Gun control doesn't mean you're a Liberal. Perhaps a gun ban does, but it depends what kind of gun too.
Shooting At McDonalds
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I would like more of an explanation of what happened and why no charges
This is as bad as the hole was dug for personal reasons. I also don't understand how a person shoots two people and his name is not released? That's very strange.
This new police chief is really a secretive fellow- I guess he forgets he works for the people
This is as bad as the hole was dug for personal reasons. I also don't understand how a person shoots two people and his name is not released? That's very strange.
This new police chief is really a secretive fellow- I guess he forgets he works for the people
Here is the official explanation."Since no charges were laid there is no legal requirement to violate his privacy."Think of this example. Two masked intruders burst into your house and start beating you up. You shoot both of them dead. No charges are laid after an exhaustive police investigation. Do you want your name in the newspapers?
It would be in the papers in a second. I can't think of a single case where someon shot and killed another person and they weren't named in the paper
I can see why they want to protect his privacy, but I don't see why they cannot release a report with the name of the security guard as well as a video with his face pixelated so that the public can be informed as to what went down. The two dead guys did look like douchebags though and one was known to start fights.
I suspect the perps reached for the guard's gun and he reacted in self-defence.
Can you find any examples of where someone shot in Toronto, the shooter wasn't charged yet they were identified? I can't think of any, likely because there's rarely a case of someone shooting a person in self-defence. Legal (civilian) gun owners don't typically go around shooting people in Toronto.
They don't want to release his name exactly to protect his privacy. Doing otherwise opens this guy up for persecution by a politically motivated public mob, including some politically motivated media. He was cleared of any wrongdoing under the law, so not accused, and that's the end of it.
The public knows what went on, without having to see the gory details, pixellated or not.
To go further, I don't agree that any person accused of a crime should have their names publicized, since they are innocent until proven guilty (he wasn't even accused). The court of public opinion, through the trashy media, is quick to render judgement before a trial has taken place. When the person is acquitted, there is never any retraction (well, maybe on page 25 at the bottom in small print) or acknowledgement of innocence, and the person is stigmatized for life.
You're confusing legitimate use and legal possession, with criminal use and possession. In the latter case, the perpetrators would be alleged to have broken the law, and it's common to have names of the accused published.
You are putting legal owners of firearms using them legitimately, in the same boat as criminals. This is the popular discourse with gun control: the assumption that only criminals have guns (or conversely that guns instantly turn otherwise peaceful people into criminals), and they somehow can just walk into your local neighborhood gun store and buy one over the counter. That's why the not regretted Toronto mayor David Miller wanted to ban gun stores and shooting ranges in Toronto, because of a perception that guns could be bought by anybody and everybody, turning them into instant criminals.
She can fuck right off with that bullshit. Accountability? Change so it never happens again? Where was her brother's accountability? Where was his change to stop being a crackhead that assaults people for no reason?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So the guy has mental issues, treatment fails, he self medicates which doesn't work so he attacks an armed security guard, gets shot, dies and his sister blames the guard for having a gun? Wow, that's a stretch! 
"Brenda has hired a lawyer to assist her in pressuring the Ontario government for stricter controls and accountability measures regarding armed security guards."
Really? When was the last time a security guard shot someone before or after this incident? I think she needs a new hobby. I'm sure the cops would have charged him had he broke any firearms regulations/laws.
I'm sorry to say, it was only a matter of time before he took on a cop (which would have resulted in the same outcome) or jumped off a bridge.
"Brenda has hired a lawyer to assist her in pressuring the Ontario government for stricter controls and accountability measures regarding armed security guards."
Really? When was the last time a security guard shot someone before or after this incident? I think she needs a new hobby. I'm sure the cops would have charged him had he broke any firearms regulations/laws.
I'm sorry to say, it was only a matter of time before he took on a cop (which would have resulted in the same outcome) or jumped off a bridge.
The term 'Liberal' has morphed into 'neo-liberal'. That's where those 'liberals' who run the state want to tell you how to run your life because you're too stupid to be trusted with any responsibility. They also apply the law of lowest-common-denominator.
A long time ago, the term 'liberal' meant freedom for the individual. Now, it's completely the opposite, as to neo-liberals, the people are considered universally too stupid to be trusted with firearms.
I heard from someone who saw the video One guy body-checked the guard, then the other guy jumped and knocked him to the ground. With him on his back, they both began punching and kicking him in the chest and head including grabbing his head and repeatedly smashing it against the floor. They then tried to grab his gun which is when they were shot.
As the saying goes, I guess they won't do that again.
It is totally understandable why the police did not press charges.
Query: Does Ryan Hind meet the threshold of being mentally ill?
Can be many people hurt before the guy takes on a cop and loses. Know of another guy that was finally shot by the police, and his previous victims included a nurse who he beat and left mentally disabled.
Did the security guards do a public service here?
machete attack and takedown caught on-camera : http://globalnews.ca/video/2420253/terrifying-toronto-machete-attack-and-takedown-caught-on-camera
Surprised how many people walk by and do nothing. Same with the Sammy Yatim on the streetcar, people walked away.
