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Brill

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Good point, Genevieve.

Every person deserves basic respect.

I hope these interesting ads create some general discussion.
 

Rockslinger

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Great campaign. Although it's too bad we have to learn to respect sex workers because they are somebody's family, and not just because they are somebody.
Sex worker clients are people too. We are your sons, brothers, fathers, husbands, etc. We cut your grass, we heal your wounds, we put shingles on your roof, we drive TTC buses, we bring you vegetables in big trucks, we fill your rotten teeth, etc.
 

DocOdd

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Sex worker clients are people too.
All of them? I definitely agree with Gen's sentiment, but I think you may be taking things a bit too far, Rockslinger.
 

flubadub

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All of them? I definitely agree with Gen's sentiment, but I think you may be taking things a bit too far, Rockslinger.
Doc, maybe you need to go back to only hiring two legged prostitutes.
The other ones definitely aren't people.
 

Thunderballs

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Unfortunately, until wives and girlfriends come to the realization that SP's are people too, little will change. I think it is mostly "civilian" women who do most of the stigmatizing since they realize that their husband or boyfriend could easily just pay for sex that he might not be getting at home. By stigmatizing SP's these women are playing the last and only defensive card they have against having their hubby realize that he doesn't have to give up sex or put up with her BS until the sweet release of death. Imagine hubby actually realizing that SP's are not vile, disease ridden crack whores who might actually be intelligent, engaging women who may enjoy his company while shagging the hell out of him. Best to keep the stigmatization alive and well to keep hubby from straying too far from home.
 

Rockslinger

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. I think it is mostly "civilian" women who do most of the stigmatizing since they realize that their husband or boyfriend could easily just pay for sex that he might not be getting at home.
True, but 80% of the women in my neighbourhood are lesbos. I think the two lesbos (who wear identical t-shirts) across the street have adopted a baby. The large number of lesbos really reduces the pool of straight women for us men. Therefore, fewer women have to service a greater number of men. In the famous words of Warren Beatty: "Never have so few service so many."
 

BigBlueBobby

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Sex workers are people, too, ad campaign reminds us.

Great campaign. Although it's too bad we have to learn to respect sex workers because they are somebody's family, and not just because they are somebody.
I dont see the intent of that wording to mean that they gauge a persons importance based on their family ties as much as they are just trying to personalize all people by helping us envision our loved ones. It's good advice when dealing with sex workers, cops, doctors, and annoying subway passengers.
 

ready2rock

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Good point, Genevieve.

Every person deserves basic respect.

I hope these interesting ads create some general discussion.


Oh, I agree. Interesting article. I'd probably have written it differently, but basic respect for any individual & their human rights is a good starting theme.

R2R
 

Zombie

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True, but 80% of the women in my neighbourhood are lesbos. I think the two lesbos (who wear identical t-shirts) across the street have adopted a baby. The large number of lesbos really reduces the pool of straight women for us men. Therefore, fewer women have to service a greater number of men. In the famous words of Warren Beatty: "Never have so few service so many."
What the fuck are you talking about?
 

Iconic One

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Ok, I'll just say Ontario.
This campaign is another step towards creating an egalitarian society. We done this on countless issues that I don't need to mention. Just pick any group that has been unfairly placed at the bottom of the social strata in our history First we usually recognize "insert name of stigmatized group here" in familiar terms. This starts the dialogue where society explores the issues and pre-conceptions. Over time the general societal understanding of the stigmatized group increases, becomes more sophisticated, and the issue advances. The issue achieves political currency, celebrities align with it. Laws are changed, rights and privileges are extended, tolerance turns into inclusion, and after a few decades we look back and say "WTF were we thinking before?"

Of course, all people should be recognized as people. But, if that was the case, we wouldn't have the need for campaigns such as this. Canadian society has a pretty good track record overall in recognizing human rights and I guess I'm proud of this. However in some cases, we are very backward and still tied to our colonial roots. I think the good news is that we seem to adapt fairly quickly, we challenge our pre-conceptions, we try to right our wrongs and we are moving towards a more civilized, sophisticated society.

So, I think we should see this campaign as a starting line, rather than the finish. It will be a marathon for sure. But I note a few promising signs - the public's revulsion for Robert Pickton and the real empathy shown towards his victims and their families; Canadian municipalities licensing sex workers (positives and negatives about this for sure); the potential change in the prostitution laws in Ontario. These have all served to raise the issue of prostitution and provide opportunity for different points of view to be heard. Just lately we've seen a front page story in Toronto Life which was favourable. It seems that our society is starting to recognize (internalize) the humanity of this issue, from both the service provider and client points of view, which is an important hurdle in evolving the issue and making it mainstream.

Drawing a parallel between the on-going campaign to de-stigmatize mental illness where politicians, celebrities, athletes, everyday folk describe their experiences with this disease, I could see a day where our community leaders freely admit and talk about their experience as sex workers or as clients. Currently they only admit this when their mug shots are on the front page.

So today we have no real change yet, but it is coming. (sorry about this last sentence - I couldn't resist)
 

flubadub

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Certainly in this day and age, and city, where escorts generally aren't streetwalkers anymore or don't work out of some seedy bar and even brothels, it should be easier to upgrade their social status. Those are some of the lasting images representing the industry, and they would hopefully change, except the new mode of business is now generally hidden from the public. With rented condo's and hotel rooms being the norm now, its way more out of sight, and less a public eyesore.
Media representation may eventually take us there, witness the mainstreaming of porn and porn actors. Who knows if it could happen to the oldest profession.
 

The Fruity Hare

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True, but 80% of the women in my neighbourhood are lesbos. I think the two lesbos (who wear identical t-shirts) across the street have adopted a baby. The large number of lesbos really reduces the pool of straight women for us men. Therefore, fewer women have to service a greater number of men. In the famous words of Warren Beatty: "Never have so few service so many."

What the fuck are you talking about?

Poor rock, always on a tailspin tangent.

Rock, please stay on topic.
 
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