Sears Canada

[FAST]

Where did I post ANYTHING suggesting I have been checking your posts?!!!??? Please quote.

What I'm referring to is that you stated that there "must be" brick and mortar stores and you never explained why there "must be" brick and mortar stores.

You won't waver from that, and that's the lack of changed that I am referring to.

And no this is not a pot and kettle situation because unlike you I am willing to change.

Maybe we need more "...," so you can understand us.

Actually I did explain why there has to be brick and mortar,....and a possible solution to stop losing them at the current rate,...but I guess one would have to actually read my posts when researching all of them.

So what are you,...the pot or the kettle,...???

 

[fuji]

Actually I did explain why there has to be brick and mortar,....and a possible solution to stop losing them at the current rate,...but I guess one would have to actually read my posts when researching all of them.

So what are you,...the pot or the kettle,...???

You mean like Whole Foods stores?

 

[FAST]

You mean like Whole Foods stores?

,....:rofl:

 

[malata]

Canada is now a two tier society. Public "service" employees with job security, great pay, benefits and pensions. All financed with public money. Then there is the rest of us.

Much like France just before the Revolution.

What happened to the 'Productive Class'?

 

[frankcastle]

Actually I did explain why there has to be brick and mortar,....and a possible solution to stop losing them at the current rate,...but I guess one would have to actually read my posts when researching all of them.

So what are you,...the pot or the kettle,...???

i found your solution of a discount for brick and mortar stores..... who will pay for that discount? why should a failing business model be propped up with aid?

as for your reason for why there must be brick and mortr stores.... i cant find it. please restate, quote or tell me which post it is in...... never mind found it.

Emotiva is a company that sells speakers and audio equipment without dusplaying their goods. A good return policy works for them. There are many online custom guitar makers with no showrooms. These are just a couple examples of people selling things that one would assume should require a show room and yet they succeed.

Anyways sorry i missed your lame explanation.

 

[FAST]

The Amazon effect,...

i found your solution of a discount for brick and mortar stores..... who will pay for that discount? why should a failing business model be propped up with aid?

as for your reason for why there must be brick and mortr stores.... i cant find it. please restate, quote or tell me which post it is in...... never mind found it.

Emotiva is a company that sells speakers and audio equipment without dusplaying their goods. A good return policy works for them. There are many online custom guitar makers with no showrooms. These are just a couple examples of people selling things that one would assume should require a show room and yet they succeed.

Anyways sorry i missed your lame explanation.

I can't help it if you don't understand basic retailing concepts,...your problem,...not mine.

If you want to buy audio equipment sight unseen online,...be my guest.

As far as the "discount",...obviously from the distributers, importers, manufactures, etc., who would actually want to have their products displayed,...but I guess that is a bit complicated for some.

OH,...and you may want to email Michael Dell,...and tell him he got it all wrong when he decided to start selling his products from brick and mortar,...and not just online.

 

[fuji]

I can't help it if you don't understand basic retailing concepts,...your problem,...not mine.

If you want to buy audio equipment sight unseen online,...be my guest.

As far as the "discount",...obviously from the distributers, importers, manufactures, etc., who would actually want to have their products displayed,...but I guess that is a bit complicated for some.

OH,...and you may want to email Michael Dell,...and tell him he got it all wrong when he decided to start selling his products from brick and mortar,...and not just online.

Audio and computer equipment is one of the easiest thing to buy sight unseen. You can pretty much make up your mind from reviews and specs, and if you get it wrong is easy to return.

It's things like clothing that are harder to judge without actually trying on and seeing how it looks on your own body.

 

[FAST]

Audio and computer equipment is one of the easiest thing to buy sight unseen. You can pretty much make up your mind from reviews and specs, and if you get it wrong is easy to return.

It's things like clothing that are harder to judge without actually trying on and seeing how it looks on your own body.

Specs on speakers,...pretty much useless,...unless one is buying speakers to listen to MP3 players on,...then who cares, anything would be fine.

 

[frankcastle]

I can't help it if you don't understand basic retailing concepts,...your problem,...not mine.

If you want to buy audio equipment sight unseen online,...be my guest.

As far as the "discount",...obviously from the distributers, importers, manufactures, etc., who would actually want to have their products displayed,...but I guess that is a bit complicated for some.

OH,...and you may want to email Michael Dell,...and tell him he got it all wrong when he decided to start selling his products from brick and mortar,...and not just online.

