Screening.

Samantha Jones

Samantha Jones

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I like a social date first if it's allowed. Put us both at ease. Having said that I would never give my business e-mail out......or my real number.....or real name....or real anything....or pay deposits..... We're the criminals now. Not a chance I'm mixing "real world" with this one.

That YouTube video is pure fantasy......
 
See, this is the big problem with C-36. Since it criminalizes the purchase of sex, it makes it very risky for us, as customers, to give out our personal information. All it takes is one bad girl who decides to blackmail us, or one girl getting upset and deciding to out us or report us, and our lives are ruined. We face the social stigma, we face possible career repercussions, possible criminal charges, the end of our marriage/relationship, etc.

I very much understand the need for screening, you ladies have no idea who we are, you have no idea what we might do, your profession puts you in a very vulnerable position and sex workers are disproportionately targeted for violent crimes. Obviously, there need to be precautions taken on your end to make sure you’re not getting bad dates. I support your right to screen potential clients, but even then, I’m quite hesitant to give out my personal information. As I said, it only takes one. It’s kind of an impossible situation. You can’t screen as thoroughly as I’m sure many would like to, because then you won’t get any business, and we can’t give out as much information as you’d like, because the personal risk to us is immense.

I do go through screening, though there are some things I’m unwilling to do and avoid ladies who require those things, because I understand why it’s necessary, but I don’t like it. I’ve been lucky thus far, but every time, I’m essentially putting my life in your hands and trusting you won’t absolutely shatter me, and that’s a tough thing to ask of anyone. I guess it’s fair, because the same thing is basically happening on your part with every new client you take, but still, no one should have to be put in that position.

This is a major reason why legalization and regulation is so necessary. It makes things far less risky for both parties.
 
I am not sure what posts from other thread the OP
referred to where posters were concerned with *any*
type of screening. As far as I know people are only
concerned with any type of screening that requires
a client to provide legal document for verification of
his real name plus access to information pertinent
to his professional activities which could potentially
violate his privacy. I think any reasonable clients
would expect some kind of screening for the safety
of the escort. Personally I think it is prudent for the SP
to exercise extra precaution with a 1st time client.
 
If a lady wants to screen that's fine. But I will NEVER give out personal information to someone I have never met. Yes there are lots of stalkers out there,but that goes both ways.If you want mine,I want yours.
 
Samantha Jones said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqteXN8EQio

ok, but we love money and you love seeing us. obviously info is confidential. Otherwise you could see a lady of lower class that doesn't require, I suppose. It used to be more risky for us too but we still did it. I find it can be even tough to get gents to provide references.
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So only the "classy" screen to your satisfaction? Nice!

I see many many women and none of them know my real identity except for 3 regulars I've seen for years. Each one of these ladies I've seen have in my opinion as much class as any other ladies if not more!

I also do not love seeing someone who is has a fake name and number but expects to know my real identity and number.
 
Samantha Jones said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqteXN8EQio

ok, but we love money and you love seeing us. obviously info is confidential. Otherwise you could see a lady of lower class that doesn't require, I suppose. It used to be more risky for us too but we still did it. I find it can be even tough to get gents to provide references.
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So what puts you in the "high class" category? I've seen some of your twitter posts so lets hear your reasoning.
 
I think screening depends on what information is asked and what is given.
Think it is also different for Indie sps as opposed to Agencies.
You become a regular and they get to know you.
Agencies are more formal.

But, if you want to give a reference to a new Sp, some regular sps might not be comfortable you seeing someone new.
There is competition among the ladies.

I don't know the answer, just putting this out there.
LD
 
Samantha Jones said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqteXN8EQio

ok, but we love money and you love seeing us. obviously info is confidential. Otherwise you could see a lady of lower class that doesn't require, I suppose. It used to be more risky for us too but we still did it. I find it can be even tough to get gents to provide references.
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Yeah, see, asking for references is perfectly reasonable to me. I understand some people may not be able to get references, because maybe the ladies they’ve seen don’t give references, or maybe they took a hiatus and haven’t seen anyone recently, but if they are able to provide references, I don’t see why they wouldn’t. It doesn’t even take any effort on their part. That’s pretty strange.

The problem here is you say that the information we give you is obviously confidential. Well, how do we know that? There was a lady on here just a couple months ago who was otherwise well-reviewed who was outing people she’d felt had “wasted her time” on Twitter. Not even people who’d harmed her or done anything particularly serious, just people who’d booked with her and cancelled a few times (which is admittedly shitty behavior, but still). I’m not accusing you of anything, I’m sure most girls would keep our information confidential, but like I said before, it only takes one. We give our info to the wrong lady one time and we could be facing prison time, losing our job, losing our family, etc. This is definitely a case where one bad apple ruins the lot.
 
bazokajoe said:
So what puts you in the "high class" category? I've seen some of your twitter posts so lets hear your reasoning.
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Basically she hires a pro photographer, puts together a website, and then suddenly she is "high class."

