Ok here is the situation, several months ago I applied for a federal govt position and now they have gotten back to me stating they are processing my resume further, but I recently remembered that I stated a volunteer unpaid job which I never did but wanted to only brush up the resume for other types of work, do I come out and admit it to their HR dept guy or not? I do really want this job
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There's probably no way to come out of this smelling like roses if you tell the truth. I've seen people fired for small discrepancies after being hired and having a delayed resume check. Now you'll have to lie to cover the lie. Hopefully you left the details vague enough so that a reference check won't be possible. Maybe you can get away with saying everyone you volunteered with is no longer there. Good luck!
From the advice my cousin gave me when I start working at bell canada, never lie on your resume it will always come out and bit you on the ass.
With volunteer work, there is soo many places out there that need volunteer work. and helpers like coming I am volunteering for Syliva Brown convention you can do it at the metro convention centre, not many people even know it's coming up or even going on.
and there is soo many events in toronto that are small and only advertised word of mouth it's hard to track them down. like a soccer club, school pinic, school car wash, anything to do with youth that they plan withing thier community or school is very hard to track.
I use to volunteer at brampton track team, most people only know of brampton team and not breamlea team. The smaller places that need volunteers don't have a huge amout of paper work, they just need the extra hands to get the work done even those club promoters downtown toronto they are paid unless you call payment getting intoa club free.
With volunteer work, there is soo many places out there that need volunteer work. and helpers like coming I am volunteering for Syliva Brown convention you can do it at the metro convention centre, not many people even know it's coming up or even going on.
and there is soo many events in toronto that are small and only advertised word of mouth it's hard to track them down. like a soccer club, school pinic, school car wash, anything to do with youth that they plan withing thier community or school is very hard to track.
I use to volunteer at brampton track team, most people only know of brampton team and not breamlea team. The smaller places that need volunteers don't have a huge amout of paper work, they just need the extra hands to get the work done even those club promoters downtown toronto they are paid unless you call payment getting intoa club free.
I totally disagree. I lied on my resume and said I had a degree in English and me ain't been callled on its yet.MinnieApple said:
I don't see where you lied, so you don't have to tell any lies any further. Bring an updated resume to the interview, and treat the volunteer job as an activity and not employment.
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If you mention it now... you won't get the job... you lied.
If they check with the charity or organization that you didn't volunteer with... you won't get the job... you lied.
But the odds of them checking a volunteer reference is highly unlikely and you should make it through. I would be more concerned about them asking you questions in the interview about what you did while "volunteering". If that happens.. your next decision will be whether you want to continue lying.
Sorry... but you asked.
If they check with the charity or organization that you didn't volunteer with... you won't get the job... you lied.
But the odds of them checking a volunteer reference is highly unlikely and you should make it through. I would be more concerned about them asking you questions in the interview about what you did while "volunteering". If that happens.. your next decision will be whether you want to continue lying.
Sorry... but you asked.
If you dont have a contact name or number for someone that you "worked for" at this volunteer job, they wont take the time to track it down. They may do a background check on your criminal and credit history, call your last 1-2 employers and check your personal references... but even that is a stretch, and only if there is a red flag somewhere along the way.scouser1 said:
You have a guilty conscience, nothing more. Dont sweat it.
WTF does that mean?!? Is that a nice way of saying you lied on your resume?scouser1 said:
Bottom line is, don't lie on your resume. You can embellish or emphasize one part over another, but never lie. It will only come back to haunt you (sometimes years later). The more serious the job is (i.e., the greater the security risk), the more extensive the background check they'll do.
Down the road if they want to get rid of you, for whatever reason, finding out that you lied on your resume is a great way to do it. And when they want to get rid of you, they may go checkin' some of those "facts" they glossed over previously.
Not to mention the ethical issues. In my line of work, once your credibility is gone you might as well start thinking about a new career b/c no one will ever trust you again.
Btw, unless you're applying for a job for a not-for-profit company or a business that is somehow linked into charities, HR doesn't give a fuck about your volunteer work (unless you're young and it's all the experience you've got). It's the bottom line that counts.
You screwed up. At this point I don't think there's any good way out. Just keep your mouth shut and hope they don't notice. At best, file an "updated" resume with them that omits the lie about the volunteer work, without explaining why. If you reformat or rearrange the resume a bit the omission will be less noticable.
I think everyone has exagerrated things on their resume at some point but an outright lie is just plain stupid--unless like on another thread you have pre-prepared someone to serve as a reference for you, and corroborate the lie. Then it goes from being just plain stupid to ethically questionable as per the other thread about this awhile back.
I think everyone has exagerrated things on their resume at some point but an outright lie is just plain stupid--unless like on another thread you have pre-prepared someone to serve as a reference for you, and corroborate the lie. Then it goes from being just plain stupid to ethically questionable as per the other thread about this awhile back.
In large corporations, government-run organizations, and ministry offices they have access to a service whose sole purpose is to scrutinize every detail of your resume for confirmation of job history and education. They do not access this service for every applicant -- just the ones they hire. You may very well get the job but will not keep it long. Keep applying and change your resume. If you are going to lie choose a defunct organization -- one that you happen know did exist but no longer does.
I used to exagerrate my education without outright lying. I had a highly misleading statement on my resume:
(unfortunately not my real university or program). Most people assumed that "4 years" meant that I had a 4 year degree, while I claimed it meant I studied there in that program for 4 years but without graduating (which was true). Only once did someone query me on whether I had really graduated, and I said no, I'm short 2 credits. I didn't get that job, but I did get lots of other jobs. Few people ever queried me about my education, but instead generally grilled me about my work experience. I had some stretches there too, early on, but nothing as big as the "4 years" stretch.
Eventually I did go back and complete the missing 2 credits and get the degree, not because the stretch on my resume wasn't working out, but because I wanted to enroll in a post-grad program and you can't get away with the "4 years" trick on an application to graduate or professional schools
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Bring'em Young University, Hons. Women's Studies, 4 yearsEventually I did go back and complete the missing 2 credits and get the degree, not because the stretch on my resume wasn't working out, but because I wanted to enroll in a post-grad program and you can't get away with the "4 years" trick on an application to graduate or professional schools
