Schwarznegger is toast

[TOVisitor]

I somehow think this will affect Arnie's ratings in the least.

Arnold's latest troubles will only compound these numbers, newguy:

Field Poll (PDF). 6/13-19. MoE 3.2% (Feb 2005 results)

Scharzenegger's approval rating

Approve 37 (53) That's a 16 point drop since February
Disapprove 53 (35)

Among Democrats

Approve 16 (34)
Disapprove 76 (54)

Among Republicans

Approve 66 (84)
Disapprove 23 (11)

Among Non-Partisans/Others

Approve 35 (48)
Disapprove 54 (38)


See when you go around bashing fireman, teachers, and nurses and saying you're going to "kick their asses", people don't like that.

You may have also noticed that he has been selling "product placement" in his politcal ads. Yes, that right, Kraft and other companies paid Arnold to have him seen using their products in his political ads. Gives new meaning to the phrase "bought by the corporations."

 

[langeweile]

From your article:

Leo Melamed, a former chairman of the [Chicago Mercantile Exchange] who reviewed the records for the White House, said in an interview ...the discrepancies in Clinton's records also could have been caused by human error.

Even allocated trades would not necessarily have benefited Clinton, Melamed added. "I have no reason to change my original assessment. Mrs. Clinton violated no rules in the course of her transactions," he said

How conveniently short your reading is. Looks like you pulled out of the article the pieces that fit your worldview of her guilt.

You also believe in santa clause...do you?

 

[langeweile]

From your article:

Leo Melamed, a former chairman of the [Chicago Mercantile Exchange] who reviewed the records for the White House, said in an interview ...the discrepancies in Clinton's records also could have been caused by human error.

Even allocated trades would not necessarily have benefited Clinton, Melamed added. "I have no reason to change my original assessment. Mrs. Clinton violated no rules in the course of her transactions," he said

How conveniently short your reading is. Looks like you pulled out of the article the pieces that fit your worldview of her guilt.

http://corporatefraud.tripod.com/democrookery/id4.html

There are always three sides to a story...yours, mine and the TRUTH

 

[TOVisitor]

Try again Schicklgruber. The article you cite is from The American Conservative Union. Go to their site and you find ads for Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, John Stossel, and so on.

Here's the bio of their Director:

David Keene is Chairman of the American Conservative Union, the nation's largest grassroots conservative organization, and Managing Associate of The Carmen Group, a Washington lobbying firm. He was National Chairman of Young Americans for Freedom while at the University of Wisconsin Law School; a Special Assistant to Vice President Spiro Agnew; Executive Assistant to New York Senator Jim Buckley; Southern Regional Political Director for Ronald Reagan's 1976 Presidential campaign; National Political Director for George Bush's 1980 Presidential race; and Senior Advisor to former Senator Bob Dole.

Not exactly a site peddling the "TRUTH."

Why do I bother with you? I won't.

 

[langeweile]

Try again Schicklgruber. The article you cite is from The American Conservative Union. Go to their site and you find ads for Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, John Stossel, and so on.

Here's the bio of their Director:

David Keene is Chairman of the American Conservative Union, the nation's largest grassroots conservative organization, and Managing Associate of The Carmen Group, a Washington lobbying firm. He was National Chairman of Young Americans for Freedom while at the University of Wisconsin Law School; a Special Assistant to Vice President Spiro Agnew; Executive Assistant to New York Senator Jim Buckley; Southern Regional Political Director for Ronald Reagan's 1976 Presidential campaign; National Political Director for George Bush's 1980 Presidential race; and Senior Advisor to former Senator Bob Dole.

Not exactly a site peddling the "TRUTH."

Why do I bother with you? I won't.

What's your point?

Leftwing blogs are credible and everything from the right is not?..yeah i thought so..the question really is why do i bother with you.

BTW you still haven't cleared up your so called "military record"..tell me how was "D-Day"? which in your case probably means "Diaper day"..

 

[langeweile]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton#Cattle_futures

While she technically didn't break any rules, looks like her broker took the fall. ..shouldn't be the appearance of wrongdoing be enough? Like for Karl Rove?

 

[langeweile]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/20050715/ts_latimes/governordefendsmagazinedeal

As governor, Schwarzenegger has refused to accept his $175,000 salary. He has talked repeatedly in his speeches of how he ran for the office to "give something back" to California — a state that propelled him to the status of box office sensation and multimillionaire.

