This is the step that I've started taking. But I have to admit, sometimes PMing the reviewer doesn't get you that far, since not everyone is collaborative.
But when some are, then it's pretty awesome of them.
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But when some are, then it's pretty awesome of them.
i never ask usually just go and what ever happens happens its fun that way i think
I've found that by and large, reviewers, (even ones I fight tooth-and-nail with constantly in the lounge), are complete mensches when it comes to discussing their reviews via PM. It's part of what makes TERB great.
edited to add: and I just noticed that wait for it's Shirley Temple-hockey-spanking scenario sounds like more fun than my vanilla fantasies. Call me, w-f-i. We'll do lunch.
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There is a way to handle the request for information, just as there is a way to ask it.
Men need to remember that while this may be a business to some it is still very intimate and personal. Treating a woman as if she does not rate high enough to be treated with a bit of tenderness and respect will be off putting. You can ask the same question with a bit of finesse and get the answers you are looking for.
Women need to remember that most of the men who are messaging you for the first time are nervous as heck, and it is not uncommon to see one stumble a bit with the way they ask for information. Sometimes they even do the same thing as you do. You've got your rates copied and ready to paste most of the time don't you. They have their wish list in the same format.
I am not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, or upset anyone. Just being matter of fact.
Additionally I often figure out whom I won't want to see by how bold they get when they start asking about additional services.
Men need to remember that while this may be a business to some it is still very intimate and personal. Treating a woman as if she does not rate high enough to be treated with a bit of tenderness and respect will be off putting. You can ask the same question with a bit of finesse and get the answers you are looking for.
Women need to remember that most of the men who are messaging you for the first time are nervous as heck, and it is not uncommon to see one stumble a bit with the way they ask for information. Sometimes they even do the same thing as you do. You've got your rates copied and ready to paste most of the time don't you. They have their wish list in the same format.
I am not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, or upset anyone. Just being matter of fact.
Additionally I often figure out whom I won't want to see by how bold they get when they start asking about additional services.
Why would you even say that? It's entirely the customer's risk so what do you care anyway??
That reply makes no sense at all. Conducting business in a friendly, personal & intimate way does not require handing over money blindly. Nothing else in life works that way.
Imagine being buying Phone or Automobile but not being able to ask about any specs or info other than the pictures on the website!
AmberRose: " Does this model come with Anti Lock Brakes & Traction Control?"
Salesman: " Uhh, well, it has brakes of some kind ... why don't you purchase the car, and next time it rains, slam on the brakes at 80km/h while changing lanes and then you'll find out! Besides there's more to a car than brakes & traction control. You might be surprised at how well you can maneuver without those things!!"
So to the ladies in this thread - are YOU as easy going & flexible with uncertainties if customer won't commit to your rates and instead suggests he should pay you what he thinks it was worth at the end of the appointment??
Thoughtful reply, Lily. Thanks. The last bit has me wondering though. What's a bigger red flag, someone stammering and so shy they may be a nutcase, or someone "too bold" as it were?
Hmmm it seems kind of weird that it's "frowned" upon for a customer to ask "what am I getting for this".
While I agree that a menu isn't the only thing in an encounter it is an important thing (to me anyway).
For me I'm a repeat customer. 95% of my visits are with ladies who I've seen before. The last 5% is with ladies who have detailed reviews.
In a nutshell both sides of the equation here are frustrated by Bill C-36!
I used to openly list my services, but no longer do due to the bill. Sorry, but I'm not risking getting in trouble with the law over a maybe client, especially given the shenanigans of late (e.g. an inordinate amount of cancellations, etc). I even went so far as to publicly announce in a thread, while still a lady in blue, that although I would no longer be sharing details about specific services (e.g. acronyms) after the bill took effect, that everything would remain the same service wise, putting a link to my then Services pg. in the hopes that members would give it a perusal. Alas, given that so few take the time to read our well thought out sites anyway, it comes as no surprise to me that my attemt to give members the heads up per services rendered post Bill C-36 went unnoticed.
Titalian and others here are correct in that the bill makes more work on your part necessary. Gents, come on, is it really so hard to figure out services when a particular lady is mentioned in thread after thread about a particular service (e.g. Who performs great x, y or z?)? We're not trying to be difficult for the sake of being difficult, we're simply trying to protect ourselves in much the same way you are. By the way, even when I had a menu listed, text messages from unknowns simply stating, "Do you offer _ _ _ _?", without even a hello or anything else was considered rude and offensive by me.
I believe that in time, if all goes well, things will relax on both sides of the fence. In the meantime, let's try to benefit each other as much as we can given the constraints of this bill, instead of finger pointing and blaming, which is counterproductive behaviour.
I used to openly list my services, but no longer do due to the bill. Sorry, but I'm not risking getting in trouble with the law over a maybe client, especially given the shenanigans of late (e.g. an inordinate amount of cancellations, etc). I even went so far as to publicly announce in a thread, while still a lady in blue, that although I would no longer be sharing details about specific services (e.g. acronyms) after the bill took effect, that everything would remain the same service wise, putting a link to my then Services pg. in the hopes that members would give it a perusal. Alas, given that so few take the time to read our well thought out sites anyway, it comes as no surprise to me that my attemt to give members the heads up per services rendered post Bill C-36 went unnoticed.
Titalian and others here are correct in that the bill makes more work on your part necessary. Gents, come on, is it really so hard to figure out services when a particular lady is mentioned in thread after thread about a particular service (e.g. Who performs great x, y or z?)? We're not trying to be difficult for the sake of being difficult, we're simply trying to protect ourselves in much the same way you are. By the way, even when I had a menu listed, text messages from unknowns simply stating, "Do you offer _ _ _ _?", without even a hello or anything else was considered rude and offensive by me.
