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Saudis, UAE Refuse To Take Biden's Calls To Discuss Ukraine Situation, Talk To Putin Instead

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Saudis, UAE Refuse To Take Biden's Calls To Discuss Ukraine Situation, Talk To Putin Instead

TUESDAY, MAR 08, 2022 - 09:30 PM
First, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro declined to condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Then, India followed suit - as the Modi government attempted to balance its historic ties with Moscow and its strategic partnership with Washington.
Biden with Indian PM Narendra Modi
Now, Saudi and UAE leaders are refusing to take Biden's calls as the US president tries to contain surging oil prices, according to the Wall Street Journal, which adds that the Persian Gulf monarchies have signaled "they won’t help ease surging oil prices unless Washington supports them in Yemen, elsewhere."

"There was some expectation of a phone call, but it didn’t happen," said one US official of a planned discussion between Biden and the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. "It was part of turning on the spigot [of Saudi oil]."
Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
The U.A.E.’s Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al Nahyan also ghosted Biden in recent weeks according to Middle East and US officials.
Yet, both Prince Mohammed and Sheikh Mohammed took phone calls from Russian President Vladimir Putin after declining to speak with Biden, according to the WSJ. They also spoke with Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Biden was able to get through to Prince Mohammed's 86-year-old father on Feb. 9, however the U.A.E.’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the call between Mr. Biden and Sheikh Mohammed would need to be rescheduled, according to the report.
What do they get out of it?
As the Journal notes, "The Saudis have signaled that their relationship with Washington has deteriorated under the Biden administration, and they want more support for their intervention in Yemen’s civil war, help with their own civilian nuclear program as Iran’s moves ahead, and legal immunity for Prince Mohammed in the U.S., Saudi officials said. The crown prince faces multiple lawsuits in the U.S., including over the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018."
There's the ask.
Meanwhile, the Emiratis share Saudi concerns about the less-than-adequate level of engagement by the US regarding recent missile strikes by Iran-backed Houthi militants in Yemen against both the UAE and Saudi Arabia. The two kingdoms are also concerned about the revival of the Iran nuclear deal - which is in its 'final stages of negotiations,' yet does zero to address their security concerns.
So for those keeping track, while the west has continued to insist that Russia is isolated - and make no mistake, these sanctions will be immediately crippling - if one considers the population and resources which originate in China, India, Brazil and the Middle East kingdoms - basically half the world's population and those who control most of the world's commodities aren't on board with punishing Putin or easing the situation to the west's benefit.
And as the Journal points out, "Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. are the only two major oil producers that can pump millions of more barrels of more oil—a capacity that, if used, could help calm the crude market at a time when American gasoline prices are at high levels."
Too little, too late?
Late last month, Brett McGurk, the National Security Council’s Middle East coordinator, and Amos Hochstein, the State Department’s energy envoy, flew to Riydah to try and smooth relations - while McGurk also met with Sheikh Mohammed in Abu Dhabi to hear out their frustrations with America's response to Houthi attacks.
Obviously, diplomacy didn't go well.
To date, the Saudis and Emiratis have declined to increase oil production - and are instead holding to the previously agreed OPEC production roadmap. What's more, their energy alliance with Russia, another top oil producer, has boosted OPECs global reach while bringing the Kingdoms closer to Moscow.
Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. forged deep ties with former President Donald Trump, who sided with them in a regional dispute with Qatar, pulled the U.S. out of the Iran nuclear deal that they had opposed, made his first trip abroad to Riyadh in 2017 and stood by Prince Mohammed after the killing of Mr. Khashoggi. But Mr. Trump’s decision not to respond to an Iranian drone and missile attack on major Saudi oil sites in 2019 rattled Gulf partners who have relied for decades on the promise of U.S. security protection. Iran denied involvement in the oil facility attacks.
The rift between Mr. Biden and Saudi Arabia’s crown prince stretches back to the 2020 presidential election, when the Democratic candidate vowed to treat the kingdom as a “pariah” state after a Saudi hit team killed Mr. Khashoggi in 2018 in Istanbul. -WSJ
Biden also released an intelligence report shortly after taking office which concluded that the 2018 Istanbul murder of WaPo journalist Jamal Khashoggi was approved by Prince Mohammed - who has denied knowledge of the plot despite close associates having been convicted in Saudi court over the the journalist's death.
The US president also slammed Saudi Arabia over its long war in Yemen, and cut off weapons that the Saudis were using to target Houthis. Biden also removed Houthis from a list of global terrorist groups, after former President Trump added them.
And on Monday (after Biden was ghosted), White House spox Jen Psaki confirmed that Biden stood by his view that the Saudis should be treated like a "pariah," and that their leadership has 'little redeeming social value.'
In an interview with the Atlantic magazine published last week, Prince Mohammed said when asked if Biden misunderstood him: "Simply, I do not care," adding that the US president shouldn't have alienated Saudi leaders. "It's up to him to think about the interests of America," he said, adding "Go for it."
So, perhaps don't call the country that could bail you out of an oil crunch a "pariah" if you might require their assistance.
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Saudi princess 👸🏻 is still mad US courts convicted him for killing a journalist (dismembering him in a consulate). the world should have boycotted all saudi oil then. banned them from the world.

