Revealed: How the five wealthiest Gulf Nations have so far refused to take a refugee

[Frankfooter]

In the case of Israel clearly they are surrounded by Arab populations that wish to annihilate and ethnically cleanse them. If Israel ceased being Jewish majority the result would be the ethnic cleansing and annihilation of the Jews there. So they have an existential reason to preserve and grow that Jewish majority, since their actual survival depends on it.

Given the fact that Israel has a population of 'Israeli Arabs' that have been living peacefully within the country for over half a decade your speech just looks like hate speech.
Give them equal rights (or something close to it, like in Israel) and then they will live peacefully.

You sound like a racist claiming that the 'Arabs' are all out to get you.
Its a return to your claims about the UN.

1. The UN has betrayed Israel before, the Israelis do not and should not trust their survival to an organization that has betrayed them and collaborated with their enemies

2. The UN is controlled by dictatorships and no democracy should EVER be subject to dictatorships

3. Israel is a western democracy, and is morally and ethnically superior in every conceivable way to the forces of tyranny that it opposes

It is a fight between civilization and barbarism.

Israel is not a suitable country for Arab refugees.

Why is it that Israel, a country of refugees created through world wide compassion at the UN is now building a wall around its border with Syria and refusing to help refugees?
Never forget?????

 

[basketcase]

Of course they caused it....

Yep. Blame the US but don't blame the people who are actually slaughtering civilians.

A quick skimming through the news has Assad's forces and their Iranian and Hezbollah supporters indiscriminately killing children (not that IS is any better). A news story I read recently has Assad's people having killed around 2,000 children this year and IS etc having killed 300 or so. They've easily reached a civilian death toll of a quarter million yet you don't feel fit to blame the actual killers.

 

[basketcase]

Why is it that you complain about gulf states but ignore one of Syria's biggest neighbours, who had been doing the favour of taking care of some of Israel's refugees for nearly half a century?

Anyone find it surprising that he refuses to criticize Arab countries but instead find the time to criticize Israel?

 

[FAST]

Anyone find it surprising that he refuses to criticize Arab countries but instead find the time to criticize Israel?

No actually its not,...just consider the source,...!!!


FAST

 

[fuji]

Given the fact that Israel has a population of 'Israeli Arabs' that have been living peacefully within the country for over half a decade your speech just looks like hate speech.
Give them equal rights (or something close to it, like in Israel) and then they will live peacefully.

You sound like a racist claiming that the 'Arabs' are all out to get you.
Its a return to your claims about the UN.








Why is it that Israel, a country of refugees created through world wide compassion at the UN is now building a wall around its border with Syria and refusing to help refugees?
Never forget?????

To prevent an influx of Arab refugees. I explained why above, you don't like blunt truth: Israel's survival depends on Israel remaining a Jewish majority state. Jews have been ethnically cleansed from every single Arab majority state.

You know this. That is why you want Israel to become an Arab majority state, so that the Jews can be ethnically cleansed.

You hate Jews and you want them dead and gone.

 

[Frankfooter]

To prevent an influx of Arab refugees. I explained why above, you don't like blunt truth: Israel's survival depends on Israel remaining a Jewish majority state..

Yes, you and Israel are worried about 'droves' of Arabs.

On Israeli election day, Netanyahu warns of Arabs voting ‘in droves’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ay-netanyahu-warns-of-arabs-voting-in-droves/

Very racist of you.
You claim you support democracy, but you don't, you support a state based on racism.

 

[SkyRider]

why do you blame gulf states like UAE, Qatar, koweit, Bahrain which are even smaller

Gulf states are Muslim. Shouldn't Muslims help fellow Muslims (brothers under the skin, common ancestry, same religion and culture and maybe same language, history)? Yet, they expect non-Muslim states in Europe and Jewish state like Israel to offer sanctuary to their fellow Muslims. BTW: Western Europe is not yet Islamic.

 

[jsanchez]

I don't understand what faith has to do with it. Also how did you know that all the refugees are Muslim? This is a weird way of accepting refugees based on faith criteria.
So I'm assuming that you agree with Slovakia's policy that said they will accept Syrian refugees only if they are Christians? And why western countries didn't ask Vietnamese refugees in the 70's to look for another non Christian country?

He seems to look at events only from a narrow religious perspective.

 

[onthebottom]

Nope. See my reply to go west. The reality is that every Arab majority state has violently ethnically cleansed itself of Jews. In such a context it is racist to push for things that will let to such an ethnic cleansing.

Same reason why you wouldn't overrun Kosovo or Bosnia with Serbian refugees.

This does a nice job of exposing the racist flaw in the Israel republic.

