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Yup, a travel show with a difference. This one's made for sex tourists and features the hottest brothel zones in the world. I checked it out from curiosity with no great expectations. I thought it was going to be a lame, sad, censored peep at Amsterdam or Hamburg. But boy, was I wrong!

The show actually rocked. Last nite's destination was Pattaya, Thailand. The host was this "Rad Dude" Gen X guy who MC-ed the show with a sort of "Whoah dude, this is a great place to get stoned and laid!" attitude. Dude himself remained virginal though and the real hosting was done by "Mike" a little Scottish guy who made the term "absolutely debauched" seem a total understatement. Mike got laid a number of times during the half-hour, once in a threesome and was also perpetually high as a kite. His explanations and commentary were pretty unintelligible, but he always had a big smile on his face.

The show featured a short history of Pattaya and a little tour of its endless strip bars, tattoo parlors and brothels. Also lots of shots of girls.

Oagre gives it 4 thumbs up for informative and intends to catch the next episode. Show produced in Canada BTW.
 
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It started in September. There was a thread on it a few weeks back. https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=357947

They`ve been re-running the first few episodes recently. The Amsterdam, Montreal, Hamburg, Bangkok, and Pattaya ones have been on twice. They went to a SC and a swingers club in Montreal. I think Berlin is next. There might be new episodes on Tokyo, Manila, and Los Angeles that haven`t been aired yet.
 
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interesting...

There seems to be a movement a foot for creating/ dealing with red light zones:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/01/12/italy.prostitutes/

http://www.ce-review.org/99/22/csardas22.html

etcetera...
 
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Re: Oagre gives it 4 thumbs up...

From the OLN Website...
Red Light Districts
Premieres Saturday, Sept. 6 at 11:30 p.m. ET (airs regularly Saturdays at 11:30 p.m. ET)
Red Light Districts, hosted by Garnet Harding, explores the underside of cities around the world through the eyes of real life travelers. Each 30-minute episode features a different location and new group of tourists attempting to discover what lies beneath the surface of the city - including intriguing people, places and sub-cultures.
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The shows are repeated on Sunday nights at 10:30pm.

Personally, the places mentioned so far seem pretty standard "sex tourist" fare (although how Montreal fits in is somewhat beyond me -- maybe I've missed something but it really isn't quite the likes of...). To be fair, I haven't seen any of the shows though and I'd like to thank the TERB community for the heads-up.

On a personal note, I would say that in Germany, I'd recommend Frankfurt (am Main) over Berlin and Hamburg... having been to all three. Mind you, all of them rate a magnitude higher than anything in North America... Hence my continued confusion about the inclusion of Montreal.
 
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Frankfurt

yychobbyist said:
I've never been to Frankfurt's district - what sets it apart from Hamburg?
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What immediately sets Frankfurt apart in my mind is the lack of a definitive identification as a red light district. Granted, it's pretty obvious from the shops and characters but this is an area for the participating tourist -- not the gawkers. Hamburg and Amsterdam are laid out more for sight-seers, in my opinion. Like the Frankfurt itself, this is a place to do business.

what I found attracted me to the Frankfurt district was the hotels. The entrances are pretty non-descript and only after going into the hallways does one actually get the sense of what it is about. Each room is the workplace for a particular girl. Some of the girls are extremely mechanical, others are extremely GFE. Just about every age, shape and color can be found, some cater to fetishes. You just wander through the dimly lit halls until you find what you want. If you don't click with a girl who catches your eye, just move on -- there's likely another one who is just right somewhere in the maze. The prices are extremely reasonable, the situation is essentially safe and the scale is amazing. I would estimate that there are several hundred worthwhile girls available at any given time.
 
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I find the red light districts in Frankfurt or Hamburg not appealing. It is more of window shopping experience.

You should check out the various modern spas in and around Frankfurt. I highly recommend Oase http://www.fkk-oase.de . After paying an admission price you have about 30-40 girls running around in a relaxed spa like atmosphere. You can talk to them in the lounge or in one of the other rooms. If you like one you can take her to a nice clean room for 50 Euros 1/2hr. This includes FS, BBBJ, DFK, DATY. There are beautiful girls working there from around the globe. Since the girls walk around topless or nude you know exactly what you are getting. Free non-alcoholic drinks and you can stay there all night, no time limit. This is especially cool if you like these girls coming on to you naked, trying to get you horny to book a session.

The only warning: You will be walking around with just a towel draped around you amongst other horny men. No big deal.
 
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Re the TV show:

Are the episodes re Europe and Montreal worth catching? The intriguing thing about the Pattaya show was the blatant lack of LE and the availability of ANYTHING the guys' wanted. And I guess, the huge size of the Red Light district. It puts anything I've ever heard about Amserdam to shame.

I think I'd be more interested in Asian and other 3rd World episodes: Manila, Rio, Costa Rica, etc.
 
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I saw the Japan episode last night at 10:30 pm

It was lacklustre at best!

Some interesting tid bits.

The show is gaining some controversy:

Tom Blackwell
National Post

Saturday, November 22, 2003

Taxpayers have helped fund a TV series on the Outdoor Life Network that enthusiastically promotes sex tourism to the bars and brothels of Thailand, a country beset by a huge adult and child prostitution problem.

