Should have spent my money on an SP instead of a date.

[waynward]

So I thought I'd share a funny dating story of the modern world. The moral of the story, I would rather spend my moneys on SPs than a date (sometimes). Better Sex and more to the point.

*Pre-lude

So a few weeks ago before travelling to out of town, I'm at a bar with some friends. I see this cute Korean girl I'm eyeing her in the night. I love K-girls and their my SPs of choice. Those angular eyes, olive skin and silky hair just drives me crazy. She is with a friend and they are moving out and about the bar and I'm busy talking to other women and my friends. At the end of the night near last call my friends get ready to leave. I have to make one stop to the washroom. I see the Korean girl and think might as well approached her now as she is finally stationary. I compliment her telling her I was on my way out but I had to tell her that she just looked stunning. She beams and just starts vibing with me and eating up everything I'm saying. We are having a bit of back and forth conversation. Eventually tell I get gotta going actually go to the washroom and then find my friends. We trade numbers and I head off to the washroom.

In the washroom I'm calling texting my friends and they're saying their pretty much ready to go. So as I'm thinking, hmmm maybe hang out with that girl I just met since we seem to have a good vibe going. I come out of the wahroom and the friend she was wish says to me "Hey did my friend find you? She was looking for you?". Then I see the girl K-girl that I originally was talking with coming toward me from the direction of the washroom, looks like she was indeed looking for me. She says that she wanted to make sure I got her number right, because when I called it (Standard way people trade numbers, they punch in their number in your phone and you call it so they have your number) didn't seem to be received on her phone. Anyhow we take care of that and I ask her and her friend want to go for some food.

We head out together and we lock up hand in hand. At the restaurant she is snuggling up and getting cozy with me. I'm talking with her friend mainly so she doesn't feel like a third wheel. After eating we drop off her friend who lives in the area. And start walking back to my place. Along the way we're making out heavily and quiet a few interludes. At the end of the night I end up dropping her off at her home. She says to me "I hope you don't forget me" since I'm leaving the next day to travel out of town across the border.

While travelling were texting (Whatsapps) every day or two chatting with each other. She is usually quick to respond and responsive. When I get back we set a Date to go out.

* The Date

Coordinating she tells me she has a work function and can meet after a certain time. I end up telling her to meet me at a street corner (downtown) close to that function. Because I'm thinking she might not want others to see who she is dating. Then the day of, she text me if we can meet earlier because she doesn't look like she is going to that work function. I ask her where her work is and she tells me. I say lets meet up at so and so street corner. I don't hear back in response to that recommendation of a street corner. But I assume it's on as she has otherwise never ignored text at this point.

Time shows up and I go to the street corner she is not there. I text her and she replies with a "What? How come? I didn't agree to meet you at XXX and XX. And I didn't see any further messagse. So I thought it's not going to happen.". I'm like Okkkayyy...So I call her up trying to figure what's up. She starts going off on how she doesn't meet people on the street etc etc. End of the day I'm like, hey we set this night to hang out so let's do it and we'll talk it out. She's at home up at the Yonge and Sheppard area (Koreans at Yonge and sheppard...no way ) so its a quick subway ride down.

I head down to her place, she looks dressed up and looking fine and obviously was ready for a date. But she comes out looking all with a WTF look on her face. No necessarily angry, but the same face I had when she wasn't there and I was like Okkkay. We start walking and talking, she is trying to articulate how she doesn't meet people on the street. I'm looking in her the eye and smiling and like "I'm not so sure what you're saying". She babbling that I can't make logical sense of, eventually alludes its okay for friends to meet that way but not a date. I'm thinking to myself, hmmmm. Been quiete a few dates like that since its downtown and summertime we meet at a corner and and figure a place to go. Actually my last 2 dates were like that and went well where we met somewhere, took a walk on the lake, went for dinner and headed back to my place. For the most part I just listen and trying to hear what she is saying.

End of the day, seems like the synopsis of what she is saying was she didn't feel that was making any effort. She seems to cool down a bit for dinner and some drinks. But still this leaves a bad start to the date. She starts insinuating how guys are hitting on her on all the time. And when she saw that message about proposing to meet on the street she almost deleted my number. She then tells me a story about how the friend I met of hers that night at the bar how they had a fall out.

I'm thinking to myself...this bitch is crazy. Although she is not terrible and still touchy feely with me during the date, she definetely seems regressed from when I first met her and not as warm. So originally thinking when I first met her this chick loved me from the start. Now I'm wondering if she even likes me. I'm thinking is this a Korean girl thing where she wants to be treated like a total princess? Or she just friggin psycho or was I being insensitive. Out of the asian girls I've dated mainly been Chinese and Filipino. So haven't had too much real world dating experience with K-girls other than SPs. But from my impression they seem like some next level princesses, as I always seem their boyfriend holding their purse and looking whipped as fuck.

