Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

Phil C. McNasty

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All I will say is that I am highly skeptical of the UN report. Because as we have seen time and time again the UN is corrupt and under increasing control from Muslim nations and their sympathizers
So am I.

Also if you read that link it says "U.S. and Afghan forces killed 717 civilians". It doesnt break down how many the US killed vs. Afghanis.
Afghan forces dont have the same smart bomb and cruise missile technology the US has, so its logical they would have more collateral damage.

BTW you're arguing with a guy who openly supports Hamas. Their motto is: https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=h..._occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=

Article 8 The Hamas document reiterates the Muslim Brotherhood's slogan of "Allah is its goal, the Prophet is the model, the Qur'an its constitution, jihad its path, and death for the sake of Allah its most sublime belief."
Which beautifully plays into my thread title :nod:
I really should thank him, but I've decided to stop responding to him because he's a complete waste of my time
 

Frankfooter

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BTW you're arguing with a guy who openly supports Hamas.
Bullshit, Phil.
I support treating both sides equally before the law, I don't support Hamas any more than I support Netanyahu.
The problem for you is that Israel regularly kills about 9-10 times as many civilians as Palestinians.
Which leaves you as the one supporting killing civilians here, not me.
 

Frankfooter

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All I will say is that I am highly skeptical of the UN report. Because as we have seen time and time again the UN is corrupt and under increasing control from Muslim nations and their sympathizers.
The UN is more trustworthy than either the IDF or Hamas, and certainly way more trustworthy than Trump and his 15,000 lies.
Trump won his third lie of the year award from politifact.
Congrats.
 

K Douglas

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Bullshit, Phil.
I support treating both sides equally before the law, I don't support Hamas any more than I support Netanyahu.
The problem for you is that Israel regularly kills about 9-10 times as many civilians as Palestinians.
Which leaves you as the one supporting killing civilians here, not me.
You also realize that Israel has the capability of wiping out the Arabs in Gaza and West Bank. But they don't. The reason why they are killing more civilians than the Arabs is because Arabs use civilians as human shields. They're heinous.
 

Frankfooter

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You also realize that Israel has the capability of wiping out the Arabs in Gaza and West Bank. But they don't. The reason why they are killing more civilians than the Arabs is because Arabs use civilians as human shields. They're heinous.
The reason why they are killing more civilians is because they are illegally occupying Palestine and ruling it as an apartheid, concentration camp.
The natives are just rebelling.

12% of infant deaths in Gaza are directly caused by Israel's blockade.
https://www.juancole.com/2019/12/blockade-contaminated-illnesses.html
 

K Douglas

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The reason why they are killing more civilians is because they are illegally occupying Palestine and ruling it as an apartheid, concentration camp.
The natives are just rebelling.

12% of infant deaths in Gaza are directly caused by Israel's blockade.
https://www.juancole.com/2019/12/blockade-contaminated-illnesses.html
Wrong wrong and more wrong. Juan Cole.............laughable. The Arabs in Gaza and West Bank are suffering due to corrupt and ineffective leadership. If it weren't for Arafat and his Swiss bank accounts they would be thriving today.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Wrong wrong and more wrong. Juan Cole.............laughable. The Arabs in Gaza and West Bank are suffering due to corrupt and ineffective leadership. If it weren't for Arafat and his Swiss bank accounts they would be thriving today
They also have no (legit) democracy. Anyone who's against Hamas is ostracized.

And the reason why Israel has those Gaza blockades is because if they didn't the Gaza strip would be flooded with weapons
 

Frankfooter

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They also have no (legit) democracy. Anyone who's against Hamas is ostracized.

And the reason why Israel has those Gaza blockades is because if they didn't the Gaza strip would be flooded with weapons
Yes, and over 2 million people living under Israeli rule aren't allowed to vote.
Even within Israel no government will ever be formed that includes the 'Arab' parties.
Like you said, no legitimate democracy.

Of course Phil likes to justify the blockade that is responsible for 12% of all kids deaths just in bad water by suggesting that all Palestinians are evil and would just kill if they got clean water, food and jobs.

Same shit, different countries.
 

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Standard op for U.S military forces is to keep civilian casualties to a minimum which is great PR but makes actually winning wars impossible

would the allies been able to defeat the Nazis without harming civilians? NO

you defeat an enemy by pounding them into submission or destroying them

the west will actively confront right wing groups they are always automatically "white nationalist: neo Nazis we NEVER hear the media or governments state its lone wolf and NOTHING to do with Nazis or white nationalist

but when its Muslims they dance around never calling it Islamic terrorism and the first statements are always about how its a lone wolf and Nothing to do with Muslim or Islam and how amazing Muslims are
 

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the west will actively confront right wing groups they are always automatically "white nationalist: neo Nazis we NEVER hear the media or governments state its lone wolf and NOTHING to do with Nazis or white nationalist

but when its Muslims they dance around never calling it Islamic terrorism and the first statements are always about how its a lone wolf and Nothing to do with Muslim or Islam and how amazing Muslims are
Are you on crack?
 

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Standard op for U.S military forces is to keep civilian casualties to a minimum which is great PR but makes actually winning wars impossible

would the allies been able to defeat the Nazis without harming civilians? NO

you defeat an enemy by pounding them into submission or destroying them
Your said "strategy" has never won a war - ever and never will.
War is only won when both sides compromise. Pounding to submission has never actually worked, and obliteration has never actually happened either.
Lastly the US has gotten into a lot of wars but have they ever "won" any? They all seem to suck money from the american tax payer for decades, and return nothing to them.
 

K Douglas

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Your said "strategy" has never won a war - ever and never will.
War is only won when both sides compromise. Pounding to submission has never actually worked, and obliteration has never actually happened either.
Lastly the US has gotten into a lot of wars but have they ever "won" any? They all seem to suck money from the american tax payer for decades, and return nothing to them.
But what happens when one side refuses to compromise and doesn't exhibit any modicum of rational thought and behavior? Diplomacy only works when both sides want to come to peaceful agreement.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Your said "strategy" has never won a war - ever and never will.
War is only won when both sides compromise. Pounding to submission has never actually worked, and obliteration has never actually happened either
You sure?? Germany and Japan "compromised" pretty quickly when they were bombed into oblivion by the US in WW2
 
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