I've provided you with examples of successful online companies like Emotiva which sells speakers and other audio equipment quite successfully. Orb is another one. By doing so it invalidates your statement that a business "must" have a brick and mortar site.

As for the discount thing..... why do any of those people have to take a loss when they don't need Sears? When Kreseges, Shoprite, Consumers Distrubuting, Biway, Bargain Harolds, KMart disappeared were we pining for a product we could no longer buy?

 

[frankcastle]

Audio and computer equipment is one of the easiest thing to buy sight unseen. You can pretty much make up your mind from reviews and specs, and if you get it wrong is easy to return.

It's things like clothing that are harder to judge without actually trying on and seeing how it looks on your own body.

FAST is just too stubborn to admit that there are a lot of online only audio companies and they do cater to audiophiles.

I also disagree with clothes I have a buddy who orders really expensive designer clothes from ebay knowing he could never afford it off the rack. I can reliably buy shoes online.

 

[FAST]

FAST is just too stubborn to admit that there are a lot of online only audio companies and they do cater to audiophiles.

I also disagree with clothes I have a buddy who orders really expensive designer clothes from ebay knowing he could never afford it off the rack. I can reliably buy shoes online.

Believe it or not frank,...this thread is NOT about what can be purchased on line,...buying online has being going on for a few years now,...you can even buy sex on line,...

But the continual lose of brick and mortar that display products.

Just how long do you think any high end audio speaker manufacturer or clothing manufacturers would exist if there was NO opportunity for the public access of these products.

Talk about being stubborn,...and I'm being kind here,...

Does your buddy model the used clothes he bought from ebay for you,...???

 

[frankcastle]

Believe it or not frank,...this thread is NOT about what can be purchased on line,...buying online has being going on for a few years now,...you can even buy sex on line,...

But the continual lose of brick and mortar that display products.

Just how long do you think any high end audio speaker manufacturer or clothing manufacturers would exist if there was NO opportunity for the public access of these products.

Talk about being stubborn,...and I'm being kind here,...

Does your buddy model the used clothes he bought from ebay for you,...???

The fact that companies thrive without brick and mortar prove my point. Emotiva is just one of many companies that started doing this before amazon took off. now the people are comfortable with buying online their longevity will not be dependent on having brick and mortar.

You are just refusing to admit that online shopping is here to stay.

Having a good return policy for a online store is far better than the additional costs of a brick and mortar.

Look at things like QVC and Home shopping network.... they are other examples of how you can do very well without brick and mortar.

Advertising, good reviews, good customer service allows a company to out compete brick and mortar options.

 

[SkyRider]

Liquidation sale. Any bargains?

 

[FAST]

The fact that companies thrive without brick and mortar prove my point. Emotiva is just one of many companies that started doing this before amazon took off. now the people are comfortable with buying online their longevity will not be dependent on having brick and mortar.

You are just refusing to admit that online shopping is here to stay.

Having a good return policy for a online store is far better than the additional costs of a brick and mortar.

Look at things like QVC and Home shopping network.... they are other examples of how you can do very well without brick and mortar.

Advertising, good reviews, good customer service allows a company to out compete brick and mortar options.

Again you miss the point.

I'll try and make it simple for YA frank,...what do you "think" would eventually happen to the retail industry ,...if tomorrow,...there was suddenly no brick and mortar,...???

- I have never said that online companies can't exist,...but that they can exist,... simply because brick and mortar does.

- The Home shopping network,...Fricken hilarious,...

- Brick and mortar can't compete because they are real buildings,...with real people,...and hands on, eyes on,...ears on displays.

- "Having a good return policy for a online store is far better than the additional costs of a brick and mortar.",....and just the what the hell does that even mean,...???

 

[FAST]

Liquidation sale. Any bargains?

The SO bought two pairs of shoes,...$20.00 AND $29.00,...AFTER TRYING THEM ON.

I bought two tee shirts,...for $6.95 each,...I didn't try them on,...

 

[SkyRider]

The SO bought two pairs of shoes,...$20.00 AND $29.00,...AFTER TRYING THEM ON.

I bought two tee shirts,...for $6.95 each,...I didn't try them on,...

All sales final? No return, no refund, no exchange?

 

[FAST]

All sales final? No return, no refund, no exchange?

Sorry, this was bought at a store that is not closing,...so returns are ok.

