Simping and the Sexual Marketplace

rhuarc29

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I'm surprised this isn't being talked about more, because it's a huge deal. The online marketplace for onlyfans, camgirls, and other forms of virtual girlfriends is gigantic, and I personally think it's fucking up relationships. It's one thing to get sexual satisfaction from a provider, but for many it's different. For many, they're desperate to have a woman shine some sliver of attention their way, and they're willing to bankrupt themselves to do it. It sets off endorphins to have this hot girl, who obviously has the attention of many, many men, responding to your messages, and especially your tips. The problem with that is....love should never be a commodity. And when it becomes so, it's usually poisonous.

For the men, they stop trying in real life because it's easier to just whip out a credit card and get instant gratification online. It becomes an addiction, and they simply can't get off the hamster wheel. They become ever more desperate to get the attention of the object of their desire. So not only do they start throwing wads of cash her way in a hopeless attempt to stand out in the crowd, but they start bowing and scrapping and white knighting in the cringiest ways imaginable. And they come to believe this is a normal relationship. That some kind of connection actually exists both ways between them and the provider. Some eventually get to the point where they snap because the relationship isn't going further, and then you get one more incel to add to society.

For the women, they're making heaps of cash preying off vulnerable men. They're also getting heaps of attention lavished on them from these same desperate men, which is something that would go to anyone's head. It's a powerful allure for women, because not only is it incredibly lucrative, allowing them to be independent and live a lifestyle they always dreamed of, but it strokes their ego to the point where they have an inflated sense of self. That last one isn't their fault; I mean, if I was being told over and over again by thousands of people how fantastic I am, it'd go to my head too. This inevitably fucks with their own personal relationships, because it tends to raise their standards dramatically, and besides, who needs a man when she's got her hoards of admirers?

These are generalizations of course, but I see a lot of both, and neither are healthy. It's another casualty of the digital age. I fear for a society where so much of the relationship between men and women becomes a commodity. Sex is one thing. Emotional connection another, specifically when it's not reciprocated.
 

Butler1000

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Its just another term for guys who have been friendzoned and have no clue thats where they are. Ciupled with a new generation raised more online in social interaction. Im betting many of them are also gamers more used to the headset and video as a firm of social interaction.
 

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Is it an addiction though, I truly enjoy this hobby and am content of where I am in my life. I hobby once a month and enjoy the company of a beautiful SP and in that hour I am fulfilled immensely until the next month. Don't want a relationship and enjoy my alone time all the time. Have a healthy network of single and married friends and we enjoy each other companies and if I am lucky to hook up at a party - well then that's just extra gravy on my plate :ROFLMAO: . I have nieces and nephews that I adore and then go home and have a wonderful glass of red and call it a night. All in all - a healthy does of a special SP once a month has done me well.
 

NotADcotor

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I wonder how many guys call others simps but gladly pay the full cost of a civie date. Who don't see it as a bullshit expectation from another time but think it is all right and proper.
Because if you are one of those you are to some extent a simp in denial.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Line from the Netflix series Yellowstone, with Kevin Costner. "There are two types of people in this world. Sharks and minnows. If you don't know which one you are, you're a minnow"
 

NotADcotor

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That’s not what simping is.
But isn't it... really when you look at it.

Spend time with me and I will pay you with goods and services. Sure it has a better [but not 100%] chance of panning out well verses most Simping but it still devalues your existence compared to the female in question. Not much difference than helping a girl move with the other orbiters or taking care of her rat dog, or selling all of your collectables to give to her to impress her. Still exchanging goods and services in the hope of impressing her. Why isn't she paying in, is she not interested in you at all, are you dog shit?

If I asked you to hang out with me and told you I was going to pay for everything [after saying no homo and pointing to my crotch to show that there are no "hard" feelings] would you not consider me to be a pathetic and desperate loser? [and probably question my orientation if I didn't say no homo]

Paying the bills on the date is Simping, it just has the time stamp of social acceptability. It's much like how newer cults like Scientology and Momonism sound absolutely bad shit crazy but they are not all that much were than the other big name middle east religions. Just those have the "legitimacy of time"

At least with sex work it is an above board financial transaction and everyone [hopefully] knows what is going on and the limits therein.
 

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I'm surprised this isn't being talked about more, because it's a huge deal. The online marketplace for onlyfans, camgirls, and other forms of virtual girlfriends is gigantic, and I personally think it's fucking up relationships. It's one thing to get sexual satisfaction from a provider, but for many it's different. For many, they're desperate to have a woman shine some sliver of attention their way, and they're willing to bankrupt themselves to do it. It sets off endorphins to have this hot girl, who obviously has the attention of many, many men, responding to your messages, and especially your tips. The problem with that is....love should never be a commodity. And when it becomes so, it's usually poisonous.

For the men, they stop trying in real life because it's easier to just whip out a credit card and get instant gratification online. It becomes an addiction, and they simply can't get off the hamster wheel. They become ever more desperate to get the attention of the object of their desire. So not only do they start throwing wads of cash her way in a hopeless attempt to stand out in the crowd, but they start bowing and scrapping and white knighting in the cringiest ways imaginable. And they come to believe this is a normal relationship. That some kind of connection actually exists both ways between them and the provider. Some eventually get to the point where they snap because the relationship isn't going further, and then you get one more incel to add to society.

For the women, they're making heaps of cash preying off vulnerable men. They're also getting heaps of attention lavished on them from these same desperate men, which is something that would go to anyone's head. It's a powerful allure for women, because not only is it incredibly lucrative, allowing them to be independent and live a lifestyle they always dreamed of, but it strokes their ego to the point where they have an inflated sense of self. That last one isn't their fault; I mean, if I was being told over and over again by thousands of people how fantastic I am, it'd go to my head too. This inevitably fucks with their own personal relationships, because it tends to raise their standards dramatically, and besides, who needs a man when she's got her hoards of admirers?

These are generalizations of course, but I see a lot of both, and neither are healthy. It's another casualty of the digital age. I fear for a society where so much of the relationship between men and women becomes a commodity. Sex is one thing. Emotional connection another, specifically when it's not reciprocated.
Great insights here. I blame parents and family for this for conditioning kids to these verbal praises of validation patterns and encouragement to live in delusion and what you should be based on how they and society see you and not at what you are and can be based on your actual potential and talent.

Also other great points here and relevance.

Sometimes we fail to see just how toxic and destructive these types of attitudes can be such as simping and white knighting that it contributes to an even bigger societal problem.
 

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That’s not what simping is.
I agree paying for it is the opposite and keeps boundaries and expectations in check. No feelings and favours involved. Pick the service, pay the price, close the door and forget all about it until the next need arises for these professional services.
 
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