Sealed Indictment - Who Do You Think Got Charged?

Who do you think got charged?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Manafort

    Votes: 12 80.0%
  • Podesta

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Flynn

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 6.7%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .

Aardvark154

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The charges are: Conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading statements related to the US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), and failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Yes, I heard that the first charges have been laid against Trump's team in the investigation on Russian collusion in the election.
As noted in the wired article posted above, this is the standard way they start laying charges in larger cases
Yes, but Trump didnt get charged, which is what I've been saying for the past year now.

I'm glad you agree I was right
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The charges are: Conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading statements related to the US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), and failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts
Those are pretty serious charges. How much prison time are they looking at??
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, but Trump didnt get charged, which is what I've been saying for the past year now.

I'm glad you agree I was right
Not yet, nobody thought that Trump would be the first to be charged.
Do you really think that's the last charges we'll see in the Russian collusion case?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Not yet, nobody thought that Trump would be the first to be charged.
Do you really think that's the last charges we'll see in the Russian collusion case?
You seem to be hard of hearing, let me reiterate, Trump will not be charged nor impeached over RussiaGate
 

Butler1000

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None of the charges are in relation to supposed collusion.

Ty Cobb stated all documents requested by the investigation had nothing to do with the campaign.

I will preempt you Frankie. Unless Manafort can cooberate with a lot of unambiguous physical evidence his word alone will not result in any deal. I'm doubting there will be any turning of him.
 

Butler1000

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Sure, and the pee dossier is nonsense.
You may need to start using all caps soon, like Trump.
'DO SOMETHING'.
It is. Even the authors are now trying to get away from it. They claim it was never supposed to be released but was nothing more than background.

Too funny.
 

jcpro

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Mueller briefed Obama and Trump about it and months later interviewed Christopher Steele.
And now the charges are starting to be laid.
Its the yellow trickle down effect now....
So, Mueller presented unvetted document to the President of the United States and the President Elect. That really says everything about him, doesn't it? Just wait for when it comes out that the Dossier was the basis for the FISA warrants. The shit will really hit the fan. A special prosecutor will go after the FBI, I predict.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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None of the charges are in relation to supposed collusion.

Ty Cobb stated all documents requested by the investigation had nothing to do with the campaign
There you go, so it had nothing to with Trump.

The Libtard witch-hunt fails again
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Mueller briefed Obama and Trump about it and months later interviewed Christopher Steele.
And now the charges are starting to be laid.
Its the yellow trickle down effect now....
So are you saying Trump will eventually get charged (or impeached), or not??

Simple yes/no question please
 

Butler1000

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Mueller briefed Obama and Trump about it and months later interviewed Christopher Steele.
And now the charges are starting to be laid.
Its the yellow trickle down effect now....
Now you are mixing it up. It was Comey that did the briefings.

And no charges in relation to the dossier. None.

But the fact the Dems PAID Steele for this could really come back to bite them on the ass. I wonder if that little Arizona tarmac meeting is involved......
 

Frankfooter

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Now you are mixing it up. It was Comey that did the briefings.

And no charges in relation to the dossier. None.

But the fact the Dems PAID Steele for this could really come back to bite them on the ass. I wonder if that little Arizona tarmac meeting is involved......
My error, it was Comey who briefed Trump before Trump fired him to try to stall the investigation.
And since the republicans also paid for the pee dossier, you don't think that'll bite them in the balls?

I would expect that Trump won't get charged for treason, as those charges are hard to make, but maybe obstruction of justice. Donald Jr and Kushner might get some form of charges.
Flynn and Carter, quite likely.
Oh, and former Trump advisor Papadopolous pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI.


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Frankfooter

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Papadopoulos admitted to lying to the FBI about Trump's campaign trying to collude with the Russians:
This should get the rest of the team, including Trump, looking for depends.
On or about April 22, 2016, the Russian MF A Connection sent defendant
PAPADOPOULOS an email thanking him "for an extensive talk" and proposing "to meet in
London or in Moscow." Defendant PAPADOPOULOS replied by suggesting that "we set one
up here in London with the Ambassador as well to discuss a process moving forward."
13. On or about April 25, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS emailed a senior
policy advisor for the Campaign (the "Senior Policy Advisor"): "The Russian government has an
open invitation by Putin for Mr. Trump to meet him when he is ready []. The advantage of being
in London is that these governments tend to speak a bit more openly in ' neutral' cities."
PAPADOPOULOS Learns that the Russians Have "Dirt " on Clinton
14. On or about April 26, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for
breakfast at a London hotel. During this meeting, the Professor told defendant
PAPADOPOULOS that he had just returned from a trip to Moscow where he had met with highlevel
Russian government officials. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that on
that trip he (the Professor) learned that the Russians had obtained "dirt" on then-candidate
Clinton. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS, as defendant PAPADOPOULOS
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later described to the FBI, that "They [the Russians] have dirt on her"; "the Russians had emails
of Clinton"; "they have thousands of emails."
15. Following that conversation, defendant PAPADOPOULOS continued to
correspond with Campaign officials, and continued to communicate with the Professor and the
Russian MF A Connection, in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the
Russian government.
a. For example, the day after his meeting at the hotel with the Professor, on
or about April 27, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS emailed the Senior Policy Advisor:
"Have some interesting messages coming in from Moscow about a trip when the time is right."
b. Also on or about April 27, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS emailed a
high-ranking official of the Campaign (the "High-Ranking Campaign Official") "to discuss
Russia's interest in hosting Mr. Trump. Have been receiving a lot of calls over the last month
about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right."
c. On or about April 30, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS thanked the
Professor for his "critical help" in arranging a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian
government, and remarked: " It's history making if it happens."
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
 

Frankfooter

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Check the Papadoulous admission above, Oagre.
These are starting to look serious, he's pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about trying to arrange meetings with the Russians to get 'dirt' on Clinton.
At minimum Donald Jr is going to be in trouble, Kushner is also likely caught up in this.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
 
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