Episodes of Red Light Districts that aired this week, one as early as 9:30 p.m., offered a virtual how-to guide to using the services of prostitutes in Bangkok and Pattaya.

Pattaya is the Thai beach resort infamous for its booming sex trade.

Offering no criticism of the phenomenon, the show included shots of young prostitutes in school-girl uniforms, points on negotiating sexual services for cash and one explicit scene of an encounter between a Scottish man and two Thai women.

"If you're looking to fulfill a wild, Southeast Asian fantasy, this is definitely the spot," gushed D. Garnet Harding, the host.

The credits, featuring the federal government's Canadian-flag logo, indicated the program received help from the Canadian Film or Video Production Tax Credit.

Roz Prober of the Canadian organization Beyond Borders, which fights child prostitution and pornography, said she was appalled.

"Presenting young women and young men ... as sexual objects, as people you should come and be sexually involved at it because they're good at it, they're cheap and they're Asian, is positively, not only offensive, but un-Canadian," Ms. Prober said. "To think that the Canadian taxpayer might have been paying for this trash is reprehensible, and stunning."

Although it is not clear whether any of the prostitutes depicted are under legal age, children are an integral part of the whole industry, which has been estimated to employ anywhere from 200,000 to two million prostitutes in Thailand, she said. Many adult prostitutes were forced into the business as children, she added.

The country's sex trade, which is illegal, is closely controlled by organized crime, Ms. Prover said, preying particularly on the impoverished girls and women of northern Thailand.

Ms. Prober said Beyond Borders wants Outdoor Life Network, which is partly owned by Bell Globemedia, proprietors of CTV and the Globe and Mail, to withdraw the program and apologize.

She noted the Criminal Code makes it an offence to counsel anyone to commit a crime, if that person goes on to commit the crime. Under Canada's own sex tourism legislation, prostitution offences committed overseas can be prosecuted in Canada.

Tom Curzon, a spokesman for the 24-hour channel, defended the program as a documentary look at the issue, and said the network abides strictly by the code of ethics of the Canadian Association of Broadcasters.

"Anything that was so-called 'promoting' [prostitution] would not be aired. I'm saying, in fact, that it's reflecting reality," he said. "That's the reality of what's going on over there. What that show is demonstrating is that it does, indeed, exist. I don't think that's promoting it, by any stretch.

A spokesman for the branch of the Canadian Heritage Department that administers the film and video tax credit said privacy rules bar him from confirming whether Red Light Districts received the tax credit.

Robert Soucy of the Canadian Audio-Visual Certification Office said productions become eligible if they meet Canadian-content rules. Some types of program are excluded, including pornography, and officials view the material before a credit is allowed, but decisions must be based strictly on criteria set out in the legislation, he said.
 
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Outdoor Life Network promotional material announced the show for its fall season, one of several series that "provide viewers with adventurous activities that stimulate the human spirit." The show explores the underside of cities around the world, depicting "intriguing people, places and subcultures," the channel's statement said.

In one episode, the host describes Bangkok's red light districts as "just a huge melting pot of unbridled passion and good times." He is shown tucking money into the bikini top of a transvestite prostitute.

Bangkok's brothels thrive on tourists and sexual adventurers, so when travellers are not talking to a "bar chick," they can find lots of "kindred spirits" for conversation, Mr. Harding says. Many of the shots depict foreign, white men lined up at bars, young Thai women doting over them.

The episode on Pattaya follows Mike, a Scottish man, on what the host approvingly calls a "sun-drenched, beer-soaked, bar-girl boogie."

"Every bar here is filled with bar girls who for a few baht [the Thai currency] ... will provide warm, willing companionship through the hot, steamy night of this sexual oasis," the host says.

Mike tells the Canadian crew the prostitutes are "very, very good" at what they do.

One scene features a bar where women dance virtually naked. Customers pick the numbered prostitute they like, then work out a price for a few hours or a whole night, Mr. Harding explains. "Negotiate, be friendly and have a good time," he advises.

Another scene depicts Mike at a brothel where he hires two prostitutes. With speeded-up tape and electronic distortion obscuring the nudity somewhat, the program depicts the three having sex. It is a chance for the tourist to get away from his "steady girl" -- a prostitute named Diamond he hired earlier -- and find some variety, Mr. Harding says.

"Some people say that paradise is a two-hour drive south of Bangkok International Airport and, after a long night here, this [foreigner] would have to agree," he concludes.

"If what you're after is fun, sun and an overload of hedonistic pleasure, you've got to get yourself to Pattaya, Thailand."
 
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Hey Meister, I've been to Oase and it definitely is a fun place but there are lots of similar "FKK clubs" around Germany, some much better than Oase and I've had the pleasure of sampling a number of them. Some of the best ones are close to Dusseldorf. These German clubs are a lot more fun and a better experience than the better know red light districts of Germany and Amsterdam.
 
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Uh-oh. There were episodes scheduled to air on Manila tonight and Los Angeles next Saturday, but now the show has been removed from the OLN schedule for at least the next two weeks. A reaction to that National Post story?
 
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Damn! The Manila show would have been interesting!

It'll probably only be aired on cable now!
 
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