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LivinLarge

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Last week I had a weird experience. I made an outcall appointment with a well-reviewed SP. When she arrived, I wasn’t impressed. I didn’t find her at all attractive and in fact thought that she was pretty damn ugly. Since she had stellar reviews, I thought that I’d give her a go… hell I could close my eyes and pretend I’m with a hottie – LOL. It didn’t work. The girl was pretty aggressive, attempting to DFK, etc., but I really couldn’t get interested.

Has anyone ever refused a girl after she shows up at your door? I'm thinking I should have...
 

moresex4me

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My very first SP experience, total B&S, I was a newbie (still am, I guess, it's been less than 6 months). She did nothing for me so I asked her to leave after about 10 minutes.

It wasn't just the looks, it was the total lack of service. It did lead me to Terb, however, and haven't had an experience that bad since.
 

kohan

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LivinLarge said:
Last week I had a weird experience. I made an outcall appointment with a well-reviewed SP. When she arrived, I wasn’t impressed. I didn’t find her at all attractive and in fact thought that she was pretty damn ugly. Since she had stellar reviews, I thought that I’d give her a go… hell I could close my eyes and pretend I’m with a hottie – LOL. It didn’t work. The girl was pretty aggressive, attempting to DFK, etc., but I really couldn’t get interested.

Has anyone ever refused a girl after she shows up at your door? I'm thinking I should have...

I haven't seen a post covering this topic before, and think it is something worth covering. What are our obligations when we book through an agency either for incall or outcall and you find the lady doesn't live up to our expectations? She has cleared her schedule for the allotted time. Is it acceptable to decline within the first few minutes without paying, or should some kind of offering be made. I haven't been presented with this situation. Unfortunately, my books on etiquette don't cover how to politely decline an escorting engagement.
 

Kirk Lazarus

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I have declined once because the lady forgot to bring condoms and I didn't have any either. She was new so it was understandable. She offered bbbj instead, but because I knew that FS was not going to be available, I declined. It was awkward because she was new and I felt bad for her, but she understood. I briefly considered her staying just for bbbj, but at the full hour, I wanted FS...alas, no equipment, no play.
 

WhaWhaWha

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Between a rock and a hard place
I once walked away from a duo at the door of their hotel room. They were not as they advertised.
 

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If a woman is as advertised, regardless of how I think she 'should' look, I will keep the appointment. I have had many GREAT dates over the years from women I was not initially attracted to. However, if it is a blatant B&S (50 lbs. heavier than advertised, 20 years older, etc.), I have no issues walking or sending her back.
 

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kohan said:
What are our obligations when we book through an agency either for incall or outcall and you find the lady doesn't live up to our expectations?
There isn't any "obligation" so to speak, but there is common courtesy and being a decent human being. Here is my own personal rule.

For incall:

- If she's such B&S that it's obvious when you first walk into the hallway then just turn around and leave. Pay nothing.

- If you go to the bedroom, stay no more than 5 minutes, and nobody is naked yet, pay a small cancellation fee and leave. She must not have been THAT different or you'd have noticed earlier.

- If you stay longer than that or anybody got naked then pay the full fee. You have eyes to see, if you let it go on this long then you are the one jerking her around.

For outcall:

- Exactly the same, but ALWAYS at least pay her enough to cover her cost. If she took a taxi, pay the cab. If she has a driver, pay enough to cover the driver.

You really shouldn't have to pay anything in the outcall case if she is obviously B&S "at the door" but if you don't pay anything, remember, it's your place. Do you really want her kicking up a fuss screaming and yelling and attracting your neighbours attention? Pay her enough so she isn't out of pocket and she'll go away more peacefully.
 

Petite Filet

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Just a ladies point of view.

Promoting yourself honestly, keeps people from walking.

With that said, I have had a couple of newbies show up for incalls that were very nervous and decided not to stay. That was ok with me. One offered a small fee and one didn't. It was nice that it was offered because I would not have asked, even though my time was wasted.

The problem for an SP is that they have allotted a certain amount of time for you. Some can fill that time easily and for others it can be more difficult.

The other is that an SP with an incall location has just given out their address to someone who is not a client. If it is an outcall, I would agree with Fuji. Offer to pay for expenses.
 
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fuji said:
There isn't any "obligation" so to speak, but there is common courtesy and being a decent human being. Here is my own personal rule.

For incall:

- If she's such B&S that it's obvious when you first walk into the hallway then just turn around and leave. Pay nothing.

