Saddam Being Tortured in US Custody?

[onthebottom]

This is sweeeeet:

OTB

Saddam's cartoon capers
The Press Association
Monday August 28, 08:11 AM

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is being made to watch his appearance in cult cartoon South Park while he is behind bars.

The deposed leader on trial in Iraq was featured in the movie spin-off as the lover of the devil. South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut featured Hussein and Satan attempting to take over the world together.

Speaking at the Edinburgh International Television Festival, South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone said US Marines guarding the former dictator during his trial for genocide were making him watch the movie "repeatedly".

"I have it on pretty good information from the Marines on detail in Iraq that they showed him the movie last year. That's really adding insult to injury. I bet that made him really happy," Stone said.

 

[maxweber]

Right on!

Good!

That'll show the bastard that torturing prisoners is wrong! As everyone knows, the second wrong cancels out the first one, and makes a right..

mw

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

That'll show the bastard that torturing prisoners is wrong! As everyone knows, the second wrong cancels out the first one, and makes a right..

mw

I bet Saddam's victims wished their torture was watching a movie ..........one day, you will have to extract your head from your ass and take a good look around. Until that day comes, you should do yourself a favour and avoid posting such crap.

 

[northern_tantra]

Psychological torture methods

Wikipedia has a pretty complete list of psychological toture methods. Being forced to watch a Simpsons episode is, strangely, not on the list. (Being forced to listen to Rap music isn't on the list either -- go figure!)

Psychological torture methods

• Mock execution
• Extended solitary confinement
• Blackmail
• Being forced to witness atrocities including torture
• Being forced to commit atrocities including torture
• Being forced to watch acts of sexual abuse
• Being urinated on, or covered with fecal matter
• Being held incommunicado
• Exploitation of phobias, e.g. leaving arachnophobes in a room full of spiders
• Being kept in confined spaces
• Extended sleep deprivation
• Being forced to sleep on hard surfaces
• Total sensory deprivation
• Being coerced into denying one's religion under duress, or being forced to take part in blasphemy
• Racial abuse
• Conditions of detention
• Headshaving (especially women)
• Shunning
• Forced labour, coercion into doing excessive physical activity
• Covert (non-contact) incest
• Threats to family members (spoken or carried out)
• Shaming and public humiliation, being stripped naked, forced participation in or witnessing of sexual activity, public condemnation.
• Constant shouting, verbal abuse and taunting
• Alterations to room temperature
• Ball and chain, shackling
• Chastity belt

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Psychological_torture_methods

Note the entry in red. The kidnappers of those FOX journalists in Gaza who forced them to "convert" to Islam on camera are guilty of torture, according to the Geneva Conventions. (Just in case you might not have realized that was torture.)

 

[Asterix]

This is sweeeeet:

OTB

Saddam's cartoon capers
The Press Association
Monday August 28, 08:11 AM

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is being made to watch his appearance in cult cartoon South Park while he is behind bars.

The deposed leader on trial in Iraq was featured in the movie spin-off as the lover of the devil. South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut featured Hussein and Satan attempting to take over the world together.

Speaking at the Edinburgh International Television Festival, South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone said US Marines guarding the former dictator during his trial for genocide were making him watch the movie "repeatedly".

"I have it on pretty good information from the Marines on detail in Iraq that they showed him the movie last year. That's really adding insult to injury. I bet that made him really happy," Stone said.

Swell. That makes the whole debacle in Iraq worthwhile. Saddam is a sideshow to what is happening in Iraq currently. Adolescent taunts to this powerless fool will do nothing to solve the mess we are in.

 

[Truncador]

I so hope this story is true. Even if it isn't, it deserves to become part of the mythology and folklore of liberty, for using satire to humble a tyrant symbolizes the spirit of liberty like almost nothing else can.

 

[Asterix]

...for using satire to humble a tyrant symbolizes the spirit of liberty like almost nothing else can.

Yes, when they are still tyrants and can pose a threat. In this case it more resembles a childish prank.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Yes, when they are still tyrants and can pose a threat. In this case it more resembles a childish prank.

Satirizing tyrants while they're still tyrants can be hazardous to one's health

 

[Asterix]

Satirizing tyrants while they're still tyrants can be hazardous to one's health

Entirely the point. How easy is it to ridicule someone to their face already in custody, who has even been abandoned by anyone who once supported them? Pretty weany if you ask me, but evidently OTB thinks it's significant.

 

[Lustology]

LoL i bet sadam himself got a good joke out of it because he's a bastard, it's gonna take more than a pathetic cartoon to hurt him.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Entirely the point. How easy is it to ridicule someone to their face already in custody, who has even been abandoned by anyone who once supported them? Pretty weany if you ask me, but evidently OTB thinks it's significant.

yeah..........I got your point

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

LoL i bet sadam himself got a good joke out of it because he's a bastard, it's gonna take more than a pathetic cartoon to hurt him.