Samantha Jones used to be charging $400/hour....then I noticed she dropped her price to $300/hour. I guess she realized she priced herself out the damn market!

She does amateur porn as well, and I bought some of it. It was ok. I can watch better quality stuff on Pornhub for free however.

Notice how she doesn't pay for Advertising, yet we are commenting on a thread she started. Methinks she just started this thread for attention.

Another SP commented on another thread how she believes the agency model is going to die out, as Indies are raising the bar and asking for higher standards. I don't think that will ever happen.

As long as there is women willing to work for agency pay, the agencies will continue to exist; and the agencies business model caters to convenience, because there are guys like me who just want to get laid when they are downtown, and don't care for paying for an "experience" with a "high class" lady such as Samantha Jones.

ok, but we love money and you love seeing us. obviously info is confidential. Otherwise you could see a lady of lower class that doesn't require, I suppose.
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So, Samantha Jones, are you suggesting that all women who choose to work for agency pay, or charge less than you, or don't screen to the extent you do are lower class? I don't think that statement is very supportive of the "sisterhood".

Samantha, you've been in this business for a while, and I know you are just doing your best to market yourself and stay relevant, because both you and we know you can't be doing this forever. But don't come on here and turn your nose down to your peers and say you are "high class" and they are "low class" because some of your peers choose to conduct business differently than you do.
 
If a provider insists on "screening" it is her right.

However, I would say, "sure, but I will need to see your passport so I know your real identity as well" .

Fairness is a two way street.

No?
 
Samantha Jones said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqteXN8EQio

ok, but we love money and you love seeing us. obviously info is confidential. Otherwise you could see a lady of lower class that doesn't require, I suppose. It used to be more risky for us too but we still did it. I find it can be even tough to get gents to provide references.
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It works both ways and I don't mean to be sarcastic. Is it acceptable to an sp to provide references of her clients to someone trying to validate her identity and quality of her services?
 
james t kirk said:
If a provider insists on "screening" it is her right.

However, I would say, "sure, but I will need to see your passport so I know your real identity as well" .

Fairness is a two way street.

No?
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First off, I won't provide my identity to anyone in the business. Enough risk of identity theft/fraud, privacy breaches etc with high security websites like Facebook that get hacked. No way am I trusting that my hobbying info gets hacked from a non-tech person who might use "password123" to protect her clients.

I do however respect their decision to ask for references, identity of the client etc. So I miss out on any who require this.


Having said all that.... I don't see the need for a client to know the true identity of an SP. Nothing to do with "fairness" or balance, just don't see the need. Typical indy SP has reviews and a client can make a reasonable decision based on those. ve? What purpose would knowing their real name serve?
 
SchlongConery said:
Having said all that.... I don't see the need for a client to know the true identity of an SP. Nothing to do with "fairness" or balance, just don't see the need. Typical indy SP has reviews and a client can make a reasonable decision based on those. ve? What purpose would knowing their real name serve?
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I understand your point. There is no need for a client to
'screen' the escort reciprocally. But I think the point of
asking the escort to disclose her identity is just to illustrate
that a client might not be willing to be screened
the way the escort wanted just like the escort wouldn't
feel comfortable to let her client know who she is.
 
SchlongConery said:
First off, I won't provide my identity to anyone in the business. Enough risk of identity theft/fraud, privacy breaches etc with high security websites like Facebook that get hacked. No way am I trusting that my hobbying info gets hacked from a non-tech person who might use "password123" to protect her clients.

I do however respect their decision to ask for references, identity of the client etc. So I miss out on any who require this.


Having said all that.... I don't see the need for a client to know the true identity of an SP. Nothing to do with "fairness" or balance, just don't see the need. Typical indy SP has reviews and a client can make a reasonable decision based on those. ve? What purpose would knowing their real name serve?
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Did you guys ever consider the fact that SPs that collect this sensitive info would be sharing this with someone at the outset in the event something were to happen to them. So immediately somebody else aside from the SP has your info and how careful are they going to be with your info. Plus the element of blackmail can come into play...scary shit.
 
I'm leaving this thread with one final thought. Not all "nest eggs" are monetary in form, and if you think those blackmail hacker e-mail's you get, who have nothing on you, is a bit unsettling...…….imagine one who has EVERYTHING on you. All it takes is a few ..few too many for my money. Make your own decision. Cheers.
 
Yeah trust some junkie with your personal info
What could possibly go wrong lol


Also just from personal exp; lie
Its quite easy to pretend to be someone else or make up an alter ego
Most indys have very limited resources to actually check facts or link your real terb handle up
 
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