Shutdowns saved young people from world's leading cause of death

[lenny2]

"To address data gaps and provide insight into public safety during the COVID-19 pandemic, a selection of police services in Canada are reporting information on specific types of crime and calls for service from March to December 2020. Initial results found that the selected police services reported 16% fewer criminal incidents during the first four months of the pandemic (March to June) compared with the same months in 2019. In contrast, calls to police for service were up 7%, particularly calls to conduct wellness checks and calls to attend domestic disturbances. For more information, see the "Police-reported crime incidents down during the early months of the pandemic, while domestic disturbance calls increase" report in The Daily."

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/201029/dq201029a-eng.htm?indid=4751-1&indgeo=0

 

[lenny2]

Another teen .... a young man (16) took his own life & leaving a note saying he couldn't take it anymore & that he felt isolated & depressed after months of Covid lock downs & social distancing . The young man from brunswick , Maine is just one of several teens nationwide who have committed suicide for the same reasons

X-FILES won't mention stuff like this when he tells us how great the lock downs are for us

"one of several teens nationwide" = Statistically insignificant, so hardly worth mentioning in the discussion re 10's of millions dying if there were not extreme safety measures (lockdowns, etc) employed. And who can say they wouldn't have committed this sin of suicide anyway if there were not lockdowns. Furthermore, re "he felt socially isolated", in this day of internet, video chat, cell phones, etc? He made his own free will choice in a God rejecting society that should have impressed upon him that such an action is wrong & immoral. So blame him & a God rejecting society.

What is obviously clear is due to lockdowns:

1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.

 

[lenny2]

What is obviously clear is due to lockdowns:


2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously

Did you know 34,200 cases of flu related deaths happened in Canada last year? You did nothing. You walked around freely. https://ipac-canada.org/influenza-resources.php

There are 13,501 deaths from covid in 2020 soo far. You run and hide behind a mask.

Last year there were no lockdowns & other extreme measures. If there were flu deaths might have been a few hundred.

Without extreme safety measures this year, covid deaths in Canada would be more like 135,000. About 100,000 more than flu seasons.

" “To date this season, 19 influenza detections have been reported, which is significantly lower than the past six seasons where an average of 1,115 influenza detections were reported between weeks 35-46 (October to November)”, according to the latest FluWatch report."

"... Seasonal influenza circulation has remained low in Canada, and globally, during 2020."

Fewer flu cases reported in Canada despite testing increase

A public health study reveals fewer Canadians have contracted the flu this year compared to previous seasons.

www.ctvnews.ca

"By the way, the facts about COVID-19 vs Flue in the US - the lies Trump, Pense (saying flu kills 100k a year) and his uneducated masses is promoting:
Flu Deaths by season:
2015-2016 23,000
2016-2017 38.000
2017-2018 61,000
2018-2019 34,000
2019-2020 22,000
vs.
COVID-19 deaths year-to-date 2020 210,000 and rapidly rising.

Source: CDC and John Hopkins University
The fact-based world not the Trump alternative facts fantasyland.

 

[lenny2]

SHOW me ANYWHERE about this MASSIVE 20% DECREASE in crime that @lenny2 and you guys keep claiming how lock down "saved" lives and "reduced" crime

What i actually claimed is during the lockdowns "street crime" (any non domestic crime) was probably down.

"To address data gaps and provide insight into public safety during the COVID-19 pandemic, a selection of police services in Canada are reporting information on specific types of crime and calls for service from March to December 2020. Initial results found that the selected police services reported 16% fewer criminal incidents during the first four months of the pandemic (March to June) compared with the same months in 2019. In contrast, calls to police for service were up 7%, particularly calls to conduct wellness checks and calls to attend domestic disturbances. For more information, see the "Police-reported crime incidents down during the early months of the pandemic, while domestic disturbance calls increase" report in The Daily."

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/201029/dq201029a-eng.htm?indid=4751-1&indgeo=0

Peel Police website shows (as an example) fatalities from car crashes DOUBLED in 2020 vs 2019
Auto Theft and Theft from Auto are way up (15% increase)
Mischief and Murder are flat

Car crashes are not a crime. And weren't you already corrected about car crashes?

Your above alleged cherry picked info leaves out many categories of crimes & is just cherry picking one teensy little area, not telling us anything about global "street crime" numbers during the lockdowns.

Toronto Police website shows (as example) Homicides are Up 2%
Auto Theft is Up 7%
Shootings are flat
Assault on cops 39%

Vast majority of crimes have higher percentages in 2020 and you can see this on any website

Even Vancouver as example
36% increase in murders
14% inc assault
5% family rape
138% hate crimes
18% break & enter
39% arson (go BLM!)
47% assault on cops

"Broadly, reported crime is down slightly, seeming to show that some thieves are following public health advice like the rest of us, and staying home."

Downtown core sees biggest crime changes after COVID-19: Vancouver data

As the COVID-19 pandemic changes our economy, it's also changing the way thieves do business too, according to a CTV News analysis of Vancouver crime data.

bc.ctvnews.ca

Again the above cherry picked alleged stats you posted leave out many categories of crimes & is just cherry picking tiny little areas, not telling us anything about global "street crime" numbers during the lockdowns.

Furthermore it does not breakdown the info into "street crime" & "domestic crime". Some categories you list are obviously in one or the other category, but some ae not. A homicide, for example, can be domestic & not a "street crime".

