Scared - need advice
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Stay with reputable providers is my suggestion. But be ever cautious. Recall the meltdown of 'Racing Ass' and her spiral into the abyss with her manager. If you want to venture into the abyss, behave/think like a criminal; burner phone, inaccurate personal information, and so forth.
Dude,
I just got mine today. Ironically I just decided today that I lay of from this hobby from awhile. If we didn't have this thread I would probably be shitting myself right now. So thanks for the thread and hope you are better now. As bonus here is my text:
"My name is Pedro Mendoza, head of the ladies you were talking to to have sex then, I have been calling you because you have been talking to several of my girls who have offered you their services and you only wasted his time. I have set you a fee that you have to pay for Lost Time and Abuse of the Girl. I have all your information and your family too, tell me how you want to fix this in a good or bad way. Or do you really want me to send my people to your home or work?..?&?&?
Tell me if we are going to solve this in the best way if you want to solve this or my hit men will take care of you and your whole family so that you see that this is not a game and my business is respected..,&?&?&"
I just got mine today. Ironically I just decided today that I lay of from this hobby from awhile. If we didn't have this thread I would probably be shitting myself right now. So thanks for the thread and hope you are better now. As bonus here is my text:
"My name is Pedro Mendoza, head of the ladies you were talking to to have sex then, I have been calling you because you have been talking to several of my girls who have offered you their services and you only wasted his time. I have set you a fee that you have to pay for Lost Time and Abuse of the Girl. I have all your information and your family too, tell me how you want to fix this in a good or bad way. Or do you really want me to send my people to your home or work?..?&?&?
Tell me if we are going to solve this in the best way if you want to solve this or my hit men will take care of you and your whole family so that you see that this is not a game and my business is respected..,&?&?&"
Glad you didn't shit yourself since you knew about it from this thread. Even if it was real, you said you were using a text app and not your real #. They would have zero info about your real life details. Either way you should have played along with them for shits and giggles since you already knew it was a scam.
Would have probably but I wasn't actually using texting app. I meant the text app that comes with your phone to view your text and all and not an actual app that you download and register. I rather not tempt my luck. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. But feel free to try it yourself since you have his phone number now ∩( ✧Д✧)∩.
should be punishable by law. i know it isnt but it should.
One could try reporting a tip anonymously online to crime stoppers. If enough people report the same number maybe LE will take these criminals down for extortion.
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Just an attempt to extort. Never buy into it, block the number and don't reply. Change your phone # if you have to.
I know this is a week late, and it appears the poster has been helped, but just to reiterate: those texts are bullshit. It is indeed, a scam, meant to scare the SHIT out of men. The first time I received one I chuckled. No 'cartel' in the world bothers with crap like that. If the Cartels want you. You'll be in a backroad hole, duct taped and sweating as they shovel dirt on your face before you know what's hit you. Believe me,...they don't play games. AND...they don't text people lol. They're coming out of Pakistan mostly using VOIP and number scramblers. They look like they're local, but they aren't. They're in Islamabad or Lahore sitting in an air-conditioned room eating ras malai (try it, it's good). These are the same call centres that scam the elderly out of cash "Hello, I am...sherrif,...you are in...BIG trouble, mr guy!" lol. Don't sweat it. It's all horseshit. Even if it WAS a douchebag trying to shake you down, your local police will ream his asshole. There's a word for this type of bullshit: extortion. And just because you're seeking a sex worker doesn't exclude you from the protection of the law. Worry when there's a weapon halfway up your nose, not when Sinbad the Scammer comes calling. Wanna have some fun? Text them back and tell them your gang wants to fight their gang. 
Use a text app for this kind of stuff . You can get a free number using TextMe, or TextFree app.
yes, change your number . Don’t use your cell that can be traced back to you for illegal activities bro.
never give escorts your real name, not even your first name.
if you book with escorts on twitter, then use a fake account and delete often so no one who saw you can associate that said account to you.
whenever you book again with a repeat escort , book with a new number, and don’t identify yourself while booking.
yes, change your number . Don’t use your cell that can be traced back to you for illegal activities bro.
never give escorts your real name, not even your first name.
if you book with escorts on twitter, then use a fake account and delete often so no one who saw you can associate that said account to you.
whenever you book again with a repeat escort , book with a new number, and don’t identify yourself while booking.