but money …
 
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The Saudis should get kicked out of opec or better yet a new oil regulatory body formed
 

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dirtydaveiii

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I do not think USA runs OPEC.
No they don't the Arabs largely do and the US just goes along with it because all OPEC oil is traded in USD and the Saudis have massive economic interests in the United States. If that murderous fucker wants to play hardball western Europe, Canada and Venezuela should form their own pact and kick the Saudis out. When oil skyrocketed under Bush Venezuela joked they would sell them gasoline for 50 cents a gallon which they can because they are not Arab controlled. Russia also threatened the US by considering selling oil in rubles which is now equivalent to rubble
 

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No they don't the Arabs largely do and the US just goes along with it because all OPEC oil is traded in USD and the Saudis have massive economic interests in the United States. If that murderous fucker wants to play hardball western Europe, Canada and Venezuela should form their own pact and kick the Saudis out. When oil skyrocketed under Bush Venezuela joked they would sell them gasoline for 50 cents a gallon which they can because they are not Arab controlled. Russia also threatened the US by considering selling oil in rubles which is now equivalent to rubble
Correction Venezuela is a part of opec and united states are not. Why would America let these 'shithole' countries control the price of their own commodities?
 

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The world is too complicated for lefties to understand. Maybe Jame Fonda can find some oil for the Americans. Also, the U.S. convincing Canada to kidnap Miss Meng doesn't help our relationship with the PRC.
 
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The world is too complicated for lefties to understand. Maybe Jame Fonda can find some oil for the Americans. Also, the U.S. convincing Canada to kidnap Miss Meng doesn't help our relationship with the PRC.
Lmao....
Conservatives are still stuck in the 1950's.
 
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No they don't the Arabs largely do and the US just goes along with it because all OPEC oil is traded in USD and the Saudis have massive economic interests in the United States. If that murderous fucker wants to play hardball western Europe, Canada and Venezuela should form their own pact and kick the Saudis out. When oil skyrocketed under Bush Venezuela joked they would sell them gasoline for 50 cents a gallon which they can because they are not Arab controlled. Russia also threatened the US by considering selling oil in rubles which is now equivalent to rubble

The Russian economy operates in Rubles, so with the sanction engineered collapse of the Ruble, Russia only needs to sell 1/3 the oil it used to, to fund its domestic budget. Even less since oil and gas has soared. Maybe 1/5th.
 

nottyboi

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The world is too complicated for lefties to understand. Maybe Jame Fonda can find some oil for the Americans. Also, the U.S. convincing Canada to kidnap Miss Meng doesn't help our relationship with the PRC.
Actually the righties find it too complicated. This is why they keep trying to send it back to the past when things were simpler.
 

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You can fool the CNN and others, but it's a lot more difficult to fool people who actually matter, who look at the current American administration and see a walking cadaver and a Vice President who is an unserious moron. They see weakness, they see uncertainty, they see another ridiculous Iran deal on the horizon and the Gulf states simply prefer to sit this one out. There's just no one to deal with, so they demurred. Predictable.
 

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The Russian economy operates in Rubles, so with the sanction engineered collapse of the Ruble, Russia only needs to sell 1/3 the oil it used to, to fund its domestic budget. Even less since oil and gas has soared. Maybe 1/5th.
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I don't understand the logic (or foolery) of the US going on their knees to beg for oil from authoritarian despot countries like Saudi Arabia, Venezuala, UAE and now Iran (via giving them a pass on their nuclear program) to assuage shortages brought on by the Russian invasion on Ukraine. Sky high crude oil prices after the invasion was known well in advance, so no surprise there on the fall-out. What Biden should be doing is remove (or delay) regulatory obstacles to the Keystone project that would allow pipelines for oil from Canada, incentivize a ramp up of oil production within the North American landscape (lots of fracking low capital oil drillers eager to jump into the market given the right incentive). At least put a pause on the transitioning to green energy initiatives in these extraordinary times. It's the commonsense approach to handle this situation not going cap-in-hand to these despots, it's disgraceful.
 
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jcpro

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I don't understand the logic (or foollery) of the US going on their knees to beg for oil from authoritorian despot countries like Saudi Arabia, Venezuala, UAE and now Iran (via giving them a pass on their nuclear program) to assuage shortages brought on by the Russian invasion on Ukraine. Sky high crude oil prices after the invatsion was known well in advance, so no surprice there on the fall-out. What Biden should be doing is remove (or delay) obstacles to the Keystone project that would allow pipeline for oil from from Canada, incentivize a ramp up of oil production within the North American escape. At least put a pause on the transitioning to green energy initiatives in these extraordinary times. It's the commonsense approach to handle this situation not going cap-in-hand to these despots, it's disgraceful.
Because the church of the climate change takes precedence over everything and everyone.
 
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Because the church of the climate change takes precedence over everything and everyone.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to invest in renewables and just not deal with despots, tyrants and fascists altogether. Would you?
 
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