Hi all, saw there new girl today in Kitchener Shiori. Very bad experience. Very tiny girl, doesn’t have anything on front or back. She is just a typical street girl that want you to be out in 5 mins. Very aggressive and rough attitude. I am out in 10 mins. This very bad for Sakura. They have top girl like Nozomi, Nana and Ruka currently. Don’t know how Sakura selected this girl. Stay away and enjoy other regular girls. Thx
Shiori at Sakura. Bad experience.
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Hi, thanks for sharing your experience and sorry it did not go well.
Shiori is not one of our residential models. She normally works in Toronto and is considered okay there, but she is not on the same level as our regular girls like Nozomi, Nana or Ruka. For this reason we actually priced her lower than her usual Toronto rate
Many of our customers know that when we mess up, we always apologize and try to make it right. But in this case, Shiori has worked with us for over a week without a single complaint about any other customer. After seeing what she told us about this booking, we decided it is more fair to side with her.
We will attach the screenshot below.
We prefer to let everyone see the information and decide for themselves.
We also do not want to ban any race because there are good people in every race. But if almost all serious problems keep coming from the same group, we may have no choice in the future.
Thanks for understanding.
Shiori is not one of our residential models. She normally works in Toronto and is considered okay there, but she is not on the same level as our regular girls like Nozomi, Nana or Ruka. For this reason we actually priced her lower than her usual Toronto rate
Many of our customers know that when we mess up, we always apologize and try to make it right. But in this case, Shiori has worked with us for over a week without a single complaint about any other customer. After seeing what she told us about this booking, we decided it is more fair to side with her.
We will attach the screenshot below.
We prefer to let everyone see the information and decide for themselves.
We also do not want to ban any race because there are good people in every race. But if almost all serious problems keep coming from the same group, we may have no choice in the future.
Thanks for understanding.
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This thing about us is not wrong at all. In fact, one of my friend who go to SPs does say that most SPs don't prefer us because of our bad hygiene and lack of understanding of consent. Seriously! I really don't know why they act like some entitled prick.
Whenever you go for a session, please make sure to take a shower to maintain good hygiene and understand that consent and respect are equally important.
That's actually insane if she's being for real. But I'll give you that - you actually get that not everyone's built the same. There's always gonna be a few walking red flags in the mix, but that doesn't mean the whole squad's trash.
Me personally, I ALWAYS ask for consent before I even think about touching. "No means no," no debate. And yeah, even if DFK is listed as allowed, if she's not vibing with it in real life and says she doesn't wanna do it, that's her full right. End of story.
End of the day, respect women, bro. They're not NPCs you can just click and play with. Know your boundaries, know theirs, and keep your energy clean.
Real ones don't force vibes - they match them.
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Hi, I am a regular at Sakura. I recently tried to meet Ruka and they said she isn't taking Indians. I felt bad a little but if this is the reason behind that decision, it's understandable. Also, people of such behavior are everywhere and not just limited to one race. So I request, please don't spread hate to any race or judge people on the basis of race. There are all kinds of people from all over the world.
We are all mature and let's not assume things when we meet or talk about a specific individual when we don't know them already. Let's see this as a person to person case and not link them to a specific race or group.
But again, from Sakura's perspective - if more complaints are related to a specific race, they got no choice but to ban.
To specific people who don't take hygiene very seriously or don't respect or cause any discomfort to SPs: Just think twice before you ask for something, be in their shoes and think if it's respectful. Also, hygiene is not for somebody else's safety, it's for our own. We need to respect our own body first. Not here to preach but when people usually judge us, I feel I am being seen as one among those who don't follow rules and I hate it. Please, prioritize hygiene, respect and comfort. Thank you.
We are all mature and let's not assume things when we meet or talk about a specific individual when we don't know them already. Let's see this as a person to person case and not link them to a specific race or group.
But again, from Sakura's perspective - if more complaints are related to a specific race, they got no choice but to ban.
To specific people who don't take hygiene very seriously or don't respect or cause any discomfort to SPs: Just think twice before you ask for something, be in their shoes and think if it's respectful. Also, hygiene is not for somebody else's safety, it's for our own. We need to respect our own body first. Not here to preach but when people usually judge us, I feel I am being seen as one among those who don't follow rules and I hate it. Please, prioritize hygiene, respect and comfort. Thank you.
The quick shower on arrival is mandatory for everyone. It is not only for hygiene. The models also use it to check for any visible STI symptoms for their own safety. Even if someone showered at home, refusing the on-site shower is still breaking the rules.
Your first visits went well because you followed everything properly. The problems started only after you became familiar and began refusing the mandatory shower and other guidelines. This is about behavior, not race.
It has never been about ethnicity. Some of our best and most respectful customers are from the same group you mentioned. The issue is that the ratio of rule-breaking in that group has been much higher, so the models have to be more cautious. We honestly feel bad when well-behaved customers are affected because of others.
As long as the rules are respected, there is never any problem for anyone.
Your first visits went well because you followed everything properly. The problems started only after you became familiar and began refusing the mandatory shower and other guidelines. This is about behavior, not race.
It has never been about ethnicity. Some of our best and most respectful customers are from the same group you mentioned. The issue is that the ratio of rule-breaking in that group has been much higher, so the models have to be more cautious. We honestly feel bad when well-behaved customers are affected because of others.
As long as the rules are respected, there is never any problem for anyone.
This is not a hygiene or shower issue. Sakura is keep trying to link a bad experience with shower. I have a habit of taking fresh shower before coming and did the same yesterday. And I told her that I just took shower and she it’s ok. If the shower is issue then she can refuse the service at very beginning.
