled train at that time or a highway that gets busy at that time? Or near a neighbour that gets picked up for work and the idiot ride sits in the driveway honking his horn?

Or sleep with a SO wHo gets up to pee at that time. It may be that you are being disturbed and not just waking up. How do you function when you wake up - soppy or alert? If you're still groggy then maybe something external is waking you up.
 
How do you function when you wake up - soppy or alert? If you're still groggy then maybe something external is waking you up.

I think it's mostly the early daylight and the birds chirping. I am not groggy - feel wide awake. :) I am taking some of the advice here and learning to enjoy it.