So the date is so-so and cordial but again that whole start to it didn't make for so much romantic night. I get the bill and we head out as her allergies are bothering her and seems like she is getting tired. While leaving I have to hit the washroom where she meets me outside. She starts telling me again about how some guy was telling about a fight that just happened outside the restaurant. And that guy starts hitting on her asking if she wants to go for a drink. I'm like...okay nice to know and don't really care.

I walk her back to her place and give her a kiss for the night. It's a dead fish kiss not giving her anything back. I look at her and was like "Okay, you obviously didn't enjoy that. Did you actually enjoy the night?" and she's like "Yeah, no I wouldn't have stayed to midnight otherwise. I had a really good time". I'm like okay enjoy your night, she asking me if I can find my way home okay (Which was really just a filler because she knew I lived in that same area). I walk away and I'm like fuck this chick I'm not calling her back. She text me 2 mins later and says "Tonight was really good. Get home safe. If you get lost, message me".

I don't message her back, I'm like forget her that was just weird. I head out to go meet up with some friends and party because far I'm concern its still early in the night. She text me in the morning "Got home ok last night? I will go to your area next time". I message her back out of politeness


* The Conclusion

At the end of the date I'm tallying up how much I spent ($100 bucks on dinner and drink) and the time spent (about 3.5 hours) and the drama absorbed (listening to no street corner meeting and fallouts with her friends) without having sex at the end of the night. My first thought was hmmm.... another $40 bucks and I could have had a Half hour session with an SP. Hell even right there since most of the K-girl agencies I love are in that Yonge / Shep area.

I shake my head and think....Man, the level of entitelment some women have these days in unbelievalable. This is why I prefer to just pay for play and get straight to the chase without all the drama and head games.

 

[notthemama]

I'm sure I'm older than you. But I learned the lesson years ago.
After my divorce I normally started dating. Ran into all sorts of wackos that initially seemed normal.
Like you said, the entitlement, was one of the first blocks I hit.
I don't mind paying. However these women work and some of them made more than I did. Would be nice to treated once in a while.
Rarely. I was never in it to take someone for a ride but I don't like to be ridden either.
Then you reach the stage where many have children. You gotta be nice to them. They usually hate you because you're not daddy etc.
Now I have to coo at how beautiful their grandkids are. What the fuck do I care?
Once you make it past that gauntlet you have to make good with their friends and family.
Give me an hour or two with an sp. She'll do things the date never would and I'm not talking anything weird.
After, I get to brag over drinks to my jealous married buddies about the 19-20 year old I just bagged.
I'm KING of my house, what I eat, do, watch and when.
I can stare at young women without having to worry about it.
I have married friends that have not had it for more than a decade.
I just call take-out when the mini-sizzler has an urge.
Nothing better.:thumb:

 

[wazup]

The fact that you walked on a lake is awesome, if she wasn't impressed by that, the hell with her.......seriously, it's a life experience that didn't cost you too much.

 

[Brotherman]

Dude, you kinda messed up in my opinion. She wanted to show you off to all her friends, and you let your own insecurities of "not letting her friends know who you are dating" show up. You need to understand that the women will lead, you need to follow. The fact that she was telling you about how she gets hit on all the time, she was trying to make you jealous, obviously. This is normal in the dating world. You need to be a bit more social and talk with everyone to show that you dont care if she gets hit on. Everybody gets hit on. It's no big deal, and you need to show that by talking to everyone at the social function.

 

[canada-man]

She starts insinuating how guys are hitting on her on all the time.

this is a bad sign wallowing in victimhood.

But from my impression they seem like some next level princesses, as I always seem their boyfriend holding their purse and looking whipped as fuck.

spot the beta!

 

[canada-man]

You need to understand that the women will lead, you need to follow.

women generally look to men to lead

 

[GPIDEAL]

Dating is always more work. It can be a minefield. It can be hit and miss. However, there are girls who are worth dating. Who are worth the bullshit. The hobby can make us lazy. Asking a woman to meet you on a street corner isn't quite so gentlemanly or romantic IMO. Sometimes it's unavoidable when it's the easiest landmark and both of your are commuting. Normally, they would like to either meet at the restaurant or be picked up.

The Korean lady liked the OP. I think she was hoping to be romanced and treated like a princess. Nothing wrong with that, especially when you are just starting off.