Could be a good idea but pimps also know about texting apps like TextNow. I'd put a 20 down that whoever sent out these threats was using a third party app.One could try reporting a tip anonymously online to crime stoppers. If enough people report the same number maybe LE will take these criminals down for extortion.
Submit a Tip - Ontario Association of Crime Stoppers
A few years ago, I had a regular. She was clean (no drugs), upscale condo in a relatively quiet neighborhood. For some reason, she had some kind of a meltdown and started texting me. Not good when the SO is in the same room! I fully trusted her before, I never even thought she was capable of this. That was my lesson to always keep some kind of firewall between SP and me.
Hate seeing people going through these types of experiences, I can totally sympathize with and understand the concern and even in some cases giving into the demands of the people behind these types of situations.
Its so frustrating to see these Aholes weaponizing stigma and the current written law in order to take advantage of a client.
As understandably frightening as this situation may be, these people typically won’t follow through with their threats which may seem hard to believe in the moment.
Extortion, uttering threats, in some cases material benefit are all serious offences with just as serious sentencing possibilities. Actually following through could lead to them getting caught, not worth the risk (obviously) which why these threats rarely come into fruition.
Another common tactic aside from threatening exposure is threatening to involve or impersonating law enforcement. Albeit it is currently written that it’s illegal to purchase sexual services. But is it actually enforced? And do they care? Unless someone’s person has been harmed or threatened and their well being and security infringed upon, the answer is no.
I’ve had conversations with a good friend currently working in OPS about the industry and its legality. Despite the current law, their focus and involvement really centres around intercepting human traffickers and rescuing their victims, or support sw victims and investigating matters where a client caused harm to and compromised the sw’s well being.
Otherwise, the doings of regular “Johns” seeing “regular sw” who work of their own volition aren’t exactly seen as acts of crime but rather for lack of a better a better word “taboo”. So long as everyone is safe and good, they’re no cause for concern.
In these types of situations, not only does the victim experience unnecessary hardship and stress but it further expands the rift and propels the mistrust between clients and providers which is unfortunate.
Not all providers who screen or require a deposit are scammers, not all clients who don’t feel comfortable in partaking in screening are time wasters. But rather than question, attack or belittle someone for either having a screening process or saying they aren’t comfortable in going through one, accept that and move on…. It should never be seen as something personal imo, an appointment shouldn’t result at expense of either sides boundaries.
There are definitely pre cautions and things to be mindful of and take into consideration to help avoid these types of incident from reoccurring or having happen to you at all.
• thoroughly review the ad you’re viewing, use image look up, does the provider have other platforms? If you don’t see one listed, it never hurts to ask! aka a link to social media or website?
* does she have any reviews? Yes things can be YYMV but this is again, to verify that they’re more so legit and that they’re at the very least who they say they are and will follow through with a session. Keep in mind every experience is unique could vary person to person. Just because someone experienced something (positive or negative) doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll share the same experience, having an open mind without set expectations (other than the ones previously discussed during correspondence) but rather letting everything play out organically truly enhances the experience, and makes things more comfortable and enjoyable for both sides = likelier positive experience
* try to keep personal information as private if possible. In instances where a deposit or ID verification is required to book and you’re not comfortable, that’s totally fine! If you’re not comfortable don’t do it, however, don’t try to convince or pressure a sw to bypass her screening protocol. Maintaining your boundaries shouldn’t come at the expense of someone else’s, both are equally important and should be equally respected.
You might be able to inquire about an alternate option that could potentially work if they’re open to it. As an example: I accept references as an option for those who don’t feel comfortable providing a deposit or ID. Otherwise if it’s indicated as non negotiable, or if they say no again respectfully move on.
I hope that the OP or anyone else knows this isn’t their fault, they didn’t deserve to have that happen to them and hope despite this experience they’re able to keep an open mind and eventually meet someone with whom they feel safe and comfortable, and are able to have the best possible, most fulfilling experience & hopefully turn things around 🩷 stay safe everyone
Its so frustrating to see these Aholes weaponizing stigma and the current written law in order to take advantage of a client.
