Respect the MA

[fall]

I'm sorry what do you have to loose that we don't?

Family (wife and kids) and good paying government job. So, basically, everything. In the worst case scenario SPs will have to move (if they conduct their business at a rental property) and their parents/friends may find out (but most of them know it anyway). I doubt SPs can hide their profession from their spouses (if they are married) and since sex work is not against the law, they cannot be fired from unionised job. Clients, however, commit crimes, so, they can be easily fired.

Basically, SPs have the same things to loses as a single 35 y.o. client who works as a mechanic or an electrician. However, a 45 y.o. guy with government job and a family has much more to lose than a regular SP

 

[asuran]

I know quite a few SP that have a government-related job.

 

[Mishman527]

This is exactly what many providers complain about in the industry. The dehumanization of sex workers and the services they offer. My parents know what I do, I could care less if a client contacted them my family may not agree with my decisions but they respect that it is my choice. I'm safe that's the most important part to them.

I've lost two jobs in the last year before returning to SW. The fact that someone is willing to go out of their way to out me to an employer twice because of a personal issue with me as an individual is ridiculous.

I've even heard of clients calling child protective services because they feel someone in this career choice is an inadequate parent. While you may feel someone who makes these career choices may be beneath you nothing could be further from the truth.

Let's move onto housing. I know providers who have lost their place of residence because they worked from home and disagreed with a client.

I know providers who have been kicked out of programs for being outed, shit but that not a significant investment whatsoever right.

I can go on and on. . .

Your views and attitudes towards those that you view as being "beneath" you is clear. I'd like to remind you that having money doesn't make you a better person. However the character you demonstrate towards those you view as lesser then yourself does.

xo

Kay

SP's need to be legitimized as a career or at least a respectable service job like any other.

A significant part of this economy is the service industry. SP's are just one more category.

 

[fall]

Working for the government doesnt make you a better person or more entitled than any other client. It just means you wanted a good pension and a stable job. You feel your career choices mean you stand to lose more than the next person when in reality your the exact same.

I've known ladies who have had to have reconstructive surgeries to correct anatomy because of things clients have done. But your right your body and your physical health are priceless. I dont know where you got your information but I've also heard of SWs being fired from unionized jobs. Let's not get into the creepy things your boss approaches you on when asks if you wanna keep your job.

Why is it you feel SW have no families? Is it so reprehensible to you that someone could want a family and possibly marry someone from the industry. Please take your colonialistic and possibly catholic views back to the 90s where they belong.

xo

Kay

I never said that I am a better person, I am saying that I have more to lose. While parents/siblings may be forgiving when it comes to being SP or using SPs services, spouses are not. Assuming that it is rare to have married SP whose spouse does not know what she does for a living, risk of broken marriage is specific to clients only (all other social risks of exposure is the same for clients and SPs). It is hard to fire a person from unionised work if he/she does not commit a crime, so, maybe it is uncomfortable that SP can be exposed to her colleagues/boss, labour laws protect her from being fired (she may still be ridiculed though). Client who commits a crime of paying for sex can be fired. So, again, unique risk for the client. Furthermore, the higher is the wage people earn on that unionised work, the more they have to lose. Since most clients earn above $100K (and majority above $150K) and you can rarely find an SP earning this amount from unionized job, again, we have higher risk for clients.

Yes, SP may have safety risk of meeting some jerks, while for clients such risk is much smaller (at most, they can be jumped by a pimp), but it is a different type of risk, not a risk of a real name exposure.

So, to summarise: clients have more to lose from being exposed, SPs have higher risk of being physically violated

 

[fall]

Im sorry do you not think we each have our own lives? Many girls I know are gov worker and have families too.
My partner knows what I do, but many peoples partners dont. Lots of us have kids and it would effect our kids lives a lot with their schooling, friends, etc..

PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE SUPERIOR, like seriously get a reality check.
If you think you are so much better than us please stop seeing us, we are humans who demand the same respect you do.

I am just curious, how SP are able to hide her SP job from her husband?

 

[fall]

I know quite a few SP that have a government-related job.

Are they in upper-middle-management position earning earn $100K+ from it? If not, the costs of her losing her job is smaller than for a client whose sole income is this job and whose future income depends on his reputation. I understand SPs concern about safety, but when it comes to the name exposure, clients have much more to lose.

