Sex Traffic Part I
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But aren't we?
I have always maintained that if the sex trade is so evil, than it should be wiped out, participants should be subjected to the punishments so sever that no one would ever again think of any kind of involvment without becoming physically ill.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
Aren't we all lesser men, who because of wealth and circumstance exploit the sex trade workers. If we were to believe the writings of many who oppose the sex trade, we are the most debased form of life on this planet, because we dare to purchase "sexual favours".Le Cock Sportif said:We have allowed our back yard to be a playground for all the world's garbage. On top of that they laugh behind our backs and call us lesser men because we pay for it once in a while. Isn't it time to stop supporting them? C'mon guys, you must have just a little bit of ego inside you.
I have always maintained that if the sex trade is so evil, than it should be wiped out, participants should be subjected to the punishments so sever that no one would ever again think of any kind of involvment without becoming physically ill.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
As opposed to the cheerful fluffy side. Was this a doc or a dramatization?maximadude said:It certainly shows the nasty side of a frighteningly inhumane criminal activity.
Fact or Fiction?
I believe it is a doc. If we stop, it will still continue, only it will be fractionally less rewarded. This is the oldest profession in the book, and the honour you seek is not in the code of thieves.
There are many realities we do not see due to filtering done in the news and what reaches us here in North America. Slavery, mass killings, mass poverty, corruption, treachery, etc. Those are things not widely reported.
I believe it is a doc. If we stop, it will still continue, only it will be fractionally less rewarded. This is the oldest profession in the book, and the honour you seek is not in the code of thieves.
There are many realities we do not see due to filtering done in the news and what reaches us here in North America. Slavery, mass killings, mass poverty, corruption, treachery, etc. Those are things not widely reported.
Dramatic Fiction losely based on fact
I watched last night's episode and was appauled by what I saw. It is certianly a wake up call for those, including myself, who have exploited the EE girls here in North America. While the events in this series are probably harsher than the circumstances bringing the girls here to Toronto, I dont think they are too far stretched to call them sensationalism. I am basing my opinion on conversations I have had with a couple of the girls I spoke with.
The series is tying big multinational business into the profiteering. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
I watched last night's episode and was appauled by what I saw. It is certianly a wake up call for those, including myself, who have exploited the EE girls here in North America. While the events in this series are probably harsher than the circumstances bringing the girls here to Toronto, I dont think they are too far stretched to call them sensationalism. I am basing my opinion on conversations I have had with a couple of the girls I spoke with.
The series is tying big multinational business into the profiteering. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
The Natashas
The CBC dramatization was based on Victor Malerik's book The Natashas. It is well worth the read...while you get some of the emotional horror from the dramatization...the scale of the operations and the business practices of selling the girls contracts and moving them about etc. really come out in the book. It is big business...it is nasty...and it does give one pause to think about using EE services. It should also be said that similar rings exist in the Asian community and can be found in Toronto.
The CBC dramatization was based on Victor Malerik's book The Natashas. It is well worth the read...while you get some of the emotional horror from the dramatization...the scale of the operations and the business practices of selling the girls contracts and moving them about etc. really come out in the book. It is big business...it is nasty...and it does give one pause to think about using EE services. It should also be said that similar rings exist in the Asian community and can be found in Toronto.
Shades said:. It is big business...it is nasty...and it does give one pause to think about using EE services. It should also be said that similar rings exist in the Asian community and can be found in Toronto.
Is it not better to support the EE services so at least the girls make some money . A boycot would not work unless it was 100 % and you know that will never happen.
Point taken boo.booboobear said:Is it not better to support the EE services so at least the girls make some money . A boycot would not work unless it was 100 % and you know that will never happen.
I'm not sure how much the girls get to keep...I think they get room and board and all the money goes to pay off their "loans" for flying over here and other trumped up expenses.
A 100% boycott would probably be impossible to expect in all their markets eg. Japan, Saudi Arabia, US etc. Anything less probably wouldn't have any effect.
I guess it just becomes a personal choice whether you knowingly support this type of operation in anyway. I made the mistake once in an Asian operation...I won't knowingly make that mistake again.
Blame rests squarely on the lawmakers
If sex industries could operate legally and in the open, 90 percent of the criminal involvment would disappear in a few years.
When you go to a shoe store, hair salon or jewellery store in the mall, you know you're not dealing with mafia and the people serving you are not hostages. The same thing would happen if sex services could operate with the same freedom and have nothing to hide from police or regulators.
Our laws only push people into the arms of unsavory elements because those elements are used to taking the risks and putting up the money for grey and black market activities. It's a self-made axis of evil.
Take this away from the thugs, and they'd be left with only a small niche in the lowest segment of the market, the money wouldn't be there for the big players to remain in the business - just like nobody provides black-market haircuts or watch repairs.
If sex industries could operate legally and in the open, 90 percent of the criminal involvment would disappear in a few years.
When you go to a shoe store, hair salon or jewellery store in the mall, you know you're not dealing with mafia and the people serving you are not hostages. The same thing would happen if sex services could operate with the same freedom and have nothing to hide from police or regulators.
Our laws only push people into the arms of unsavory elements because those elements are used to taking the risks and putting up the money for grey and black market activities. It's a self-made axis of evil.
Take this away from the thugs, and they'd be left with only a small niche in the lowest segment of the market, the money wouldn't be there for the big players to remain in the business - just like nobody provides black-market haircuts or watch repairs.
Happy Ending to a morality movie?
If the writers and movie makers were trying to change the way people think and behave, they should not have created a happy ending to last nights show. Basically, the girl ends up meeting this nice lawyer guy, gets her child back and in the end will end up having a better life as a result of being a victim of the sex trafficing business.
If the writers and movie makers were trying to change the way people think and behave, they should not have created a happy ending to last nights show. Basically, the girl ends up meeting this nice lawyer guy, gets her child back and in the end will end up having a better life as a result of being a victim of the sex trafficing business.
Shades said:Point taken boo.
I'm not sure how much the girls get to keep...I think they get room and board and all the money goes to pay off their "loans" for flying over here and other trumped up expenses.
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This is a multi faceted problem. Sometimes I think the girls here that say they are enslaved etc are somehow exagerrating. In other countries not so much . I think a lot of the problem though comes from the fact that the laws are not strict enough for those living off the avails. If a girl here is threatened she should be able to go to the police and be protected and the people holding her should be jailed for 15 yrs then maybe it would die out.
I think cops in other countries are paid off.