As understandably frightening as this situation may be, these people typically won’t follow through with their threats which may seem hard to believe in the moment.
Extortion, uttering threats, in some cases material benefit are all serious offences with just as serious sentencing possibilities. Actually following through could lead to them getting caught, not worth the risk (obviously) which why these threats rarely come into fruition.
Another common tactic aside from threatening exposure is threatening to involve or impersonating law enforcement. Albeit it is currently written that it’s illegal to purchase sexual services. But is it actually enforced? And do they care? Unless someone’s person has been harmed or threatened and their well being and security infringed upon, the answer is no.
I’ve had conversations with a good friend currently working in OPS about the industry and its legality. Despite the current law, their focus and involvement really centres around intercepting human traffickers and rescuing their victims, or support sw victims and investigating matters where a client caused harm to and compromised the sw’s well being.
Otherwise, the doings of regular “Johns” seeing “regular sw” who work of their own volition aren’t exactly seen as acts of crime but rather for lack of a better a better word “taboo”. So long as everyone is safe and good, they’re no cause for concern.
In these types of situations, not only does the victim experience unnecessary hardship and stress but it further expands the rift and propels the mistrust between clients and providers which is unfortunate.
Not all providers who screen or require a deposit are scammers, not all clients who don’t feel comfortable in partaking in screening are time wasters. But rather than question, attack or belittle someone for either having a screening process or saying they aren’t comfortable in going through one, accept that and move on…. It should never be seen as something personal imo, an appointment shouldn’t result at expense of either sides boundaries.
There are definitely pre cautions and things to be mindful of and take into consideration to help avoid these types of incident from reoccurring or having happen to you at all.
• thoroughly review the ad you’re viewing, use image look up, does the provider have other platforms? If you don’t see one listed, it never hurts to ask! aka a link to social media or website?
* does she have any reviews? Yes things can be YYMV but this is again, to verify that they’re more so legit and that they’re at the very least who they say they are and will follow through with a session. Keep in mind every experience is unique could vary person to person. Just because someone experienced something (positive or negative) doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll share the same experience, having an open mind without set expectations (other than the ones previously discussed during correspondence) but rather letting everything play out organically truly enhances the experience, and makes things more comfortable and enjoyable for both sides = likelier positive experience
* try to keep personal information as private if possible. In instances where a deposit or ID verification is required to book and you’re not comfortable, that’s totally fine! If you’re not comfortable don’t do it, however, don’t try to convince or pressure a sw to bypass her screening protocol. Maintaining your boundaries shouldn’t come at the expense of someone else’s, both are equally important and should be equally respected.
You might be able to inquire about an alternate option that could potentially work if they’re open to it. As an example: I accept references as an option for those who don’t feel comfortable providing a deposit or ID. Otherwise if it’s indicated as non negotiable, or if they say no again respectfully move on.
I hope that the OP or anyone else knows this isn’t their fault, they didn’t deserve to have that happen to them and hope despite this experience they’re able to keep an open mind and eventually meet someone with whom they feel safe and comfortable, and are able to have the best possible, most fulfilling experience & hopefully turn things around 🩷 stay safe everyone
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Rock star (and a shiny penny) @MaddieCMJ hits the nail on the head again.
Extracted some of your thoughts to another thread:
This morning’s correspondence is perfect example of why and how screening is used to help weed out individuals such this guy. Please don’t be him 
if you’re not comfortable, as previously mentioned that is totally fine! However don’t barter, challenge, argue etc accept things as they are and try your luck elsewhere. But hopefully this gives some perspective for how things are on the other side if you will.
if you’re not comfortable, as previously mentioned that is totally fine! However don’t barter, challenge, argue etc accept things as they are and try your luck elsewhere. But hopefully this gives some perspective for how things are on the other side if you will.Attachments
We need more thoughtful, informative and responsible input from providers like this! Thank you @MaddieCMJ a perfect example of a professional.. Chefs Kiss !
Don’t worry about those. I’ve gotten a few and have fun with them. I tell them ok well you say you have my address that’s great I’m home now so come on over I’ll make us some coffee. I keep on messaging them and annoying them u too they block me lol
so basically they know they won’t do shit to you and don’t really know who you are I less you divulge details to them so don’t worry about it
