Political commentator Dinesh D'Souza explains the left-wing roots of fascism eloquently and compellingly in the following video (5 minutes 37 seconds)
Should Fascism Sit on the Right…or Left?
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D'Souza. Might as well have Candace Owens talk about slavery.
But fascism is a governmental policy of authoritarian rule, not an economic policy that was originally the definition of left and right.
But fascism is a governmental policy of authoritarian rule, not an economic policy that was originally the definition of left and right.
Yep. And don't have access to teh email I registered with.
Eloquent and compelling are not synonyms for correct.
I could make a compelling case that the sea is not blue, because blue was not defined when the sea was formed. Greeks write of a "wine dark sea".
Redefining it as blue is a construct of later western civilizations who didn't want to be associated with the failed Greek empire.
See compelling, eloquent, contains some facts, but is not correct.
I doubt it very much.
If this was a common claim that feminists made, it would be everywhere, along with its debunking.
I was at Take Back the Night rallies.
I've never seen any serious proposal of these numbers.
The thing is, there is a lot to criticize in the stats around sexual assault.
It's difficult to get numbers on and you can skew them by being selective about your definitions and so on.
Why invent claims that don't appear to have been made when there are real claims to challenge?
Absolutely.
(And yes, lots of people fought with Paglia because she was famously an asshole.
)There are many feminisms and there have been many views of all sorts of issues under that broader term.
My contention is with your statement that there was a group pushing 90% of women have been raped.
No idea who was being insensitive there since I didn't see the whole interaction but it sounds like a pretty fucked up work environment with people being shitheads to each other.
D'Souza's quite the authoritative source on fascist views in his own right...
With all do respect, apparently you know my life better than i do lol. But mate i was there. Now, maybe they weren't serious feminists but some splinter extremist wing (they were marxists too) and feminism on campus came in many forms. Maybe just my campus, but no internet back then to gauge how widespread. But extremist groups exist for every movement, even the best ones. And I fear I lived through one. Another incident where a female colleague was cornered at a social gathering and told how she's falling for the patriarchy and the only natural way to be is lesbian and these 2 womyn (their spelling) hectored her (gently at first) for being hetero. These womyn did this every time they saw her such that she went out of her way to avoid them. She says (she's currently a prof at a US uni) that harassment rules have been better articulated in the last 20 or so years, so had that been a recent event she would have for sure filed a title 9 complaint.I doubt it very much.
If this was a common claim that feminists made, it would be everywhere, along with its debunking.
I was at Take Back the Night rallies.
I've never seen any serious proposal of these numbers.
The thing is, there is a lot to criticize in the stats around sexual assault.
It's difficult to get numbers on and you can skew them by being selective about your definitions and so on.
Why invent claims that don't appear to have been made when there are real claims to challenge?
Absolutely.
(And yes, lots of people fought with Paglia because she was famously an asshole.
There are many feminisms and there have been many views of all sorts of issues under that broader term.
My contention is with your statement that there was a group pushing 90% of women have been raped.
No idea who was being insensitive there since I didn't see the whole interaction but it sounds like a pretty fucked up work environment with people being shitheads to each other.
Again, this shit and various wild claims were happening on my campus back then. And the extreme nature of it stuck with me to this day. But you're arguing this was not central to the movement nor any part of the mainstream movement and I'll concede that.
But people believe the earth is flat too.
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You said before that people keeping this myth alive have an agenda.
Think about that and what it is and why you are so invested in supporting it.
I'm glad you are kind of backing off the claim "From that they started to bandy about stats like 90% of women were raped." as if it was a thing.
Of course they do.
But I'd never say "Right wingers started claiming that black women preferred to be sex slaves" even though it is certainly a thing some people have said. Because it would be ridiculous to phrase that in such a way as if to say it was a common thing for right wingers across the board.
I still don't understand why you didn't just go "Sorry, I was exaggerating for effect, but theydid start throwing around some ridiculous stats".
She absolutely should have.
The whole "fucking men is submitting to the patriarchy and you have to stop" is still a thing that happens. Just like the "It's a sign of your intolerance that you are against dating Republican men" and all the other "I will use my politics to pressure people I want to fuck into fucking me" shit humans do. Sadly, I don't think that bullshit will ever stop. There are always going to be people who really love justifying why it is unfair you aren't interested in fucking them.
Yes, they do.
