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"Recession means tough times for sex workers"

lenny2

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is it any better 4 years later?

http://www.thestar.com/life/2009/06/07/recession_means_tough_times_for_sex_workers.html


But it's no surprise prostitutes and their customers end up haggling, says Sadorsky. Unlike alcohol and cigarettes, which are regulated and sold in stores, the price of sex is flexible and negotiated for each transaction by the buyer and the seller. People willing to work for less affect the going price, he says.


The recession has seen the street price of oral sex, the most common service, plummet from $60 last fall to $20 today. "Full service" involving intercourse has dropped from $150 to $80.


And it's not just street prostitutes who are being hit. Escort workers, both those with agencies and independents, report a 15 per cent decline in clients, says Valerie Scott, executive director of Sex Professionals of Canada, a volunteer group working toward the decriminalization of sex work.


As well, she says, the clients they do have are scrimping.


"If they had previously paid for an hour, they are now going for half an hour. Or they are having only three sessions a month, not four."


Toronto's sex trade workers began feeling the pinch of the economic meltdown last fall.


"That's been the vibe on the street since October," says Scott. "How we are doing is a reliable indicator of how the economy is doing."


Wendy Babcock, 29, a harm-reduction worker with Street Health, says the weekly prostitute drop-in she runs has been dominated by concerns about dropping prices.


She has noticed escorts dropping their prices dramatically in their advertisements on the back pages of local free newspapers.


An hour and a half in the prostitute's home with the client's choice of services "used to be $250, and now they are asking for $60 or $80," she says.
 

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is it any better 4 years later?

http://www.thestar.com/life/2009/06/07/recession_means_tough_times_for_sex_workers.html


But it's no surprise prostitutes and their customers end up haggling, says Sadorsky. Unlike alcohol and cigarettes, which are regulated and sold in stores, the price of sex is flexible and negotiated for each transaction by the buyer and the seller. People willing to work for less affect the going price, he says.


The recession has seen the street price of oral sex, the most common service, plummet from $60 last fall to $20 today. "Full service" involving intercourse has dropped from $150 to $80.


And it's not just street prostitutes who are being hit. Escort workers, both those with agencies and independents, report a 15 per cent decline in clients, says Valerie Scott, executive director of Sex Professionals of Canada, a volunteer group working toward the decriminalization of sex work.


As well, she says, the clients they do have are scrimping.


"If they had previously paid for an hour, they are now going for half an hour. Or they are having only three sessions a month, not four."


Toronto's sex trade workers began feeling the pinch of the economic meltdown last fall.


"That's been the vibe on the street since October," says Scott. "How we are doing is a reliable indicator of how the economy is doing."


Wendy Babcock, 29, a harm-reduction worker with Street Health, says the weekly prostitute drop-in she runs has been dominated by concerns about dropping prices.


She has noticed escorts dropping their prices dramatically in their advertisements on the back pages of local free newspapers.


An hour and a half in the prostitute's home with the client's choice of services "used to be $250, and now they are asking for $60 or $80," she says.

This smells like the street scene which is not covered by this board.
 

Questor

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This smells like the street scene which is not covered by this board.
If you read the article, you will see that it is entirely about the street scene. I think its fair to say we have not seen prices drop by 75 or 80% as the last line quoted in your post claims.
 

TeasePlease

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There will always be a demand for sex....


...and there will always be a willing supply.
 

IRIS

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I already work for half money than before. I still asking 250$ for an hour GFE as I asked in 2007. The gas was 70 cents a liter then.
The food the advertising and everything was half price than today.The hairstylist, the cosmetics, everything was cheaper. I can live with it so I'm not complaining but don't ask me deals. ;)
 

nottyboi

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I already work for half money than before. I still asking 250$ an hour GFE as I asked in 2007. The gas was 70 cents a liter then.
The food the advertising and everything was half price than today.The hairstylist, the cosmetics, everything was cheaper. I can live with it so I'm not complaining but don't ask me deals. ;)

I wonder what the forces at work are, I am making less $$ then 2007 now as well, but I wonder if escorting is less stigmatized then it used to be due to a generation of people raised with access to hardcore porn.
 

thumper18474

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I wonder what the forces at work are, I am making less $$ then 2007 now as well, but I wonder if escorting is less stigmatized then it used to be due to a generation of people raised with access to hardcore porn.
Supply and demand....there will always be hobbyists.....and there will always be SP's...the forces at work are the need to earn...
Are the # of ladies in the business up or down compared to 5 years ago , I'd say up..
There is more choices out there which causes the SP to either stand out from the others which in most cases means 2 things...more open menu...or lower rate..The good ones stand firm in price and menu and will always have their following....
Being a young hottie by no means guarantees you longevity....or consistently high income...Quality and attitude does...
 

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As well, she says, the clients they do have are scrimping.