 

[chongqing]

Korean women are all princesses. All about the money designer this designer that.
Most I have dated have also been very xenophobic.
If you want them to get serious with them you better be RICH and KOREAN.
Better off sticking to the other Asian nationalities if you want less drama.
If you like Korean women just stick with paying to fuck them and you can leave after and don't have to deal with their drama.
The sense of entitlement is off the charts with these girls. But Korean men know how to deal with them, they don't take any of their shit and keep them locked down.

 

[Luton]

Korean women are all princesses. All about the money designer this designer that.
Most I have dated have also been very xenophobic.
If you want them to get serious with them you better be RICH and KOREAN.
Better off sticking to the other Asian nationalities if you want less drama.
If you like Korean women just stick with paying to fuck them and you can leave after and don't have to deal with their drama.
The sense of entitlement is off the charts with these girls. But Korean men know how to deal with them, they don't take any of their shit and keep them locked down.

Are you always that bigoted and stupid? I wouldn't be surprised that it is not only Korean women that don't give you the time of day. I be shocked if you could find any woman to date with your enlightened views.

 

[chongqing]

Obviously, from your reaction you have no experience with k-girls.
When you have grown up and dated a few get back to me
Until then STFU

 

[Luton]

Obviously, from your reaction you have no experience with k-girls.
When you have grown up and dated a few get back to me
Until then STFU

Lol, you just confirmed what an idiot you are.

 

[theycallmebruce]

As a rule for me, I always meet my dates at the bar section of a restaurant. That way, you can order a quick drink while you wait. If they don't show, no big deal. When they do show, you order her a drink, and decide on what to do next....

 

[Barca]

So I thought I'd share a funny dating story of the modern world. The moral of the story, I would rather spend my moneys on SPs than a date (sometimes). Better Sex and more to the point.

*Pre-lude

So a few weeks ago before travelling to out of town, I'm at a bar with some friends. I see this cute Korean girl I'm eyeing her in the night. I love K-girls and their my SPs of choice. Those angular eyes, olive skin and silky hair just drives me crazy. She is with a friend and they are moving out and about the bar and I'm busy talking to other women and my friends. At the end of the night near last call my friends get ready to leave. I have to make one stop to the washroom. I see the Korean girl and think might as well approached her now as she is finally stationary. I compliment her telling her I was on my way out but I had to tell her that she just looked stunning. She beams and just starts vibing with me and eating up everything I'm saying. We are having a bit of back and forth conversation. Eventually tell I get gotta going actually go to the washroom and then find my friends. We trade numbers and I head off to the washroom.

In the washroom I'm calling texting my friends and they're saying their pretty much ready to go. So as I'm thinking, hmmm maybe hang out with that girl I just met since we seem to have a good vibe going. I come out of the wahroom and the friend she was wish says to me "Hey did my friend find you? She was looking for you?". Then I see the girl K-girl that I originally was talking with coming toward me from the direction of the washroom, looks like she was indeed looking for me. She says that she wanted to make sure I got her number right, because when I called it (Standard way people trade numbers, they punch in their number in your phone and you call it so they have your number) didn't seem to be received on her phone. Anyhow we take care of that and I ask her and her friend want to go for some food.

We head out together and we lock up hand in hand. At the restaurant she is snuggling up and getting cozy with me. I'm talking with her friend mainly so she doesn't feel like a third wheel. After eating we drop off her friend who lives in the area. And start walking back to my place. Along the way we're making out heavily and quiet a few interludes. At the end of the night I end up dropping her off at her home. She says to me "I hope you don't forget me" since I'm leaving the next day to travel out of town across the border.

While travelling were texting (Whatsapps) every day or two chatting with each other. She is usually quick to respond and responsive. When I get back we set a Date to go out.

* The Date

Coordinating she tells me she has a work function and can meet after a certain time. I end up telling her to meet me at a street corner (downtown) close to that function. Because I'm thinking she might not want others to see who she is dating. Then the day of, she text me if we can meet earlier because she doesn't look like she is going to that work function. I ask her where her work is and she tells me. I say lets meet up at so and so street corner. I don't hear back in response to that recommendation of a street corner. But I assume it's on as she has otherwise never ignored text at this point.

Time shows up and I go to the street corner she is not there. I text her and she replies with a "What? How come? I didn't agree to meet you at XXX and XX. And I didn't see any further messagse. So I thought it's not going to happen.". I'm like Okkkayyy...So I call her up trying to figure what's up. She starts going off on how she doesn't meet people on the street etc etc. End of the day I'm like, hey we set this night to hang out so let's do it and we'll talk it out. She's at home up at the Yonge and Sheppard area (Koreans at Yonge and sheppard...no way ) so its a quick subway ride down.