I know who important is to be clean and good hygiene when you are paying high charges and want good service.
In my review I mentioned that how great the other regular ladies are so those are not impacted with review.
this girl is totally different and has an attitude like the cheap girls you saw in cheap motels. and not even close to there other regulars. She is not interested in the service and has a rush attitude to get it done.
and also the the girl didn’t ended the session. I was so uncomfortable with her attitude that after 10 mins I told her that I have to leave and left the place. And when I was leaving she start yelling on me. I usually don’t write reviews and just because of her yelling I wrote this review.
This is my honest review. I have no issues with the management they are very good and helpful. Now they can take it to improve or just link it to some other thing to give a cover. Thx
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1) Ya, in everyone's story, they're the hero. I doubt it went as you described. How about you outline all the things you did wrong. You've already stated you didn't take a shower at the site. What else?
2) ..and there it is boys. "Improve" & "link it to other things to give a cover" is the real reason. Vig. Danegold. Nick of flesh. Gafol. Jizya. Give me $.
Dude - I doubt they want you as a customer. Give it up. I think everyone here is behind Sakura. GOD I love it when management posts here.
3) You have a slim post history in 5 years and from my 30 seconds of reading, it's mostly negative. I suspect you're just not a happy guy are you?
As for the other issue, personally I don't think it's not a race thing. It's cultural. Indian-Canadians I really, really doubt there's a significant variance in behavior because the cultural context - even with Japanese which, as cultural North Americans, we're really bound to screw up cultural cues associated with "no" - is well understood and agreed to. We understand consent regardless of race, colour, or creed. It's what you grow up with. Any issues are likely within the standard deviation of outliers regardless of skin color.
Indian-Indian/Pakistan? I suspect growing up with a different culture and their attitudes towards women, sex workers, body odour/hygeine (as well as issues around Class Structure) are really the source of the issue here. Even this REALLY depends on where from India/Pakistan they're from as well. As I understand it, we're getting mostly rubes and you might be exhibit #1.
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I agree with speakercontrols here. The way people were brought up plays a part on how they act. I don't know the person who started this review thread, so I can't comment on him but I know a few people who treat women in these jobs with disrespect and see them as lowly, even though they willingly use their services. They view these SPs as sex objects and their behavior towards SPs reflect it. Some are just lazy or take rules for granted.
1) Ya, in everyone's story, they're the hero. I doubt it went as you described. How about you outline all the things you did wrong. You've already stated you didn't take a shower. What else?
2) ..and there it is boys. "Improve" & "link it to other things to give a cover" is the real reason. Vig. Danegold. Nick of flesh. Gafol. Jizya. Give me $.
Dude - I doubt they want you as a customer. Give it up. I think everyone here is behind Sakura.
3) You have a slim post history and from my 30 seconds of reading, it's mostly negative. I suspect you're just not a happy guy are you?
As for the other issue, personally I don't think it's not a race thing. It's cultural. Indian-Canadians I really, really doubt there's a significant variance in behavior because the context is well understood and agreed to. It's what you grow up with. Any issues are likely within the standard deviation of outliers regardless of skin color.
Indian-Indian? I suspect growing up with a different culture and their attitudes towards women, sex workers, body odour/hygeine are really the source of the issue here. Even this REALLY depends on where from India they're from as well. As I understand it, we're getting mostly rubes.
You’re making a lot of assumptions that aren’t based on anything real. I never asked for a discount, and the shower detail was only mentioned because it was relevant. I even tried to book more time with the same girl afterward and planned to leave an honest review, so the idea that I was looking for money or a “cover story” doesn’t fit the facts.
If you’re so confident in your assumptions, then go try the service yourself and post your own honest review and then let me know how it actually went for you.
Until then, let’s stick to facts—not stereotypes and guesswork.
Dude.. I clearly said, I don't know about you and so won't comment about you. I no where mentioned about "asking for discounts or negotiating roses".. I didn't assume anything so far but now I do want to assume you are high on something
As i said, I tried booking Ruka but got a response saying she isn't taking Indians. Now, even if I ask for Shiori, after this experience we all chatted about, she too would probably decline seeing Indians.
As i said, I tried booking Ruka but got a response saying she isn't taking Indians. Now, even if I ask for Shiori, after this experience we all chatted about, she too would probably decline seeing Indians.
You’re making a lot of assumptions that aren’t based on anything real. I never asked for a discount, and the shower detail was only mentioned because it was relevant. I even tried to book more time with the same girl afterward and planned to leave an honest review, so the idea that I was looking for money or a “cover story” doesn’t fit the facts.
If you’re so confident in your assumptions, then go try the service yourself and post your own honest review and then let me know how it actually went for you.
Until then, let’s stick to facts—not stereotypes and guesswork.
I saw shiori when she was in London and found her to be incredibly sweet - no bad attitude at all. Very good service, never felt like I was being rushed through anything and I really enjoyed the time.
I believe this. I've heard from other girls who had similar experiences with the same type of people. Might not be all of them but it seems like some cultures have a higher percent chance of being disrespectful to girls. It's not hard to be respectful and be clean.
Some of it is racist though. Not speaking about Sakura in particular, just in general.
A lot of ads have no black gents allowed. And I think some of sakura’s agents as well.
it’s their body their choice, so at the end of the day, it’s no one’s business. Just pointing that out.
Also, long overdue review but Sakura is the best agency in KWC rn. Quick and easy to book,
the SP’s aren’t catfish as well. 10/10