 

[basketcase]

The funny thing is that Netanyahu's...

So no comment on the Gulf states then? Why does Frankengroggy feel the need to turn every topic into a condemnation of Israel?

 

[basketcase]

This does a nice job of exposing the racist flaw in the Israel republic.

So the whole thing about Syria still being officially at war with Israel doesn't enter into your thinking?

 

[jcpro]

Syria, Syria, Syria... A very large percentage of the refugees are not Syrian at all. The Erutrians form a very large contingent, Pakistanis, Iraqis, and quite a few Africans making their way through failed Libya.

 

[fuji]

This does a nice job of exposing the racist flaw in the Israel republic.

It is neither racism nor a flaw. You can't HONESTLY sit there and say Kosovo and Bosnia should allow unlimited Serbian immigration, pretending you don't know what that would lead to. You can't HONESTLY say that attempts to generate mass Arab immigration into Israel are innocent.

You can only dishonestly say those things.

I can shut you down by speaking the blunt truth while your have to dodge issues and avoid topics to maintain that position.

 

[nottyboi]

Yep. Blame the US but don't blame the people who are actually slaughtering civilians.

A quick skimming through the news has Assad's forces and their Iranian and Hezbollah supporters indiscriminately killing children (not that IS is any better). A news story I read recently has Assad's people having killed around 2,000 children this year and IS etc having killed 300 or so. They've easily reached a civilian death toll of a quarter million yet you don't feel fit to blame the actual killers.

How do you know that is true? Israel killed 600 children last year and that didn't seem to bother you, instead you were staunchly defending it. Assad is fighting a war he did not start, against people bent on killing him and his allies. Israel was under no existential threat when it chose to start a war and kill 600 children in the process.

 

[basketcase]

How do you know that is true? Israel killed 600 children last year and that didn't seem to bother you, instead you were staunchly defending it. Assad is fighting a war he did not start, against people bent on killing him and his allies. Israel was under no existential threat when it chose to start a war and kill 600 children in the process.

You went ape-shit when the war in Gaza resulted in civilian deaths yet here you are justifying Assad's slaughter of innocents.

And it was Assad's brutal oppression that started that war. The original protesters were trying to get rights and protesting the arrest, torture, and disappearance of people critical of Assad. Unfortunately the opposition has become more religious extremism but that's not how things started. Assad could have agreed to democratic reforms before the Islamists gained power but instead he clung to Iranian support and dug in his heels.

You made dozens and dozens of posts against Israel yet a quarter million dead Syrians and over 10 million refugees or internally displaced and all you can do is claim it's not Assad's fault.

 

[Frankfooter]

And it was Assad's brutal oppression that started that war.

Assad flamed the fires, but the original fires were caused by climate change and drought. That brought farmers out protesting and the whole thing snowballed.
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/WCAS-D-13-00059.1
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/s...to-drought-caused-by-climate-change.html?_r=0
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...will-trigger-more-war-in-future-10081163.html

 

[fuji]

How do you know that is true? Israel killed 600 children last year and that didn't seem to bother you, instead you were staunchly defending it. Assad is fighting a war he did not start, against people bent on killing him and his allies. Israel was under no existential threat when it chose to start a war and kill 600 children in the process.

Correction: Hamas killed 600 children by using them as human shields.

And comparing the techniques Assad has used to the Gaza war highlights how ethically IDF fights. IDF tries to target exactly, often warning civilians away from the exact site targeted.

And Assad? Carpet bombs entire neighborhood turning whole suburbs into smoking ruins, then posts snipers to kill all the survivors.

 

[Frankfooter]

Correction: Hamas killed 600 children by using them as human shields.

No, Israel killed them all.

 

[fuji]

No, Israel killed them all.

Of course you think that using children as human shields is a praise worthy and legitimate military practice, which is why you praised Hamas and compared them to Nelson Mandela. Because you believe launching rockets from a school is just like Mandela's non violent method.

The rest of us think you are sick in the head, and blame Hamas for deaths resulting from their use of human shields around their rocket launchers.

 

[rhuarc29]

Israel is not a suitable country for Arab refugees, given the history of anti Israeli violence by Arabs.

Canada is a great country for these people. I believe Syria's loss should be Canada's gain. These are not economic refugees, they are hard working regular people who will benefit whatever country they wind up in.

That's kind of a blanket statement, don't you think? The refugees are a diverse bunch, some of whom will be how you describe. And some who aren't.

Considering the anti-West sentiment in much of the Muslim world, I'm not sure why you think Canada is a great place for them.... I don't believe we should allow special circumstances for these refugees. We should follow our existing guidelines. That said, a lot can be done to make the process far more efficient.