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curr3n_c1000 said:
The bike lane was the most stupidest idea created in the gta.
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I agree. Toronto is just not a bike city. It’s not set up to be one, and just slapping a few bike lanes in isn’t going to change that. Go somewhere like Amsterdam, that city is set up specifically for bikes. It’s planned and built around bikes. Toronto was not and is not. If you ride a bike on the road in Toronto, you simply have to accept that you’re using the road in a way it was not intended to be used. The city is designed for cars, if you’re going to bike, you need to be super careful. Not saying this girl did anything wrong, I wasn’t there, I don’t know, but I do see bikers weaving in and out of traffic like lunatics all the time. You can’t do that, it’s asking for trouble. Respect larger vehicles, don’t rely on the law to protect you. Just because the law says someone can’t hit you doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

If the city of Toronto is so hellbent on bikes being a thing here, they need to invest some serious money into implementing the necessary infrastructure to make it viable and safe. In the meantime, don’t bike like an asshole, guys. You’re not entitled to anything, and cars aren’t going to just magically stop and let you by when you’re weaving around like a maniac.
 
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The most annoying bicyclists are the ones who completely ignore stop signs or red lights
 
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The city is not designed for snow ploughing. Thankfully we don’t get the snowfall Montreal gets because the army would be stationed here for the entire winter.

That being said drivers need to be more mindful of cyclists. Cyclists need to stop riding as if they have a death wish. When my F150 Raptor is side by side with a street car I can tongue the streetcar; cyclists still want to pass me when we are stopped. If a cyclist falls and is run over by a streetcar they won’t survive. If I run you over you won’t want to survive.
 
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Grimnul said:
I agree. Toronto is just not a bike city. It’s not set up to be one, and just slapping a few bike lanes in isn’t going to change that. Go somewhere like Amsterdam, that city is set up specifically for bikes. It’s planned and built around bikes. Toronto was not and is not. If you ride a bike on the road in Toronto, you simply have to accept that you’re using the road in a way it was not intended to be used. The city is designed for cars, if you’re going to bike, you need to be super careful. Not saying this girl did anything wrong, I wasn’t there, I don’t know, but I do see bikers weaving in and out of traffic like lunatics all the time. You can’t do that, it’s asking for trouble. Respect larger vehicles, don’t rely on the law to protect you. Just because the law says someone can’t hit you doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

If the city of Toronto is so hellbent on bikes being a thing here, they need to invest some serious money into implementing the necessary infrastructure to make it viable and safe. In the meantime, don’t bike like an asshole, guys. You’re not entitled to anything, and cars aren’t going to just magically stop and let you by when you’re weaving around like a maniac.
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Hell, I'd argue the city wasn't even designed for cars. Barely any parking space, single lanes in high traffic areas, no left turns in the downtown core. Should have invested in Public Transit, but what do I know.

The worst is when you make a right turn and these bikers pop up out of nowhere. It's a miracle I haven't injured someone.
 
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The bike lanes have a stop sign on the ground. I guess to not confuse people but for some reason, they still drive through them.

So glad I don't live in the city. An hour in DT streets and I'm liable to you'll my hair out.
 
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Grimnul said:
I agree. Toronto is just not a bike city. It’s not set up to be one, and just slapping a few bike lanes in isn’t going to change that.
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Spoken from someone who doesn't bike, obviously.
I've been biking in this city for years, its a good city for biking.
Its flat, we now are finally getting bike lanes across and there are only a few weeks a year where the snow is too much to bike.

Downtown biking is the fastest way around, way faster than driving, ttc or uber.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Spoken from someone who doesn't bike, obviously.
I've been biking in this city for years, its a good city for biking.
Its flat, we now are finally getting bike lanes across and there are only a few weeks a year where the snow is too much to bike.

Downtown biking is the fastest way around, way faster than driving, ttc or uber.
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Agreed, but it doesn't change the fact that many cyclists have a death wish. I do a lot of driving and I see more dumb shit from cyclists in a day in DT Toronto than I see from drivers in a week.

Drivers rarely run red lights. Cyclists do it all the time, often without properly looking for the cross traffic. Drivers almost always come to a complete stop at red lights / stop signs (at the very least a "rolling stop"). Cyclists don't even slow down. Drivers usually check their blindspots before switching lanes. But with cyclists, when they're approaching a parked vehicle in their lane, they will swing out into the other lane without even a turn of the head, and therefore have no idea if a car is approaching in that lane from behind. This particular one is a big problem, IMO. An observant driver can anticipate when a cyclist is going to do this, but not all drivers are that observant.

I will always, always, always be an advocate for cyclists riding on the sidewalks rather than the roads. Yes, that means they will encounter congestion in some areas, but it's vastly safer outside those areas.
 
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A driver with an already bad record, and a license suspension for it, who hit a cyclist in the bike lane in front of him when he failed to adjust his car's path to go around the parked cars they were both approaching.

One has to wonder why and how he was ever granted a license in the first place, or had it reinstated after his first four-year suspension.

With all the other options for travel in the City, the best way to achieve Vision Zero is fewer drivers, and better ones.
 
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You gotta wonder how many more paralyzed bikers or others with serious injuries it takes before the City shuts down these bike lanes
 
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Samantha Jones said:
I ride all the time downtown. It's fine, you just have to be super alert and patient.
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Your being alert and patient helps reduce your risk. But you simply cannot protect yourself against inattentive drivers.

How can you defend against a car overtaking you from behind and clipping you, sending you into a parked car and then running you over?
 
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I will never ride my bike on the road with cars. IMO you are way too much at an disadvantage...

You have your back to cars speeding by you within a few feet, inches sometimes
You and your bike weigh what, 170lbs combined vs a 3500lb car made out of steel
#1Theres way too many horrible drivers out there that have no clue how to drive and would probably clip you, not even notice and keep drivin

I only ride on bike paths where there are no cars like the Waterfront Trail
 
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Smash said:
I will never ride my bike on the road with cars. IMO you are way too much at an disadvantage...

You have your back to cars speeding by you within a few feet, inches sometimes
You and your bike weigh what, 170lbs combined vs a 3500lb car made out of steel
#1Theres way too many horrible drivers out there that have no clue how to drive and would probably clip you, not even notice and keep drivin

I only ride on bike paths where there are no cars like the Waterfront Trail
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Even if a driver is not horrible, the element of human error is always be present. Make a small mistake, miss looking in the blind spot, get distracted for mere seconds, and that's enough to easily kill someone sharing the road on a bike. A man in B.C. died when he collided with someone who opened the door of their parked car.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Spoken from someone who doesn't bike, obviously.
I've been biking in this city for years, its a good city for biking.
Its flat, we now are finally getting bike lanes across and there are only a few weeks a year where the snow is too much to bike.

Downtown biking is the fastest way around, way faster than driving, ttc or uber.
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Like Rob Ford said, " Street are for car!" If you ride a bike in Toronto, you have a death wish... Futhermore if you get run over by a car or truck, it your own fault for putting your life on the line when you cycle in the city. Simple physics car weigh two tons and you weight 90 kg . F=MASS * Acceration , the car will always win and you as a cyclist will always lose.

PS I won't have any sympathy for a pinko leftie Eco cyclist like you" frankkie" when you are run over by car / truck and become flat as a pancake or dead as a door nail. At least you won't be breathing out any CO2 and you can play a big part in your so call pseudoscience of climate change!! Which you strongly believe in that bullshit of global warming.

PPS I won't be surprised if you get run over by a car or truck, it just a matter of luck.
 
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Way more pedestrians are killed than cyclists. Do pedestrians have a death wish?
 
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