Like expected ..much to do about nothing...I wonder if Howie Dean defers his salary?

 

[newguy27]

LIke I said, i dont think your supposed "scandal" of the veto will affect his numbers in the least. The unions, etc have piled on him for other reasons for the most part, the supplement thing is just trumped-up mud to fling by the left. Whether the polling numbers are low or not, there's no indication that the supposed "veto" problem has done anything except get left-wing people like you frothing!

 

[TOVisitor]

If you recall, Arnold told voters that he was so rich, he didn't need anyone else's money and that's why he should be trused to be elected. Looks like that's kinda inoperative.

Furthermore, the US Congress and The city of LA, for example, have laws against office holders "double-dipping." The state of CA does not have such a statute, because legislators did not think they needed one or that an officeholder would actually try to work two jobs.

In his financial disclosure statement, Arnold masked this contract with the magazine, lumping it in with 20 others in his own company Oak Productions, claiming that he gets "more than $100k" in income from Oak.

Arnold has also never made his tax records public, something that the President is required to do.

So much for Arnold the honest public servant.

 

[papasmerf]

If you recall, Arnold told voters that he was so rich, he didn't need anyone else's money and that's why he should be trused to be elected. Looks like that's kina inoperative.

Furthermore, the US Congress and The city of LA, for example, have laws against office holders "double-dipping." The state of CA does not have such a statute, because legislators did not think they needed one or that an officeholder would actually try to work two jobs.

In his finacial disclosure statement, Arnold masked this contract with the magazine, lumping it in with 20 others in his own company Oak Productions, claiming that he gets "more than $100k" in income from Oak.

Arnold has also never made his tax records public, something that the President is required to do.

So much for Arnold the honest public servant.

So are you just angered by Arnold or have unrequited feelings for him?

 

[TOVisitor]

LIke I said, i dont think your supposed "scandal" of the veto will affect his numbers in the least.

Yeah, given that his approvals ratings are in the 30's. chances are you are "correct" -- he can't go any lower.

 

[newguy27]

Yeah, given that his approvals ratings are in the 30's. chances are you are "correct" -- he can't go any lower.

probably right, cant go any lower so your post title is misleading to say the least when your "scandal" will have NO effect on the figures.

Misleading spins is what the left is best at anyways.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Misleading spins is what the left is best at anyways.

Surely you jest!!!!

I think the Misleading spins of Team 'W' that started the whole Iraqi War Debacle trump ANYTHING the left could ever concoct!........

 

[Asterix]

probably right, cant go any lower so your post title is misleading to say the least when your "scandal" will have NO effect on the figures.

Misleading spins is what the left is best at anyways.

You're right. TOV got it wrong. No doubt Arnie's numbers can go lower. He was toast from square one, and really has no one else to blame but himself. Playing up his "Arnold will come to the rescue" persona from the movies doomed him. Life's a bitch when you don't have complete control over the script.

 

[newguy27]

Surely you jest!!!!

I think the Misleading spins of Team 'W' that started the whole Iraqi War Debacle trump ANYTHING the left could ever concoct!........

Hey, I;m not saying there isnt spin on all sides around...that's why there are professional PR people on those politcal teams. But I'm getting tired of hearing how EVERYTHING W or the Republicans say is wrong, etc. Just like not everything the Dems say is wrong either. They treat the voters liek idiot sheep when they keep trying to trump up phony "scandals". HOwever, I do agree with Arnie's plan to let the PEOPLE decide in the November initiatives, rather than the politicians stay deadlocked wasting everyone's money for nothing.

SOmetimes a direct vote on important issues is what people need to break the waste and inefficiencies of government. I only wish Canadians had more direct say in what goes on rather than party whips forcing MPs to vote one way or by "buying" votes with cabinet posts.

 

[TOVisitor]

Hey, I;m not saying there isnt spin on all sides around...that's why there are professional PR people on those politcal teams. But I'm getting tired of hearing how EVERYTHING W or the Republicans say is wrong, etc. Just like not everything the Dems say is wrong either. They treat the voters liek idiot sheep when they keep trying to trump up phony "scandals". HOwever, I do agree with Arnie's plan to let the PEOPLE decide in the November initiatives, rather than the politicians stay deadlocked wasting everyone's money for nothing.