I head down to her place, she looks dressed up and looking fine and obviously was ready for a date. But she comes out looking all with a WTF look on her face. No necessarily angry, but the same face I had when she wasn't there and I was like Okkkay. We start walking and talking, she is trying to articulate how she doesn't meet people on the street. I'm looking in her the eye and smiling and like "I'm not so sure what you're saying". She babbling that I can't make logical sense of, eventually alludes its okay for friends to meet that way but not a date. I'm thinking to myself, hmmmm. Been quiete a few dates like that since its downtown and summertime we meet at a corner and and figure a place to go. Actually my last 2 dates were like that and went well where we met somewhere, took a walk on the lake, went for dinner and headed back to my place. For the most part I just listen and trying to hear what she is saying.

End of the day, seems like the synopsis of what she is saying was she didn't feel that was making any effort. She seems to cool down a bit for dinner and some drinks. But still this leaves a bad start to the date. She starts insinuating how guys are hitting on her on all the time. And when she saw that message about proposing to meet on the street she almost deleted my number. She then tells me a story about how the friend I met of hers that night at the bar how they had a fall out.

I'm thinking to myself...this bitch is crazy. Although she is not terrible and still touchy feely with me during the date, she definetely seems regressed from when I first met her and not as warm. So originally thinking when I first met her this chick loved me from the start. Now I'm wondering if she even likes me. I'm thinking is this a Korean girl thing where she wants to be treated like a total princess? Or she just friggin psycho or was I being insensitive. Out of the asian girls I've dated mainly been Chinese and Filipino. So haven't had too much real world dating experience with K-girls other than SPs. But from my impression they seem like some next level princesses, as I always seem their boyfriend holding their purse and looking whipped as fuck.

So the date is so-so and cordial but again that whole start to it didn't make for so much romantic night. I get the bill and we head out as her allergies are bothering her and seems like she is getting tired. While leaving I have to hit the washroom where she meets me outside. She starts telling me again about how some guy was telling about a fight that just happened outside the restaurant. And that guy starts hitting on her asking if she wants to go for a drink. I'm like...okay nice to know and don't really care.

I walk her back to her place and give her a kiss for the night. It's a dead fish kiss not giving her anything back. I look at her and was like "Okay, you obviously didn't enjoy that. Did you actually enjoy the night?" and she's like "Yeah, no I wouldn't have stayed to midnight otherwise. I had a really good time". I'm like okay enjoy your night, she asking me if I can find my way home okay (Which was really just a filler because she knew I lived in that same area). I walk away and I'm like fuck this chick I'm not calling her back. She text me 2 mins later and says "Tonight was really good. Get home safe. If you get lost, message me".

I don't message her back, I'm like forget her that was just weird. I head out to go meet up with some friends and party because far I'm concern its still early in the night. She text me in the morning "Got home ok last night? I will go to your area next time". I message her back out of politeness


* The Conclusion

At the end of the date I'm tallying up how much I spent ($100 bucks on dinner and drink) and the time spent (about 3.5 hours) and the drama absorbed (listening to no street corner meeting and fallouts with her friends) without having sex at the end of the night. My first thought was hmmm.... another $40 bucks and I could have had a Half hour session with an SP. Hell even right there since most of the K-girl agencies I love are in that Yonge / Shep area.

I shake my head and think....Man, the level of entitelment some women have these days in unbelievalable. This is why I prefer to just pay for play and get straight to the chase without all the drama and head games.

This all sounds so familiar. I'm currently dating a hot girl a dozen years my junior. Sexy as I've ever had. Bat shit crazy.

As my man Sheldon Cooper says: Bitches be crazy

 

[cbc 66]

All about the money designer this designer that.

Better off sticking to the other Asian nationalities if you want less drama.

The sense of entitlement is off the charts with these girls

Unfortunately, this is true of many asian nationalities and cultures. It all depends on where they grew up. In my civilian life, i have dated filipina, korean, vietnamese, chinese from all backgrounds: cbc, hong kong, taiwan, mainland china, and most recently japanese. Many exhibited some of these traits: princess treatment, designer label obsession, man holding woman's purse. I would say its common dating asian girls in general. But it is certainly not the norm, and definitely not the rule by any means. Case in point: the last time i went shopping with a korean girl i spent $23. In comparison, i spent $265 with the japanese girl.

 

[asuran]

As a rule for me, I always meet my dates at the bar section of a restaurant. That way, you can order a quick drink while you wait. If they don't show, no big deal. When they do show, you order her a drink, and decide on what to do next....

