$300million plus thrown in the incinerator just to cancel green energy contracts because you're an idiot ideologue would have gone a longgggggggggggggggggggg way to help all the homeless people in Ontario.
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If we are talking homeless the Fraser Institute figures the Trudeau gov`t. pissed away 110 BILLION dollars in covid payments. That could have gone a much longer way.
Well as a taxpayer, I’ll put “this price in scale”.
City of Toronto property taxes from ALL 500 units in my entire condominium building don’t cover the cost of this small “civic expenditure”.
FFS, I pay $5,300 a year and that money is squandered on renaming anything?!?
I think the thousand people living in my building would disagree when they realize ALL their property taxes for a year don’t cover it. Especially when there is filth, garbage, homeless encampment leftover mattresses, shopping carts and bags of dogshit left in a pile on the ground City-owned park outside our doors. The City won’t put in a trash bin and I got scolded amd threatened by a Manager from the Parks Dept when I organized a park cleanup a couple years ago. Said it was “ unauthorized “ and we could be charged with trespassing!!
Yes, he/she/they is correct. Our street found that out during the last garbage strike. Only people authorized by the City are allowed to legally pick-up/collect garbage.
I thought your building was paying for new bike lanes on Bloor.
The city of Toronto annual budget is $16 billion, so this is about 0.005% of the budget, if I'm doing that correctly.
Sure, they should also spend way more homeless shelters, though that's more of a DoFo responsibility.
We should spend more on cleaning parks, roads, social services and a lot of other crap.
Should it be a priority, no, but its happening and its not like its $500 million on a parking lot for a private company.
We should be more concerned about TTC funding, metrolinx screwups, fixing congestion and a host of other issues but this isn't even a drop in the bucket on those ones. Not a big enough deal to get that upset about, except for your building paying for it all of course.
What a fucking joke, eh?
City employees are too fucking lazy and mismanaged to do the simplest and most important of things we want from government, streets freeof garbage that sits for months.
in the past few months, I have been to Chicago, Atlanta,NYC/Brooklyn and Buffalo. ALL we’re notably free of litter, and the streets were clean. Both in Chicago and Atlanta I even saw Street cleaning machines out late at night.
My American and European friends and business associates who have visited Toronto in the past couple years have all commented on how filthy it is. arriving from the airport via the Gardner and Spadina, the first thing they see is piles of garbage under the expressway from abandoned homeless encampment, hundreds of Tim Hortons cups on the shoulder… well, I don’t need to tell anybody else. You’ve all seen it yourselves.
A city that can’t even keep it streets clean, is fundamentally, misguided, and mismanaged.
The push back from residents and businesses in Dundas will be much more profound if they try it. BIAs may end up suing due to the costs of a change over. I would.
I seldom disagree with you, my friend, but “millions and billions” just roll off the tongue so easily that we lose track of the granularity of it all. The point being is that 500 homes and taxpayers in one building have the entirety of their taxes wasted on frivolous issues that are wasteful and unnecessary.
If we are rich like Dubai or Saudi Arabia, and have, all of our basic government responsibilities, covered like clean streets, then fine. Spend all the money you want on renaming whatever you want.
A city that can’t even keep it streets clean, is fundamentally, misguided, and mismanaged.
I agree with you, schlong, but I also see this an attempt to clean up dundas square, which is a pretty ugly civic mess on its own.
I was in NY and London recently and NY is as much of a disaster but London was spotless in comparison.
We used to be Toronto the beautiful, one of the cleanest cities in NA, but that was back before amalgamation and the cons made the burbs rule over the core. That and a few other provincial programs has starved the downtown, that's where the anger should be focused. This is just the anti woke crowd trying to shame the city even more.
The answer isn't trying to attack this change but to demand that the city do more everywhere, get the province to fund health care for the homeless, get the feds in for housing, raise taxes in the burbs and city if we have to to pay to clean it all up. The Ford's and Tory mantra of no tax increases means the city doesn't have the money to pay for basics.
The city's only expertise is waffling on decisions for decades, keeping union city workers employed and wasting money on pet projects.
Toronto is bigger than the downtown core which you seem to believe is the only place in the province that exists and deserves attention.
Wasteful spending and a council that's incompetent regardless who is running the province.
Dundas square won't be cleaned-up just by renaming it as much as they've played you into believing that.
You can blame the province all you want but Toronto can't manage it's own budget as this has proven again.
And let's get ready for them to rename the entire street which is pegged at $12 million.
Chow is not off to a good start.
Try staying on topic or start your own post.
We all now DoFo lives in your brain 24/7 but do your best to contain your derangement in this thread and stay on topic.
Can you do that?
Just wait until they approve renaming Dundas Street...somewhere around $10 million.
We all know that's coming. Dundas Sq was just a teaser.
That looks like a big cock for Toronto taxpayers.
Toronto spending formula of 1995 was it disaster. Basic services can no longer be paid for. It was supposed to be paid for with a great savings of Converting into 1 great paperwork city.
Years of neglect have an allow damage the city.
As an act of desperation The pretense of Intensification to save money was put on . a lie
Now a new lie. Change the street names and all will be good.
The 1st the mayor is clean. Second less so. The 3rd her show.
Yonge and Dundas needs a hell of a lot of work and it's always been an ugly area. The city tried too hard to copy Times Square and failed miserably. The 10 Dundas building is the worst with the fake fans, random signs, and billboards on it. The massive jeans store that used to be there in th3 80's looked "better" in comparison.
Its really just a horrible place that doesn't make anyone want to hang out there.
There's many historic and beautiful buildings in that area, but many are covered with aluminum siding, signage, or boarded up. There was the Empress Hotel at Yonge and Gould where Salad King used to be before the buiding burned down. Last time I was there, it was nothing more than a food truck lot. It will likely be a condo at some point. There's also an old CIBC branch at Yonge and Queen with giant columns in front of it next to the HomeSense. One of the entrances has been boarded up for years maybe decades now, but naturally, there's a condo behind it.
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