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Galseigin

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It's strange. Israeli forces state what they are doing and you immediately consider them to be lying but when a terrorist entity states a tunnel to the edge of a village was only to target military you take it as gospel.

And if calling Islamic Jihad a terrorist entity is racist then Canada, the EU, the US, and other western style democracies must be racist.
There were other war crimes committed by both sides, but previously the tunnels were not used for terrorism, according to the UN.
Calling those digging them 'terrorists' is dehumanization of Palestinians.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-report-tunnels-into-israel-legitimately-targeted-idf/

That's based on a legitimate source.
Terrorists is right, never mind land, they want the Christians and Jews out of there. With a name like Islamic Jihad LOL The new Hamas’ leader in the Gaza strip has said just last week the Islamist group is focused on wiping out the state of Israel, and has no intention of disarming.
The UN has zero credibility and is owned by Muslim countries.
 

basketcase

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Ignoring his ridiculous focus on Muslims (like your ridiculous focus on Israel), the HRC is composed of many nasty dictatorships who's main goal in being there is to focus attention on other countries. A rights organization featuring the governments of Qatar, UAE, China, Egypt, Iraq, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, Congo, Venezuela, and Burundi has no credibility.
 

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Again, you automatically accept accusations against Israel but you are happy to accept what a terrorist group says.
Your lying is getting very weasel like.
You quoted me as saying 'There were other war crimes....'

The full sentence says 'There were other war crimes committed by both sides, but previously the tunnels were not used for terrorism, according to the UN.'

Which exposes what you claimed as a really pathetic lie.
 

basketcase

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Your lying is getting very weasel like.....
Yep, lying. :der: The report specifically mentioned tunnels built by Hamas. This tunnel was built by a different terrorist group.

You automatically believe accusations against Israel, no matter the how heinous the source. For example you happily believe a report commissioned by a bunch of human rights abusing dictators but claim that when Hamas members claimed credit for kidnapping Israeli school kids, you claimed there was no evidence it was Hamas.

PIJ, like Hamas is considered a terrorist entity by Canada, the EU, and the US. It was a tunnel built by terrorists.
 

Frankfooter

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Yep, lying. :der: The report specifically mentioned tunnels built by Hamas. This tunnel was built by a different terrorist group.

You automatically believe accusations against Israel, no matter the how heinous the source. For example you happily believe a report commissioned by a bunch of human rights abusing dictators but claim that when Hamas members claimed credit for kidnapping Israeli school kids, you claimed there was no evidence it was Hamas.

PIJ, like Hamas is considered a terrorist entity by Canada, the EU, and the US. It was a tunnel built by terrorists.
I'm backing the findings of the UN, HRW and Amnesty.
Not your trolling.
 

basketcase

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I'm backing the findings of the UN, HRW and Amnesty.
Not your trolling.
The findings that say Hamas is a terror group guilty of crimes against humanity and massive abuses of their own people?


And seriously, how does a terror group like Islamic Jihad (or Hamas) spending money to attack Israelis help the Palestinian people in any way?
 

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The findings that say Hamas is a terror group guilty of crimes against humanity and massive abuses of their own people?


And seriously, how does a terror group like Islamic Jihad (or Hamas) spending money to attack Israelis help the Palestinian people in any way?
How does Israeli colonization and apartheid help anybody?
But you keep backing it.


1. Human rights are universal and indivisible and should be upheld without exception. This is as applicable in Israel and Occupied Palestine as it is elsewhere.
2. Palestinians and Israelis alike have the right to peaceful and secure lives.
3. Peace and stability require the willingness of all parties to the conflict to comply with international law.
4. There is no justification for any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, anti-Arab racism or lslamaphobia in any circumstance.
5. The battle against anti-Semitism is vital and is undermined whenever opposition to Israeli government policies is automatically branded as anti-Semitic.
 

Frankfooter

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Your avoidance of the question shows quite clearly that your 5 claims are just one-sided bullshit.
You just won't agree to anything that would criticize Israel at all.



1. Human rights are universal and indivisible and should be upheld without exception. This is as applicable in Israel and Occupied Palestine as it is elsewhere.
2. Palestinians and Israelis alike have the right to peaceful and secure lives.
3. Peace and stability require the willingness of all parties to the conflict to comply with international law.
4. There is no justification for any form of racism, including anti-Semitism, anti-Arab racism or lslamaphobia in any circumstance.
5. The battle against anti-Semitism is vital and is undermined whenever opposition to Israeli government policies is automatically branded as anti-Semitic.
 

nottyboi

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Why is it silly to destroy a tunnel built by terrorists crossing from Palestinian controlled territory to beside an Israeli civilian center?
because you can arrest the people responsible and dismantle the organization vs just killing a few people....
 

nottyboi

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I guess the Nazis used to kill jews tunneling out of prisons as well.. so I guess we have come full circle. They even called them terrorists as well!!!
 

Frankfooter

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I guess the Nazis used to kill jews tunneling out of prisons as well.. so I guess we have come full circle. They even called them terrorists as well!!!
Sort of like the latest history of the occupation, written by an Israeli.
https://www.amazon.ca/Biggest-Prison-Earth-Occupied-Territories/dp/1851685871

Or like Israeli's calling Gaza the Ghetto.
It's Been a Decade. Open Gaza, the Palestinian Ghetto
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.719953
Unfortunately basketcase will probably claim its anti-semitic to post Jewish views that disagree with his.
 

basketcase

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You just won't agree to anything that would criticize Israel at all.
You are a joke.

I criticize Netanyahu and Likud (and Jewish home more so). I am opposed to the settlement lobby. I think Olmert's peace offer should be remade.

Meanwhile you keep making excuses for Hamas terrorism and violence. Even worse you keep justifying Palestinian violence while pretending to be pro-peace. But I'll goive you another chance:
How does a terror group like Islamic Jihad (or Hamas) spending money to attack Israelis help the Palestinian people in any way?
 

basketcase

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because you can arrest the people responsible and dismantle the organization vs just killing a few people....
Since neither the PA nor Hamas are willing to arrest their terrorists, it looks like you are suggesting Israel invade Gaza to do so.
 

nottyboi

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Since neither the PA nor Hamas are willing to arrest their terrorists, it looks like you are suggesting Israel invade Gaza to do so.
The NAZIs would say the same about the jews they killed with respect to the Jews they put in charge of their ghettos
 

basketcase

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The NAZIs would say the same about the jews they killed with respect to the Jews they put in charge of their ghettos
Your comparisons are farcical. Hamas and Fatah CELEBRATE terrorists and pay them salaries. They don't arrest them.
 

Frankfooter

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You are a joke.

I criticize Netanyahu and Likud (and Jewish home more so). I am opposed to the settlement lobby. I think Olmert's peace offer should be remade.

Meanwhile you keep making excuses for Hamas terrorism and violence. Even worse you keep justifying Palestinian violence while pretending to be pro-peace. But I'll goive you another chance:
How does a terror group like Islamic Jihad (or Hamas) spending money to attack Israelis help the Palestinian people in any way?
Netanyahu stated he will never give back any land or let the two state solution happen.
That leaves BDS and violence as the two main options left for illegally occupied Palestinians.

Its a good thing most support international actions and non-violence.

And as for the settlements, they are all illegal.
Yet you keep claiming that Israel will keep most of them, which is a war crime you are supporting.
 
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