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RIP Jack Layton

HOF

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Relocating February 1, 2012
Layton's letter to Canada was moving.
 

NoFatties

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Layton's letter to Canada was moving.
I had a bit of a chuckle from it. As in my other posts, I did have respect for him and the tenacity to fight for his party. He knew people would be reading his last statement and so with the limelight on him this one last time, he gave his last pitch for the NDP party. I thought the last paragraph was taken directly from one of his campaign ads for the last election.
 

Muddy

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Jack Layton will be sorely missed. There are grand people in the NDP, but I don't see another Layton. And that means that that bastard Harper will be able to get away with a lot more than he would have been able to do with Layton leading the opposition. A sad day for this country, with bully boys at City Hall, a cipher at Queen's Park, and the terrible possibility that we shall have another ignorant, inexperienced Mike Harris sound-alike to fuck up the provincial works for another four years....
 

FatOne

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Nice.
I hope someone pisses on your grave when you meet your end.
Idiot.
If I were a smug little cunt up to no good, then I hope so also.
 

wigglee

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he was earnest, humble, eternally optomistic and dedicated to his life's work: social justice through politics....too bad we won't have him pointing out harper's real agenda and contempt for fair and open democracy in Ottawa.
 

oil&gas

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Wonder why the type of cancer that killed Layton was
never mentioned (or if it was I must have missed it) although
his early diagnosis of prostate cancer was well reported.
Not to say there is a cover-up but I have a feeling that
the cause of Layton's death is the treatment he received
prior to his 'recovery'.
 

LancsLad

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Am I wrong or has Lanc Lads post been deleted/removed?

He says some outlandish things and it appears even he thinks that's the case today and removed it. Too bad as it also shows he doesn't always stand behind what he posts. Some might call it trolling.

It seems to be removed, but not by me. Clearly the mods thought that only platitudes were jackieboys due today.

I stand behind all my postings, those still here and those cleansed by others.
 

omegaphallic

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I fully agree, especially when you compare them to every other party on the federal scene.
It will be interesting to see if the NDP continues the drift to the centre and become even more pragmatic as Jack worked to do.
I really don't believed in a concrete centre. The centre is dependant on the position of its sides which is always on the move, so the centre is always on the move. I looked at Jack's decisions for instant on cutting small business taxes as a way to reach out to more Canadians by realizing that they might have a different set of needs that could be addressed and which were being under serviced by the other parties. Of course if this broadened the appeal of the NPD to those that bought into the myth of centralism so much the better.

Still Jack's legacy is evident in Andrea Horwath's campaign in Ontario which was obviously influenced by Jack's federal campaign. Those that run to be his successor with do so with a mix of new ideas and Jack Layton influence, both those on the right and left of the party.

I hope someone writes a indepth biography of Jack's whole life, I'd read that in a heartbeat.
 

LancsLad

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Clearly, you have no class at all. There is a big difference between sympathy for the person and agreement with his politics. When somebody dies in horrible circumstances, your sympathy is given out of respect for the person and their family. It has nothing to do with their politics or beliefs. When Stephen Harper spoke about Layton's illness, did you think he was being a hypocrite?

Politicans have to maintain a civil appearance, I am not under similar constraints. Seems that only soft peddling comments are allowed when its about a lefty. Viscious barbs about Conservatives seem to be welcomed and applauded. Rather biased I would say.

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blackrock13

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It seems to be removed, but not by me. Clearly the mods thought that only platitudes were jackieboys due today.

I stand behind all my postings, those still here and those cleansed by others.
Well the good news is you didn't remove it, and you usually do stand by what you posted, but the bad news is you didn't remove and someone else.
 

danmand

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It seems to be removed, but not by me. Clearly the mods thought that only platitudes were jackieboys due today.

I stand behind all my postings, those still here and those cleansed by others.

Thats your opinion. You are still entitled to one as people like taliban jackie are not in charge.

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Your mother forgot to tell you to stop digging when you find yourself in a hole.
 

blackrock13

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I'm confused as to why this thread got moved to the P&IA forum when clearly many (1500+) wanted to see, know and comment on his passing, not just political junkies. Oh well.
 

james t kirk

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I have been thinking about his "second cancer" and I can't help but think that he knew about it prior to and during the campaign. He suffered a mysterious broken hip that he did not explain prior to the campaign. Genrally speaking hips just don't break in 61 year old males without an acompanying fall.

At first when I heard that he died today, I thought, "wow, that's fast" and I suspected pancreatic cancer as I've gone through that with family members and it moves incredibly fast. However, upon further thought, I have to believe that the broken hip was a result of some form of cancer.

Jack knew he was finished, but he knew that if he threw in the towel prior to the election, the NDP would go into the election with a largely unknown leader and I think we can all agree that the NDP would not have faired as well as they did in the last election sans Jack Layton.

So he went down fighting.

All this is purely speculation as the family has not released any details. (Why I don't know.)
 

PolrBear

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Now who will keep Harper on track. Jack was a good match for Harpo.
Rest well Jack
 

ctv250

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What if one of the usual morons posted an idiotic comments and no one took the bait? I wonder if they'd go away?

RIP, Jack.
 

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Throughout my day I have observed that the "right" ,for the most part, has been very kind and gracious in their comments regarding the passing of Mr Layton. I cant help wonder however if these same kind comments would be extended to Mr Harper if the situation was different. Sadly this is a rhetorical question.
 

james t kirk

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Throughout my day I have observed that the "right" ,for the most part, has been very kind and gracious in their comments regarding the passing of Mr Layton. I cant help wonder however if these same kind comments would be extended to Mr Harper if the situation was different. Sadly this is a rhetorical question.
Jack was seen more as a man of the people.

Harper - while I'm sure everyone would be gracious, he (Harper) is not a man of the people. He just isn't. Kim Campbell once was supposed to tour some auto plant. Can't remember if it was Oshawa, or Oakville, whatever. When her handlers told her that she was going to tour the plant and meet with the workers, her response was, "what could I possibly have in common with them" Unfortuntately for Kim, word got out. But she was being honest. She has nothing in common with a guy who wields and impact wrench. Harper, pretty much the same. But Jack, you could see Jack sitting down for lunch with a bunch of guys cleaning out sewers and being ok with it.

Even Trudeau, as much as an intellectual as he was - he seemed to transcend the socio econic boundries in our country that guys like Harper just don't and never will.

Something about Conservatives - they're always seen as "the money party" The party of big business and old boy connections and doing things to help the rich. (Whether this is right or wrong is irrelevant - it just is the popular perception.) Hence they (Conservatives) don't enjoy the same popularity of those in the centre / centre-left. I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a Conservative politician who would be loved as a man of the people and I can't. Maybe Churchill, if that counts. And that would be about they only one I could think of. Reagan. Reagan was loved by those on the left and the right.

Case in point...I'm almost tempted to buy one.

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blackrock13

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Throughout my day I have observed that the "right" ,for the most part, has been very kind and gracious in their comments regarding the passing of Mr Layton. I cant help wonder however if these same kind comments would be extended to Mr Harper if the situation was different. Sadly this is a rhetorical question.
Rhetorical isn't quite the word I'd use.
 
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