 

[frankcastle]

Again you miss the point.

I'll try and make it simple for YA frank,...what do you "think" would eventually happen to the retail industry ,...if tomorrow,...there was suddenly no brick and mortar,...???

- I have never said that online companies can't exist,...but that they can exist,... simply because brick and mortar does.

- The Home shopping network,...Fricken hilarious,...

- Brick and mortar can't compete because they are real buildings,...with real people,...and hands on, eyes on,...ears on displays.

- "Having a good return policy for a online store is far better than the additional costs of a brick and mortar.",....and just the what the hell does that even mean,...???

If all brick and mortars disappeared people would be forced to buy things online. Do you think people would stop buying the things that Sears offered if they all disappeared?

-home shopping network reports profits of over 30% each quarter since 2008. Andrew Leesman who sells stuff on the HSN has a networth of 20 million. In 2015 they sold over 600 million dollars worth of inventory. For the last 5 years the stock has been sitting at 40 USD per share. Is that funny to you? QVC is an even bigger company. In fact QVC just bought HSN for 2.6 billion USD.

-people buy cars, homes, clothes, instruments, high end home theartres and audiophile equipment online..... what more proof do you need that seeing the physical product is not as important as you think? Heck people will buy homes just based on architectural drawings.

-as for the "what does that even mean"..... it means there are ways that online companies can provide services to mitigate the need for customers to see the product.... and the fact that online shopping is on the rise only proves that the importance of a physical product is dwindling. In fact it is arguable that it was ever necessary.... people happily ordered from TV, magazine ads, catalogues for decades prior to online shopping.

-Unfortunately you bought into the rhetoric that CEOs of retail chains have fed you to convince shareholders to not panic. Hell some people will marry a person sight unseen.... do you really think it is that important to try on a shirt?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/76-of-canadians-shopped-online-last-year-canada-post-says-1.3070651

76% of canadians shopped online in 2015

15% shop online once per week

These numbers are climbing. By 2019 it is predicted that almost 10% of all retail sales will be online to the tune of 39 billion.

 

[SkyRider]

No shoplifting at online stores.

 

[FAST]

If all brick and mortars disappeared people would be forced to buy things online. Do you think people would stop buying the things that Sears offered if they all disappeared?

-home shopping network reports profits of over 30% each quarter since 2008. Andrew Leesman who sells stuff on the HSN has a networth of 20 million. In 2015 they sold over 600 million dollars worth of inventory. For the last 5 years the stock has been sitting at 40 USD per share. Is that funny to you? QVC is an even bigger company. In fact QVC just bought HSN for 2.6 billion USD.

-people buy cars, homes, clothes, instruments, high end home theartres and audiophile equipment online..... what more proof do you need that seeing the physical product is not as important as you think? Heck people will buy homes just based on architectural drawings.

-as for the "what does that even mean"..... it means there are ways that online companies can provide services to mitigate the need for customers to see the product.... and the fact that online shopping is on the rise only proves that the importance of a physical product is dwindling. In fact it is arguable that it was ever necessary.... people happily ordered from TV, magazine ads, catalogues for decades prior to online shopping.

-Unfortunately you bought into the rhetoric that CEOs of retail chains have fed you to convince shareholders to not panic. Hell some people will marry a person sight unseen.... do you really think it is that important to try on a shirt?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/76-of-canadians-shopped-online-last-year-canada-post-says-1.3070651

76% of canadians shopped online in 2015

15% shop online once per week

These numbers are climbing. By 2019 it is predicted that almost 10% of all retail sales will be online to the tune of 39 billion.

A few logical comments,...and I'm done.

- I have never stated once that people don't buy on line.

- "home shopping network",...yep,...lots of obese channel flippers do support that joke.

- have you EVER considered that shoppers just might go to a brick and mortar, to check out an article,...then come home and buy it on line,...simply because its cheaper.

- Online Walmart has now copied amazon's methods of listing various suppliers for an article,...Walmart isn't even stocking the stuff,...ever wonder why they had to copy amozon,... did you even know,...???

- Once again,...to think that the retail system could exist without any brick and mortar,...is rather short sighted.
- You example of your boy friend buying designer clothes on line because he couldn't afford to shop at an actual store,...just how long do you think that line of clothes would exist if the stores that sold them,...ceased to exist,...any guess,...???

- Marry some one without trying her out 1st,...not a chance,...