SOmetimes a direct vote on important issues is what people need to break the waste and inefficiencies of government. I only wish Canadians had more direct say in what goes on rather than party whips forcing MPs to vote one way or by "buying" votes with cabinet posts.

Well newguy ... looks like your career as a political advisor is dead on arrival:

From: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/17/BAGA9DPCST1.DTL

ANALYSIS
Quitting 2nd job won't advance governor's ideas
Pollster says public likely to keep eye on Schwarzenegger
Lynda Gledhill, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau
Sunday, July 17, 2005

Sacramento -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, heading into a critical election this fall, gave up a second job worth at least $5 million to help shore up his image with voters -- but even last week's costly sacrifice may not be enough to shore up his self-described "year of reform.''

Having already seen his poll numbers drop drastically since the beginning of his term and under constant attack from nurses, teachers and other labor groups, the governor found himself scrambling once again to overcome an outpouring of negative publicity. But political analysts say the governor's penchant for backtracking -- coupled with a special election agenda that has yet to gain widespread acceptance -- may be starting to wear thin with voters.

"He's clearly trying to regain the public trust and get the people focused on why he put forward the reform agenda," said Mark Baldassare, pollster for the Public Policy Institute of California.

On Friday, Schwarzenegger quit his second job as an editor for two bodybuilding magazines and gave up the multimillion-dollar salary. He had signed the contract with Muscle & Fitness and Flex magazines just two days before he was inaugurated in 2003. He had refused to say how much he received from the arrangement, but a filing by the magazines with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission last week revealed he was being paid at least $1 million a year for five years.

 

[TOVisitor]

More Arnie bad news

Public Policy Institute of California (PDF). 6/28-7/12. MoE 2%. (5/10-17 results)
Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the way that Arnold Schwarzenegger is handling his job as governor of California?"

Approve 34 (40)
Disapprove 51 (49)

Among likely voters
Approve 41 (45)
Disapprove 49 (46)

Among Democrats
Approve 18 (22)
Disapprove 70 (68)

Among Republicans
Approve 68 (72)
Disapprove 21 (19)

Among Independents
Approve 34 (42)
Disapprove 51 (48)

President Bush's approval ratings in California
Approve 38 (40)
Disapprove 57 (56)

And he is facing a (clearly) partisan lawsuit:

Democrats file complaint over Schwarzenegger deal
By Adam Tanner

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California Democrats filed a complaint on Tuesday against Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to the state's political watchdog, alleging ethics violations related to his financial links to two fitness magazines.

Art Torres, California Democratic chairman, even raised the possibility the growing dispute could result in jail time.

The Republican Schwarzenegger stepped down as executive editor of "Muscle & Fitness" and "Flex" magazines on Friday, foregoing a contract the company said was worth more than $13 million over five years.

Reuters first reported financial details of the deal with American Media Operations last Wednesday.

In the complaint to the Fair Political Practices Commission (FPPC), Torres said the payment violated conflict of interest rules. In an interview, he raised the possibility the investigation could lead to a criminal conviction.

"Legislators have gone to prison over $1,200 honorariums that they had accepted illegally," Torres said. "This might be an alleged gift rather than a consulting agreement which far exceeds what might be the value of writing a column."

<snip> Really funny is Arnie's reaction to dropping the consulting arrangement:

On Monday, the multimillionaire Hollywood star promised openness about his finances and joked that forgoing the outside income could mean fewer diamonds for his wife Maria Shriver.

Fewer diamonds? A real "man of the people." Hah.

 

[TOVisitor]

BY the way...

Arnold is the 46th out of 50 Governors in approval ratings.

http://www.surveyusa.com/50StateGovTrackingJuly2005.htm

Toast, anyone?

 

[newguy27]

Still dont see anything to support your unsupported allegation that the deal affected his poll numbers, in fact, your own numbers may suggest that by ending the deal, it stil hasnt affected the polling numbers in a positive manner, bud. no correlation, no evidence of cause and effect.

Looks like your hypothesis that the deal had anything to do with his poll numbers is "toast"

Whether Arnie is popular or not, it is clear that your "conclusion" is unsupported.

 

[papasmerf]

Arnold is the 46th out of 50 Governors in approval ratings.

http://www.surveyusa.com/50StateGovTrackingJuly2005.htm

Toast, anyone?

Good thing you don't live in Cali.

Of course you have claimed to live in WNY, now there is an area with political aproval.