 

[gibarian]

You're unbelievably naive and paranoid at the same time, which is impressive.

Exactly what sort of situation are you imagining where this "exposure" could realistically translate into the loss of your job? Please run through your specific fears event by event.

Someone tries to blackmail you, you refuse to comply, so their next move is... to email your workplace and say "FYI your employee likes to see escorts"?

And the HR department just takes the word of what is clearly an anonymous, malicious interloper and fires you? Or, wait, you said it was a union job, so unless a crime was committed you're in the clear. So this blackmailer is also constructing a watertight legal case against you, and dropping it into the laps of LE? Who actually decide to trust, care, and follow through, for some reason?

That's a paranoid fantasy, so let's cut the bullshit and focus on what you're actually afraid of: your wife and family finding out. Which is a reasonable fear, because there's no burden of proof or plausibility for them taking an anonymous accusation seriously. So the long and the short of it is that you're scared of having to suffer what would be an earned and completely just punishment for falsely participating in a monogamous relationship. You don't get a lot of sympathy for that; it's a voluntary risk you've chosen to undertake by lying.

 

[fall]

You're unbelievably naive and paranoid at the same time, which is impressive.

Exactly what sort of situation are you imagining where this "exposure" could realistically translate into the loss of your job? Please run through your specific fears event by event.

Someone tries to blackmail you, you refuse to comply, so their next move is... to email your workplace and say "FYI your employee likes to see escorts"?

And the HR department just takes the word of what is clearly an anonymous, malicious interloper and fires you? Or, wait, you said it was a union job, so unless a crime was committed you're in the clear. So this blackmailer is also constructing a watertight legal case against you, and dropping it into the laps of LE? Who actually decide to trust, care, and follow through, for some reason?

That's a paranoid fantasy, so let's cut the bullshit and focus on what you're actually afraid of: your wife and family finding out. Which is a reasonable fear, because there's no burden of proof or plausibility for them taking an anonymous accusation seriously. So the long and the short of it is that you're scared of having to suffer what would be an earned and completely just punishment for falsely participating in a monogamous relationship. You don't get a lot of sympathy for that; it's a voluntary risk you've chosen to undertake by lying.

Yes, losing a marriage is a risk. I do not want sympathy, it is just a statement of the fact that this risk exists for clients and not for SPs. Regarding losing the job: a very plausible scenario in case of story going public in media, especially if your boss is not very fond of you. Of cause, if your job is IT support or an office manager, it is not that important, but for a more public figures it is.

 

[fall]

I can imagine the waitlist now on OCAS for “Sex Worker” in the trades section.

Subjects include: communications 101, Business math, book keeping, multi management course in how to perform testicle and fellatio successfully, blowjobs and seductive eye contact performance, various ways to successfully ride a penis to ensure a successful orgasm, sanitize and sterilization the work environment, how to talk to clients who think they want you to be their boyfriends but really you dont.

One year certificate or two year diploma?

Actually, the needed training/education for SP would include: communication, anatomy, massage (optional), public safety, communicative disease, first aid. One year certification is enough. Accounting and management courses will only be needed if she will apply not as a sex worker to work in legal brothels, but as an entrepreneur. Yes, I totally see this as a legitimate business, but it will not be easy to immigrate to Canada based on this job category since the employer will need to show that there is not enough Canadians willing to perform these job.

 

[@VitaminD]

This thread did exactly what it was supposed to do bring awareness to the industry, everyone has issues or something important going on we all must respect each other.. I feel proud for starting this and support all the girls.. you never know what you say behind a screen may have a Negative result on ones mindset that could affect their life / home life/ school / job /

peace
D

 

[boca2020]

This thread did exactly what it was supposed to do bring awareness to the industry, everyone has issues or something important going on we all must respect each other.. I feel proud for starting this and support all the girls.. you never know what you say behind a screen may have a Negative result on ones mindset that could affect their life / home life/ school / job /

peace
D

It is definitely a message that needs to remain in the forefront. I have no doubt though that it will remain a message that can & will be repeated going forward.

 

[Net.Socket]

So the long and the short of it is that you're scared of having to suffer what would be an earned and completely just punishment for falsely participating in a monogamous relationship. You don't get a lot of sympathy for that; it's a voluntary risk you've chosen to undertake by lying.

Very well said.