 

[lenny2]

"one of several teens nationwide" = Statistically insignificant, so hardly worth mentioning in the discussion re 10's of millions dying if there were not extreme safety measures (lockdowns, etc) employed. And who can say they wouldn't have committed this sin of suicide anyway if there were not lockdowns. Furthermore, re "he felt socially isolated", in this day of internet, video chat, cell phones, etc? He made his own free will choice in a God rejecting society that should have impressed upon him that such an action is wrong & immoral. So blame him & a God rejecting society.

What is obviously clear is due to lockdowns:

1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637

I don't get into any of these discussions because everyone has their own beliefs but for you to make the above statement about ANY teen suicide is shameful. These teens are not mentally capable of understanding what is going on with all that is happening around them.
ALL doctors have said that people do not reach their full brain type function until they are around 22-24 yrs old.
This teen was 16 !!!

A 16 year old is capable of knowing that things like murder, theft & suicide are sins, wrong & selfish decisions. He is also capable of reaching out for help from other people & God. Where i live a 16 year old can even get a drivers license, have sex & drink alcohol.

"The Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA) is the federal law that governs Canada's youth justice system. It applies to youth aged 12 to 17 who get into trouble with the law. The YCJA recognizes that young persons must be held accountable for criminal acts, although not in the same way or to the same extent as adults."

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/just/11.html

And you say he is "statistically insignificant". Really ??? I coach these kids and YOU HAVE NO CLUE what they are going thru mentally right now. Their parents are having issues understanding what to do and because a 16 yr old can't understand, he is "statistically insignificant"?

Evidently you don't understand the meaning of "statistically insignificant". Anything that is 1 in 20,000,000 is "statistically insignificant". Get it now?

 

[lenny2]

"Global Warming activists now waking up to planet benefits from shutdown and will have Dems supporting a long as possible shutdown."

 

[lenny2]

"... studies that have determined that lockdowns potentially have saved millions of lives..."

Fact check: Studies show COVID-19 lockdowns have saved lives

As many states enter a new wave of more stringent measures to limit the spread of COVID-19, users on social media have been sharing posts that question the purpose of so called “lockdowns”. Some posts falsely claim that these measures “don’t save lives”. This article examines...

www.reuters.com

 

[lenny2]

Coronavirus: Lockdowns in Europe saved millions of lives

The researchers say the death toll would have been "huge" without a lockdown.

www.bbc.com

 

[lenny2]

"Cleaner air during pandemic lockdowns shows what's possible, say researchers"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/air-pollution-covid-1.5948200

 

[redshank]

 

[lenny2]

Counting the Lives Saved by Lockdowns—and Lost to Slow Action

Social distancing measures prevented millions of COVID-19–related deaths around the world, according to a handful of studies, but it's hard to quantify the effects with certainty.

www.the-scientist.com

 

[lenny2]

"He said that data from a recent study by the University in Bologna has shown that the most stringent lockdown measures, refered to as "the red zones" in Italy do work -- leading to as much as 91% drop in number of Covid-related deaths."

Europe has missed its chance to stop the third wave. The US could be next

Europe appears to have missed its chance to stop the third wave of the coronavirus epidemic before it got out of control. Now, it's paying a high price for it, with new harsh lockdowns being imposed across the continent.

www.cnn.com

 

[PeteOsborne]

Oh just wait
Mental Health is gonna wreck havoc with suicides and domestic issues

Why do you keep bringing up an increase in suicides as a response.
Is it because numerous public figures have claimed a link between public-health restrictions and increased suicide rates, without evidence to back it up.
Data shows and has been showing this isn't correct.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...askatchewan-canada-2020-no-increase-1.5902908
" Widespread assumptions that suicide rates would increase during the pandemic are not supported by the growing amount of evidence coming out of Canadian provinces and other jurisdictions around the world, say experts who study the topic. "
Based on preliminary data from 2019 and 2020.

 

[lenny2]

"Many assumed suicides would spike in 2020. So far, the data tells a different story"

 

[lenny2]

The average age of covid deaths are over 80+ with chronic pre existing conditions most icu patients are obese and overweight locking down healthy people cannot stop viruses.

Actually:

"While this averages out to be about 16 years per death, years of life lost (YLL) were distributed unevenly across age groups. People between 55 and 75 years bore 44.9% of YLL, those younger than 55 bore 30.2%, and those older than 75 bore 25%. The average age of death was 72.8 years, but the researchers note that in higher income countries, more COVID deaths were in older groups compared with low- and middle-income countries, where more deaths were concentrated around those 55 or younger."

COVID-19 Scan for Feb 19, 2021

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Is a wise old 90 year olds' brain and life worth more than a young covidiot's life. Absolutely!

LOL.

are obese and overweight

So most Americans, eh ;

locking down healthy people cannot stop viruses.

Locking down all unhealthy and healthy - yet infected with covid - people in quarantines for 2 weeks would have all but ended the pandemic a year ago.

Why do you think infected people come out of quarantines uninfected? Isolation kills the virus, because it can't "be fruitful and multiply" under such circumstances.

It's like sticking you in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on a raft alone with no food or water for 2 weeks. You'ld die. And be unable to copulate to multiply. Likewise also with the covid virus in quarantine.

 

[richaceg]

We should lockdown for the whole year to save even more lives from motor vehicle accident...is that what you want OP?

 

[lenny2]

We should lockdown for the whole year to save even more lives from motor vehicle accident...is that what you want OP?

Already addressed earlier in the thread.

 

[lenny2]

"Many assumed suicides would spike in 2020. So far, the data tells a different story"

Why Suicides Decreased During COVID-19 Pandemic

Experts say people tend to be more open about their feelings and more supportive of each other during times of crisis.

www.healthline.com

 

[lenny2]

 

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