I agree with this. Personally I have never ask someone, who I am interested to date, to meet me at a street corner.
If I'm not there to pick her up, I'd prefer to meet somewhere indoors (bar section as bruce mentioned is perfect). I'd even rather it be a Tim's or Starbucks than a street corner.
Just my personal preference.

 

[canada-man]

Unfortunately, this is true of many asian nationalities and cultures. It all depends on where they grew up. In my civilian life, i have dated filipina, korean, vietnamese, chinese from all backgrounds: cbc, hong kong, taiwan, mainland, and most recently japanese. Many exhibited some of these traits: pricess treatment, designer label obsession, man holding woman's purse. I would say its common dating asian girls in general. But it is certainly not the norm, and definitely not the rule by any means. Case in point: the last time i went shopping with a korean girl i spent $23. In comparison, i spent $265 with the japanese girl.

my asian gf is not like the above one time when she was ill i text her saying i would buy her something she replied saying no she wants to see me.

 

[Ridgeman08]

Offering to meet on a street corner? Really? Is that a thing?

If you aren't at that stage yet where you can pick her up at home, offer to meet at a close by pub/ bar etc. or at the very least a Starbucks or something.

Meeting at a street corner is just about the weirdest thing ever.

 

[Sophia Sinclair]

dating is always more work. It can be a minefield. It can be hit and miss. However, there are girls who are worth dating. Who are worth the bullshit. The hobby can make us lazy. Asking a woman to meet you on a street corner isn't quite so gentlemanly or romantic imo. Sometimes it's unavoidable when it's the easiest landmark and both of your are commuting. Normally, they would like to either meet at the restaurant or be picked up.

The korean lady liked the op. I think she was hoping to be romanced and treated like a princess. Nothing wrong with that, especially when you are just starting off.

^^this^^

 

[Powpow]

As a rule for me, I always meet my dates at the bar section of a restaurant. That way, you can order a quick drink while you wait. If they don't show, no big deal. When they do show, you order her a drink, and decide on what to do next....

I think this is great advice. You get to have a drink while you wait, scope out the menu and wine list so ordering will be smooth and prepared, ask where the bathroom is so when your date asks later you can just tell her. If you don't know her that well you can just grab a cocktail or two and figure out if you hate each other or not before you commit to an entire evening together and a larger bill. Sometimes you really hit if off and you now have the option of skipping dinner and go straight to dessert! Other times you have just kicked off the date in a much less formal setting that sitting down quietly across the table from each other.

I also find it great to evaluate if there is a match in character and personality. I like nightlife and bars and cocktails. Someone women aren't big drinkers and aren't comfortable at the bar. Experience tells me that there is no future match for me with her if she is the type that might find herself in temperance meetings at the rec center in her church.

I can't imagine asking someone to meet at a street corner unless I have been with her for a very long time or it is Role Play night and we wanted to act out some sort of street walker /pick up fantasy.

.... which just gave a me great idea for this week with my girl!

 

[exnocomment]

At the end of the date I'm tallying up how much I spent ($100 bucks on dinner and drink) and the time spent (about 3.5 hours) and the drama absorbed (listening to no street corner meeting and fallouts with her friends) without having sex at the end of the night. My first thought was hmmm.... another $40 bucks and I could have had a Half hour session with an SP. Hell even right there since most of the K-girl agencies I love are in that Yonge / Shep area.

I shake my head and think....Man, the level of entitelment some women have these days in unbelievalable. This is why I prefer to just pay for play and get straight to the chase without all the drama and head games.

As someone that does a whole lot of math and scenario analysis for a living.. I'm going to call BS on this kind of analysis.

Other folks have already commented on whether what you or she or both of you did was appropriate or showed a genuine amount of effort with respect to dating.. Not to mention the potential for a long-term emotional connection, someone to take care of you when you're sick, whether you want to have kids one day, etc etc etc.. You clearly were/are in an unhappy state of mind .. but do keep in mind she did text you to thank you for the evening and asked if you got home safe.

What I'm going to point out is - have you done the same math for every successful date you've been on?
Say the math is the same .. Drinks + Dinner (>$100) + Time Spent .. and SUCCESS! So, sex, yes, but for only an hour? Probably not. Probably an hour of sex (probably less good than an SP but.. :wink plus chatting, plus a bunch of off-the-clock naked foreplay. How many hours? What would an SP charge for the entire time? What about successful overnight dates? Do the math there. Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands?

Never forget that your time with a lovely SP is "augmented reality" that you pay for monetarily. It's a fantasy separate (mostly) from real life and all it's little grey areas and inconveniences. Hopefully it is time spent that you both get to enjoy - the best SP is an SP that is enjoying your company as well after all - further amplified by the fact that everything is on the table with generally no or minimal ancillary expectations floating around it.