No Shit.............that's way better than having your fingernails ripped out.

 

[Truncador]

Yes, when they are still tyrants and can pose a threat. In this case it more resembles a childish prank.

The film was made when Saddam was still a tyrant and was still boasting that he was going to take down America. Whether or not the incident happened, it drives home a powerful message: the free world doesn't just make fun of tyrants; it kicks their asses, puts them in chains, and then makes fun of them some more. This is a particularly important message to send to those parts of the world where force is respected above everything else and American institutions of free speech and ridicule of authority figures are often mistaken for weakness, since those populations are most at risk to submit to tyrants like Saddam, Hitler, etc.

 

[onthebottom]

These military intelligence types really have gone
to a new low. Back in 'Nam we didn't torture and
we didn't pander - we were far more professional
than this new crop. So much for the all voluntary
military. Apparently the lowest common denominator
are now the military decision-makers. I was led by
senior officers that served in WWII and Korea. This
new breed of officers are a disgrace to the US
military tradition of professionalism. Apparently
Rummy doesn't have 'command presence' and
'leadership skills' that are absolutely essential to
set the moral and professional ethos so necessary
for the military.

I'm sure their lead by Vietnam era officers so I can understand your dissapointment. Showing a comedy to a tyrant is funny, but not torment.... I poshed this because I tought it was funny and that some moonbats would be horified.
OTB

 

[Asterix]

The film was made when Saddam was still a tyrant and was still boasting that he was going to take down America. Whether or not the incident happened, it drives home a powerful message: the free world doesn't just make fun of tyrants; it kicks their asses, puts them in chains, and then makes fun of them some more. This is a particularly important message to send to those parts of the world where force is respected above everything else and American institutions of free speech and ridicule of authority figures are often mistaken for weakness, since those populations are most at risk to submit to tyrants like Saddam, Hitler, etc.

Film? It was based on a syndicted cartoon, truncy. To force him to watch a cartoon once he was in chains is a pointless adolescent antic, one I would have thought we were above. Weany, as I said.

 

[Truncador]

If it makes you feel any better, Saddam probably took it as a compliment, since the film depicted Saddam and Satan in an abusive gay relationship, with Saddam as the abuser. Making Satan your bitch- there's no higher form of flattery for a despot than that. I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be one of his standard demagogic boasts all along...

 

[maxweber]

bright moments

If it makes you feel any better, Saddam probably took it as a compliment, since the film depicted Saddam and Satan in an abusive gay relationship, with Saddam as the abuser. Making Satan your bitch- there's no higher form of flattery for a despot than that. I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be one of his standard demagogic boasts all along...

Doesn't all this just prove the point that degrading a prisoner is mean-spirited, chikldish, and undignified? The majesty of liberty and the law is best upheld by treating every prisoner justly and fairly. How can we claim that we're any better than Saddam, if we ourselves act like he does?

MW

 

[Truncador]

Doesn't all this just prove the point that degrading a prisoner is mean-spirited, chikldish, and undignified? The majesty of liberty and the law is best upheld by treating every prisoner justly and fairly. How can we claim that we're any better than Saddam, if we ourselves act like he does?

MW

"Acting like Saddam does" would mean Bush holding Saddam's decapitated head up in the air while exhorting the crowd from the balcony and repeatedly shooting it with a handgun. It's true that, by treating Saddam humanely just like any other prisoner, the American State in its towering majesty treats him with the deepest possible form of contempt- which is why they're doing exactly that. The South Park incident is obviously a self-promoting fancy of the film's producers.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

"Acting like Saddam does" would mean Bush holding Saddam's decapitated head up in the air while exhorting the crowd from the balcony and repeatedly shooting it with a handgun. It's true that, by treating Saddam humanely just like any other prisoner, the American State in its towering majesty treats him with the deepest possible form of contempt- which is why they're doing exactly that. The South Park incident is obviously a self-promoting fancy of the film's producers.

Don't mind Max, his heart doesn't really bleed for Saddam. He just thinks his pathetic argument makes him more righteous than the rest of us.

In the meantime, until Sen. John Mccain considers viewing movies a form of torture, I'll consider it a form of entertainment. I'm positive he has more experience with the subject than Max.

 

[onthebottom]

Don't mind Max, his heart doesn't really bleed for Saddam. He just thinks his pathetic argument makes him more righteous than the rest of us.

In the meantime, until Sen. John Mccain considers viewing movies a form of torture, I'll consider it a form of entertainment. I'm positive he has more experience with the subject than Max.

I knew a few would have that reaction, that was half the fun of posting it.

I liked the movie btw.

OTB