- If you go to the bedroom, stay no more than 5 minutes, and nobody is naked yet, pay a small cancellation fee and leave. She must not have been THAT different or you'd have noticed earlier.

- If you stay longer than that or anybody got naked then pay the full fee. You have eyes to see, if you let it go on this long then you are the one jerking her around.

For outcall:

- Exactly the same, but ALWAYS at least pay her enough to cover her cost. If she took a taxi, pay the cab. If she has a driver, pay enough to cover the driver.

You really shouldn't have to pay anything in the outcall case if she is obviously B&S "at the door" but if you don't pay anything, remember, it's your place. Do you really want her kicking up a fuss screaming and yelling and attracting your neighbours attention? Pay her enough so she isn't out of pocket and she'll go away more peacefully.
Sent a few outcalls away in my time. Wasn't really BS, age and body type as advertised however, she looked like she had been beaten with the ugly stick more than a few times. That is the risk when ordering from the yellow pages (it is a bit like christmas when you open the door, often I am pleasantly surprised)
Had to pay a $40 cancellation fee, $20 for the driver and $20 for the girls time. Rather send them away without a fuss and roll the dice again.
 

Mrbig1949

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Only one major occurance. A well respected agency in town I had dealt with many times sent a girl I thought was really ugly to see me at a hotel. I had dealt with the boss many times. I got on the phone with the boss and said, if you want me to fuck this girl you are going to have to give me $250. The boss apologized and asked if I would give the girl $50 for transportation and he would send another girl over in one hour for a reduced rate of $200. I did and was quite happy with the sub. I have only done this once and was very happy with the agency's responce. The girl was fired a few days later and last I saw had gone indy.
 

Bubbles99

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Sent a few outcalls away in my time. Wasn't really BS, age and body type as advertised however, she looked like she had been beaten with the ugly stick more than a few times. That is the risk when ordering from the yellow pages (it is a bit like christmas when you open the door, often I am pleasantly surprised)
Had to pay a $40 cancellation fee, $20 for the driver and $20 for the girls time. Rather send them away without a fuss and roll the dice again.
Beaten with a stick eh! Lol!!!
 

LadyTY2Uall

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I have only had two incall clients walk in and change their mind......to be honest I was thoroughly pissed because I state clearly that I am a BBW and a mature woman, neither of these men had bothered to actually read my add or check out my pics, which are accurate. THEY made the mistake but it was MY time that was wasted.
 

Petite Filet

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I have only had two incall clients walk in and change their mind......to be honest I was thoroughly pissed because I state clearly that I am a BBW and a mature woman, neither of these men had bothered to actually read my add or check out my pics, which are accurate. THEY made the mistake but it was MY time that was wasted.
I understand how you feel. I have seen your ads and although I have never met you, they seem very honest.
Since it doesn't happen often, I just take it with a grain of salt, as a part of doing business. Can't be loved by everyone. lol. and thank god we are not all built alike. Variety is the spice of life!
 

Ironhead

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I do not agree with some of the suggestions that I should pay a fee of sorts if the SP arrives and she is not like her pictures or is inaccurately described(more then 15 lbs difference or looks several years off).
Mind you I would not have a first encounter at my place.

I have only had two incall clients walk in and change their mind......to be honest I was thoroughly pissed because I state clearly that I am a BBW and a mature woman, neither of these men had bothered to actually read my add or check out my pics, which are accurate. THEY made the mistake but it was MY time that was wasted.
I agree with Lady's post. If I checked, and I always do, and she is just like her pictures, but for whatever reason I decided to decline, I would pay for the whole session whether she stayed for the time or not.

The difference being that one is an honest representation while the other is misrepresenting.
 

genintoronto

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What fuji said.

I'd rather that a client cancel an appointment with me after realizing that I'm not his type, than following through with it and making it almost impossible for me to give him the good time he's looking for. At a rate of 250/hour, I don't need to be pity fucked, thankyouverymuch.
 
There is no standard rule because not every lady posts honestly and there are different reasons why a guy may send her away.

B&S - send or walk away, no cancelation.

Dishonest posting about age/weight - send or walk away no fee.

If the ad is honest and she is not what you personally what you excepted but not a butterface - meaning you can see some physically qualities you like - then try the session as planed.

If the ad is honest but is not attractive to you then end the session with a cancelation fee. It is only fair.

This is for Indy or Agency.
 

doggee_01

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well i only do outcalls and with the good agency's and allways check out the pic's first -i have never had someone show up that was not like her pic guess if that happened i would give her the cab fee and ask her to leave and call the agency.
 
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