"If they had previously paid for an hour, they are now going for half an hour.
An SP told me this same thing this weekend. Business is slower and there are less HR and more HH than before.....
While I was finishing up my HH :)
 

Chodu Mal

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I already work for half money than before. I still asking 250$ for an hour GFE as I asked in 2007. The gas was 70 cents a liter then.
The food the advertising and everything was half price than today.The hairstylist, the cosmetics, everything was cheaper. I can live with it so I'm not complaining but don't ask me deals. ;)
In 2007 gas price was app. $1.15 C / Liter. Last time i paid 70 cents was way back in 2003

Since 2008 Total CPI in Canada has been in the range of ~ 2%

I'll like to see you. Are you offering any weekend specials? :baby:
 

rhuarc29

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In 2007 gas price was app. $1.15 C / Liter. Last time i paid 70 cents was way back in 2003
I remember paying 68c /L sometime early 2009.

I know that this might be a slap in the face of those who experienced hardship during the recession, but I owe most of my current success and growing wealth to it. I'm not sure where I'd be today if the economy hadn't fallen off a cliff.
 

james t kirk

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It would be impossible to track these kind of statistics on an industry wide basis.

I would suspect that demand is pretty much constant actually. Recession or not.

What would change is the supply of young women entering the industry. When you lose your job (as a young woman), suddenly escorting may become a choice that cannot be entirely discounted.
 

TROOPS

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Do i feel sorry for any slow down business for sp's? Hell no. If its the recession, i'm looking out for my best interest.
If you guys are feeling the crunch of the economy, don't bother, negotiatiing with overpriced sp's $200 plus an hr. Just go find a cheaper one.
The difference between a $200hr orgasm and a $80hr orgasm is $120. Same shit. a cum is a cum. Now use that money you saved and buy yourself some nice clothes so you can go out on the weekend to meet plenty of single women in the bars.
 

Jennifer_

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It's hard to measure whether business has gone down or up.

I was very busy when I worked in the spas I worked at and very very busy when I first went independent.

I have aged - and I irritated a lot of people by not returning every call and/or text I received. My phone literally used to go off every five minutes.

I have aged (though I think I look exactly the same lol) and I have probably frustrated some people by not replying....

So I don't think it's possible for any one girl to accurately say there has been an increase or decrease in business due to the economy. There are too many self-inflicted factors that can influence how busy we are.

I will say, however, that the worst time economically for me was when the recession first hit (right before I went independent).

fall and early winter of 2009. (I think that co-incided with the actual start of the recession)
 

Rockslinger

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My phone literally used to go off every five minutes.
The shelf life of a sex trade worker, like a hockey player, is a short one. One day too soon the bright lights, the adoring fans, the music, the big bucks, etc. stop. Young men no longer call. Older gents call younger competitors.
 

IM469

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It's hard to measure whether business has gone down or up....
I have aged - and I irritated a lot of people by not returning every call and/or text I received.
My dear, you are still hot - I melt every time I see your signature photo.

The Star is a reputable newspaper so I must assume the prices have crashed. I wasn't thinking of lowering the price for high class services but in view of the economic climate - maybe GFE should include vacuuming & laundry ?? :eyebrows:
 

MrMessi

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There's a market and price range for everyone.

I don't see it as a big deal, you can get a handjob for $60 or go to a high end spa and pay $160, the end result is the same.
 

lenny2

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If you read the article, you will see that it is entirely about the street scene.
That is entirely incorrect. For example:


"And it`s not just street prostitutes who are being hit. Escort workers, both those with agencies and independents, report a 15 per cent decline in clients, says Valerie Scott, executive director of Sex Professionals of Canada, a volunteer group working toward the decriminalization of sex work." http://www.thestar.com/life/2009/06/07/recession_means_tough_times_for_sex_workers.html

I think its fair to say we have not seen prices drop by 75 or 80% as the last line quoted in your post claims.
Compare these comments from the following thread:


Vancouver industry prices seem to be falling perhaps due to increased competition. Several SPs are offering $60 to $80 for 30 mins or 20 mins which is a really good deal.

This is good news for some who have often complained that prices routinely start at $140+ and now we are on the same level at par with Toronto and few other US cities where $60 to $80 is the norm.

This has been long overdue and it is only going to get better.

I noticed this too from browsing while bored...its in all locations too, and ladies of all ages with not that many restrictions. I wonder why? Anyone have any theories...?
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...s-falling-60-to-80-new-trend!-Pooners-rejoice!!
 

Chodu Mal

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I remember paying 68c /L sometime early 2009.

I know that this might be a slap in the face of those who experienced hardship during the recession, but I owe most of my current success and growing wealth to it. I'm not sure where I'd be today if the economy hadn't fallen off a cliff.
There is no way that 69C was the average price in 2009.
 

d_jedi

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$20 for a BJ on the street?
I.. really wonder what kind of girl that gets you.
 
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