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Fun For All said:
Here are some thoughts…
-how can the players say they were too drunk to remember but insist she wasn’t?
-if she had regrets when she sobered up tells me she was drunk when the activity went on, you don’t sober up from being sober
-no one not even her said she was held against her will but submitted to them because she thought it was the safest thing to do…much like the victims of Mike Tyson and Kobe Bryant.
-her lying they’re naked saying “who wants to fuck me” is not consent. She can flirt, chirp suggest and tease all day long. It is not consent for everybody to do anything….I didn’t read any consent for back to back to back blowjobs, dropping your shorts and waving your dick in her face is not consent
-Carter Hart said he saw her take Forminton by the hand and lead her into the bathroom while Howden testified he was talking to Farmington outside the bathroom with her in it. Howden cannot consent for Forminton to go fuck her…I believe Carter Hart lied almost every time he spoke
-Howden is definitely covering up. You don’t forget an evening like that and he forgot about 18 details that he previously gave in a statement. He remembers the good details for the players, but forgets the bad details that implicate them.

I wouldn’t be surprised at a mixed verdict…some convictions and some acquittals.
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Can you stop droning on with your stupid opinions?
It's up to the judge now. At least Oracle and K are giving court updates and responding to judge's and lawyers' commentary.
You just keep going on, and on, and on, and on with the same nonsense, all predicated on
your own predetermination of guilt.
 
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mellowjello said:
Can you stop droning on with your stupid opinions?
It's up to the judge now. At least Oracle and K are giving court updates and responding to judge's and lawyers' commentary.
You just keep going on, and on, and on, and on with the same nonsense, all predicated on
your own predetermination of guilt.
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And all you’ve added is insults …you’re an idiot!
 
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Fun For All said:
That might be one of the more intelligent things you’ve said but you set a low bar
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Speaking of low bars, where does pronouncing someone guilty before a trial starts, admitting you don't care what the courts or anyone says,
where does that fit into your low bar scenario?
 
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mellowjello said:
Speaking of low bars, where does pronouncing someone guilty before a trial starts, admitting you don't care what the courts or anyone says,
where does that fit into your low bar scenario?
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Hey stupid, I can give an opinion and it shouldn’t bother anybody. It seems to bother you though.

You haven’t made any comment towards the evidence. All you do is just come on here and insult people, like go fuck off.
 
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Fun For All said:
Hey stupid, I can give an opinion and it shouldn’t bother anybody. It seems to bother you though.

You haven’t made any comment towards the evidence. All you do is just come on here and insult people, like go fuck off.
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What are you so worked up about?
Can't you take a little constructive criticism?
 
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Fun For All said:
-her lying they’re naked saying “who wants to fuck me” is not consent. She can flirt, chirp suggest and tease all day long. It is not consent for everybody to do anything….I didn’t read any consent for back to back to back blowjobs, dropping your shorts and waving your dick in her face is not consent
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'' "The question is: Did the complainant in their mind voluntarily agree to each form of sexual activity with each person with whom a sex act occurred? And the defence's position in their closing arguments really strongly appear to be that consent was present in the mind of E.M. in this case, and that it was actually an enthusiastic level of consent.” Lisa Kelly is an associate professor in the faculty of law at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont.

''Who wants to fuck me'' seems like enthusiastic consent to me...
 
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Funny, I asked you this
mellowjello said:
Speaking of low bars, where does pronouncing someone guilty before a trial starts, admitting you don't care what the courts or anyone says,
where does that fit into your low bar scenario?
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And you responded with this.
Fun For All said:
Hey stupid, I can give an opinion and it shouldn’t bother anybody. It seems to bother you though.

You haven’t made any comment towards the evidence. All you do is just come on here and insult people, like go fuck off.
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WTF?
I'll ask you again,
where does pronouncing someone guilty before a trial starts, admitting you don't care what the courts or anyone says,
where does that fit into your low bar scenario?
 
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mellowjello said:
Funny, I asked you this


And you responded with this.

WTF?
I'll ask you again,
where does pronouncing someone guilty before a trial starts, admitting you don't care what the courts or anyone says,
where does that fit into your low bar scenario?
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My opinion doesn’t have a bar…you as a human is a low bar
 
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The Oracle said:
'' "The question is: Did the complainant in their mind voluntarily agree to each form of sexual activity with each person with whom a sex act occurred? And the defence's position in their closing arguments really strongly appear to be that consent was present in the mind of E.M. in this case, and that it was actually an enthusiastic level of consent.” Lisa Kelly is an associate professor in the faculty of law at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont.

''Who wants to fuck me'' seems like enthusiastic consent to me...
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So you quote what a lawyer says about the defense position…the crown will have a different position and are going to take an entire day to express it.

“Who wants to fuck me” is not consent, she can tease all day…I didn’t hear her consent to blowing three guys back to back to back, again, waving your dick in her face isn’t consent.
 
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A person cannot say they mistakenly believed a person was consenting if:

  • that belief is based on their own intoxication; or
  • they were reckless about whether the person was consenting or;
  • they chose to ignore things that would tell them there was a lack of consent; or
  • they didn’t take proper steps to check if there was consent.
 
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Fun For All said:
I’ll put it up again…

The Law of Consent in Sexual Assault - LEAF

Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...
www.leaf.ca www.leaf.ca
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One question..Answer yes or no...Did you get consent every time you kissed someone?
 
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Sounds like mellow and fun need to just get a room. ;)

regardless, sounds like just doing the right thing was not in play. Sounds more like a hard forecheck all night long.
Instead of a hung jury, haha, let’s see what the judge decides.
 
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harrypalm said:
Sounds like mellow and fun need to just get a room. ;)

regardless, sounds like just doing the right thing was not in play. Sounds more like a hard forecheck all night long.
Instead of a hung jury, haha, let’s see what the judge decides.
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Doing the right thing was definitely not in play.

-E.M could have made better decisions
-the 5 accused could have made better decisions
-a couple players not charged, mainly Howden, could have made better decisions
-The London Police in the first investigation could have made better decisions
-Formenton’s attorney causing the mistrial and jury discharge could have made better decisions
-Formenton’s attorney causing the discharge of the 2nd jury could have made better decisions
 
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