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Should Iran be Allowed to Build Nuclear Weapons?

papasmerf

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*d* said:
I don't think a country's position of having nukes outside of the NPT has anything to do with anti-semitism.
So your being anti-semitic is just a bonus?
 

*d*

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papasmerf said:
So your being anti-semitic is just a bonus?
And that was just plain insulting with no basis in fact.
 
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*d* said:
And that was just plain insulting with no bases of fact.
Did you mean BASIS in fact? What are 'bases of fact?'

I assume your lack of correct grammer and spelling have nothing to do with your anti-semitism, although lack of education could explain both.
(this is a joke, don't respond)
 

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*d* said:
And that was just plain insulting with no bases of fact.
That's, no basis in fact. Still I've got to agree with *d*, papasmerf how do you make the reach from his original comment that he is anti-semitic?
 

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Did you mean BASIS in fact? What are 'bases of fact?'

I assume your lack of correct grammer and spelling have nothing to do with your anti-semitism, although lack of education could explain both.
(this is a joke, don't respond)
Grammar.
 

papasmerf

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Asterix said:
That's, no basis in fact. Still I've got to agree with *d*, papasmerf how do you make the reach from his original comment that he is anti-semitic?

You are right I might have jumped to a conclusion and I offer *d* my humble apolgies and ask forgiveness.
 

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*d* said:
Should Israel be allowed to build nuclear weapons? No wait, Israel already has --it's Iran that hasn't.
Israel didn't sign the NPT did they?

OTB
 

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Is it worse for a country not to sign the NPT and develop nuclear weapons or to sign the NPT, then later renege or repudiate the NPT and build nuclear weapons?
 

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red said:
Is it worse for a country not to sign the NPT and develop nuclear weapons or to sign the NPT, then later renege or repudiate the NPT and build nuclear weapons?
I guess it's the same in the end but it is worse to pretend you're not developing the weapons, stay in the NPT and develop them anyway - that is the Iran situation (at least if you ask the US, Germany, UK, France and possibly Russia).

OTB
 

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Guy Lafleuer said:
I think every country in the world should have nuclear strike capability. It worked during the Cold War. As twisted as the thought is the best defense is a good offense. And although the US and Russians had hundreds of nuclear weapons during the Cold War, no nuclear bombs got dropped. I find it ironic that we got to the point that nuclear deterence is your only real defense agaisnt marauding armies. But it worked. So in order to make the world a safer place, let's all lobby for a worldwide nuclear proliferation.

Guy

As stupid post as i have read. You may hate Bush but would you really let Idi Amin ever be in a position to have his finger on the button!

AS long as their are people who put power, ideology, wealth, religion, their own sociopathic view of themselves as gods or whatever out their, poliferation is a bad thing. Hate Bush all you want, but the easy way to have crushed him - and for those of you who think all he wanted was oil - get oil, was to return Baghdad to the desert.
 

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islandboy said:
As stupid post as i have read. You may hate Bush but would you really let Idi Amin ever be in a position to have his finger on the button!

AS long as their are people who put power, ideology, wealth, religion, their own sociopathic view of themselves as gods or whatever out their, poliferation is a bad thing. Hate Bush all you want, but the easy way to have crushed him - and for those of you who think all he wanted was oil - get oil, was to return Baghdad to the desert.

Huh? what did guy lafleur say about Bush? Idi Amin has been dead for sometime so I assume you are using him as an example.
 

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red said:
Or is none of our business? If we say that Iran cannot have these weapons, what is the basis?
Even with the NPT, we (U.S.and others) are only looking out for our best interests, and most likely Israel's. We really have no right to tell them what they can do. Our only right to invoke our reasoning is justified by our sanctimonious might and the fact that they are more-or-less perceived to be an easy target.


And no, I am not anti-Semitic, liberal, anti-Bush,...etc. I am just a guy who reads a bit, listens a bit, and has a bit of time to post his thoughts.
 
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onthebottom said:
I guess it's the same in the end but it is worse to pretend you're not developing the weapons, stay in the NPT and develop them anyway - that is the Iran situation (at least if you ask the US, Germany, UK, France and possibly Russia).

OTB
Only the IAEA is unbiased enough to see if Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Country opinions are always influenced too much by politics.
 

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papasmerf said:
You are right I might have jumped to a conclusion and I offer *d* my humble apolgies and ask forgiveness.
No sweat papa.
Oh --and the stupid grammar mistake I made is corrected.
 

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I don't see many quotes from Israelis threatening to turn bodies of water red with muslim blood. Remember, Israelis are rational. MAD only works when both sides are rational. But when one of the sides welcomes death, then nuclear war will actually happen. That's why Iran having the bomb is a really, really bad idea, unless you want your kids vaporized.

*d* said:
Should Israel be allowed to build nuclear weapons? No wait, Israel already has --it's Iran that hasn't.
 
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Rationality only counts so much when looking at state actions because they depend on such a wide variety of inputs that can change depending on the exact situation.

Plus, I don't see the actions of Israel as a state being overwhelmingly more rational than the actions of Iran as a state.
 

*d*

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Fritz96 said:
Of course that was a typo, and you meant the opposite...
No. I think paranoia is getting the best of everyone thanks to US propaganda. The IAEA says there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program and that's good enough for me.
 

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Home produced oil is cheep and efficient to use in producing electricity. Nuclear power is expensive to build and maintain safely and fuel is difficult to obtain. Iran can easily find itself under a boycott for nuclear fuel as easily as OPEC can impose one on oil.

Under the idea that necessity is the mother of invention, Iran's only "necessity" is to become the power player in the region.
 
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