I believe that in time, if all goes well, things will relax on both sides of the fence. In the meantime, let's try to benefit each other as much as we can given the constraints of this bill, instead of finger pointing and blaming, which is counterproductive behaviour.
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Once in a while I like to visit the Greek isles which on the ladies part requires extra preparations at an extra cost. How do I go about requesting this if I a lady won't answer such an inquiry. Do I go with the flow and just try to sneak in the backdoor during the session? So for now I visit my regular ladies. For gentleman who have the same proclivity, I'd really like to know how you go about this with a new provider if she prefers not to answer the initial inquiry. Advice from the ladies appreciated also.
I can only speak for myself here Kifarurx, but I'm more nervous putting anything in writing (e.g. email, text message, etc.) than I am discussing it via a brief call.
Having said that, a polite approach to this, involving much tact is crucial. I won't respond positively to someone calling me asking about a particular service right out of the gate, especially when after some discussion I discover that they are only 26, not even within my acceptable age bracket. I also won't discuss how restrictive or non restrictive my services are with a client that has already cancelled on me twice, without having ever seen me, especially when they've never asked me this in their earlier chats with me, begging the question, "Why now?".
I think that letting a lady know up front that you are aware of the preparation needed for your desired service, without going into unnecessary detail and that you realize the risk involved in her answering your request but that you truly are quite serious about it, should hopefully put her a little more at ease. If she responds with, "Sorry, I can't answer that due to Bill C-36!", you thank her for her time and move on. If she responds with, "Alright, shoot.", you tell her how much you love Greece. As they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Also, I find that honey usually gets the bee.
Additionally, giving out your handle, and I know you guys don't like doing this, might be beneficial as well. I still don't ask for it but do appreciate when it's volunteered, which can only work in your favour if I recognize it as being a productive board member.
Just my thoughts.
Well, if it offends certain providers so much as to answer such basic questions as to services that she's open to the solution is simple.....
Implement a "satisfaction guaranteed or money refunded" policy. It worked for old Timothy E. Guy wants "dressing up like Shirley Temple and being spanked with a hockey stick" and you refuse to deliver, you will refund his cash.
Works for me and avoids such unnecessary and awkward discussions as to a scope of service.
No???
Implement a "satisfaction guaranteed or money refunded" policy. It worked for old Timothy E. Guy wants "dressing up like Shirley Temple and being spanked with a hockey stick" and you refuse to deliver, you will refund his cash.
Works for me and avoids such unnecessary and awkward discussions as to a scope of service.
No???
Get over yourselves ladies,, for the prices that are being paid for "your time" is not nothing,,
U buy a car u choose the options u want , u order a pizza u get toppings ,, u see a service provider u want to know what
Are her restrictions and what u will be getting for your hard earned money,, I'm sorry the new law or not I want to know , I am not comfortable going into a session with someone I haven't seen and just see what happens,, now if the girl is well reviewed here we should do our homework and have some idea what is up,, but just like we are just a client and a way for u ladies to make a living and " certainly not" your boyfriends,, u are a SERVICE provider,, and u provide a service,, nothing more nothing less ,, so why the hell wouldn't a guy want to know what to expect from u ?? Some of the ladies are now charging $350 to $400 for an hour on the top end of the scale ,, like hell I'm not gonna wanna know what is gonna be involved,
Or maybe we should just hand over our money hoping u give us a good time !! Lol
U buy a car u choose the options u want , u order a pizza u get toppings ,, u see a service provider u want to know what
Are her restrictions and what u will be getting for your hard earned money,, I'm sorry the new law or not I want to know , I am not comfortable going into a session with someone I haven't seen and just see what happens,, now if the girl is well reviewed here we should do our homework and have some idea what is up,, but just like we are just a client and a way for u ladies to make a living and " certainly not" your boyfriends,, u are a SERVICE provider,, and u provide a service,, nothing more nothing less ,, so why the hell wouldn't a guy want to know what to expect from u ?? Some of the ladies are now charging $350 to $400 for an hour on the top end of the scale ,, like hell I'm not gonna wanna know what is gonna be involved,
Or maybe we should just hand over our money hoping u give us a good time !! Lol
First of all these services you mention are not illegal, poor analogy. Secondly besides the reviews you do have the option of asking these question via PM which would undoubtedly expose your handle.
Keep in mind gentleman, these ladies are protecting you from prosecution, they have much less to lose than you do.
I think his frustration is that none do anymore.
For me, I don't really require a menu - I have one strict requirement and it's not a banned substance, so to speak. Maybe its just because I ask about one specific thing that I've never run into an issue with offending an SP (in that way at least
).I'm surprised that the more experienced SPs deal with this though. Like, if you've been around 3+ years and have reviews from back in the long, long ago (like 6 weeks ago), chances are most questions have been answered. Similarly, with most reputable agencies regardless of when the girl in question started working, you have a pretty good idea of what to expect.
The one area that seems to be the most asked about, both in terms of posts and pms, IME, is the whole cof/cim thing. I don't care so I don't ask, but its gotta be weird getting a text from a stranger like "nice piczz...u r sexy. can i cum on ur face? u shallow (he meant swallow...)".
Then again, i guess if that's a session deal breaker, you do need to know.
My My, not trying to take away from your broad vocabulary and outstanding skills with diction and syntax, it also helps when you are an established provider who id well known for her services. not all ladies are in that position. Remember that imitation is the highest form of flattery
