Scientific Consensus - A Manufactured Construct

"If you get vaccinated, you won't get infected, full stop". Rachel Maddow of the MSNBC.

I love that you are still so mad at people who report things.

That Glem hates her dates back to him being furious he didn't get a cable news job.
 
People who have dealt with this whole strain of argument for years can talk a bit about why the "scientific consensus is manufactured" approach is being used.


Good article, thanks for posting that one.
 
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"Report things" :ROFLMAO:

They were pushing lies.

That is the cold hard truth!

She reported (and I don't know how accurately her report was or your characterization of her report) based on the understanding of a novel virus at the time.
As scientists learned more the consensus changed with repeatable studies.
That's how science and reporting works.
 
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She reported (and I don't know how accurately her report was or your characterization of her report) based on the understanding of a novel virus at the time.
As scientists learned more the consensus changed with repeatable studies.
That's how science and reporting works.

She reported on a specific study that found no transmission.
There is a reason they cut that clip to just have the one sentence.
 
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What a load, written and believed by people who have no clue what science is about.

Consensus is science is not like an opinion poll. It means that it is the theory that best fits the evidence. There is nothing scientists like better than proving their colleagues wrong so despite what the conspiracy kooks say, people are constantly designing experiments from the perspective of how to disprove the consensus. The fact that there are no better theories leads us to accepting what is left. If the science proved that covid came from a lab, the vaccines are harmful, or that fossil fuels don't lead to climate change, the scientific consensus will come around to accept it. In the meantime, those opinions are only pushed by internet grifters and political hacks.

p.s. pretty funny to see these guys claiming science is authoritarian while trying to dictate to scientists based solely on political perspectives.
Exactly right. They attack science so that they can put any dipshit's ideas on par with people who spend years studying them.
 
I love that you are still so mad at people who report things.

That Glem hates her dates back to him being furious he didn't get a cable news job.
Aha, ROTFLMFAO!!

 
"If you get vaccinated, you won't get infected, full stop". Rachel Maddow of the MSNBC.
Strange. I looked at her bio and I don't see anything about working in immunology or even a degree in sciences. Maybe her 1st year breadth requirement course covered covid research.
 
Aha, ROTFLMFAO!!

See? Ideologues never ask questions. The theme- get vaccinated for others. If the vaccines are as effective as she claims, why worry about the unvaccinated?
 
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See? Ideologues never ask questions. The theme- get vaccinated for others. If the vaccines are as effective as she claims, why worry about the unvaccinated?

You really don't know the answer to that question, do you?
And you think you're informed?
 
See? Ideologues never ask questions. The theme- get vaccinated for others. If the vaccines are as effective as she claims, why worry about the unvaccinated?
Is it so hard to figure out that even a 5% reduction in transmission due to vaccination helps?

Actual data shows transmission reductions between 11% per dose to 50% overall. The only issue was mutations causing vaccines (and prior infection) to offer less protection against new strains.

And the way science works, there would be thousands upon thousands of scientists making their name by writing papers proving vaccines don't work.


p.s. Your argument might as well be "if the Earth is a ball, how come we don't fall off the bottom".
 
Is it so hard to figure out that even a 5% reduction in transmission due to vaccination helps?

Actual data shows transmission reductions between 11% per dose to 50% overall. The only issue was mutations causing vaccines (and prior infection) to offer less protection against new strains.

And the way science works, there would be thousands upon thousands of scientists making their name by writing papers proving vaccines don't work.


p.s. Your argument might as well be "if the Earth is a ball, how come we don't fall off the bottom".
ROTFLMFAO!!! Except, if you follow Maddow, you know that's not the argument she's making. Thanks for the "explanation ", though.