Recession means tough times for sex workers

saliksalik

Active member
Sep 16, 2004
2,505
13
38
Toronto
I am not sure if it was posted here. I post it on the risk of repitition. An interesting article:
----------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/o2hj3r

Recession means tough times for sex workers TheStar.com - living - Recession means tough times for sex workers
PETER POWER/TORONTO STAR FILE PHOTO
Church St., above, used to be one of the few main "tracks" for prostitution, but the trade has spread through the city, a support service worker says.
Falling prices for services 'causing a lot of misery' and raising fears prostitutes will take more risks
June 07, 2009
Trish Crawford
LIVING REPORTER

Drag queen "Ray" was enraged when a late-night customer on Toronto's downtown track offered him $5 for oral sex recently.

"I didn't spend two hours getting my makeup on and all dressed up for that," says the 36-year-old former hairdresser from Venezuela, who usually charges $60 for the service.

These days, Ray is getting little more than callouses from standing all night near Jarvis and Wellesley, as the economic slump delivers an unexpected hit to the sex trade.

The vices – smoking, drinking, sex – are usually bulletproof during a recession, says economist Perry Sadorsky, who teaches at York University's Schulich School of Business. So if the sex trade is hurting, "we are in the most serious depression since the 1930s. This shows the magnitude of the decline. It is deep and it is problematic."

Sex workers say their incomes began plummeting last fall, with johns pleading poverty and haggling over prices, and prostitutes bidding against each other.

"There are 60 people on the street, but they are all sex workers and there's no money for anybody," says Ray, who, like other prostitutes, did not want his real name used. "This economy is causing a lot of misery."

Sadorsky wonders if the economic crisis is forcing more people into sex work, thereby increasing competition on the street. Toronto police, who use a community complaints system to keep track of prostitution, report no increase in complaints, though they suggest this may mean sex workers are trolling in non-residential areas.

But it's no surprise prostitutes and their customers end up haggling, says Sadorsky. Unlike alcohol and cigarettes, which are regulated and sold in stores, the price of sex is flexible and negotiated for each transaction by the buyer and the seller. People willing to work for less affect the going price, he says.

The recession has seen the street price of oral sex, the most common service, plummet from $60 last fall to $20 today. "Full service" involving intercourse has dropped from $150 to $80.

And it's not just street prostitutes who are being hit. Escort workers, both those with agencies and independents, report a 15 per cent decline in clients, says Valerie Scott, executive director of Sex Professionals of Canada, a volunteer group working toward the decriminalization of sex work.

As well, she says, the clients they do have are scrimping.

"If they had previously paid for an hour, they are now going for half an hour. Or they are having only three sessions a month, not four."

Toronto's sex trade workers began feeling the pinch of the economic meltdown last fall.

"That's been the vibe on the street since October," says Scott. "How we are doing is a reliable indicator of how the economy is doing."

Wendy Babcock, 29, a harm-reduction worker with Street Health, says the weekly prostitute drop-in she runs has been dominated by concerns about dropping prices.

She has noticed escorts dropping their prices dramatically in their advertisements on the back pages of local free newspapers.

An hour and a half in the prostitute's home with the client's choice of services "used to be $250, and now they are asking for $60 or $80," she says.

"It's not a lucrative career."

She's concerned that sex workers will put themselves in dangerous situations and "have to take more risks" to make ends meet.

Indeed, Carol, 32, says she is getting more requests for dangerous or unusual acts – such as men wanting to be choked, which she will only play-act – prompted by clients' exposure to Internet porn.

Aleesha, a transgendered prostitute who has worked the streets for four years, says she used to earn $400 a night. But now, if she gets $150, "I know that's it."

Staff Sgt. Mike Ervick, head of vice for 52 Division on Dundas St. W. near the Art Gallery of Ontario, says street prostitutes are getting competition from sex workers who've moved indoors to hotels and are using the Internet "in real time" to drum up customers.

"They say, 'The girls are here right now, come quick,' " says Ervick.

Staff Sgt. Ed Roseto of 14 Division, which includes Parkdale, says the undercover officers involved in two sweeps there this winter did find clients "lowballing" prices, even though, after being arrested, they were found to have enough money on them for full price.

The Parkdale area has always had cheap prostitutes, he says, with females getting $20 for oral sex and male prostitutes getting $40. Men command higher prices, he says, and get double the amount, about $80, for intercourse.

Drugs such as crack play a role in the lives of many prostitutes in the area, he says. "Crack is the biggest pimp in 14 Division."

Inez Garwood, executive director of Streetlight Support Services, which is dedicated to helping prostitutes leave the sex trade, says numerous new "tracks" have blossomed around the city, which means more johns.

The downtown areas of Jarvis and Wellesley, along with Kingston Rd. and Parkdale, were once the main areas of street prostitution in Toronto, but Garwood reports that the men arrested in police sweeps are now found all over the city, including Browns Line, Danforth Ave., Weston Rd., Eglinton Ave. W. and Steeles Ave.

"As long as some guy is standing on a street corner waving $20, we can't stop the prostitution," she says.

Streetlight, which offers two court-mandated diversion programs, one for prostitutes and another for johns, runs a drop-in centre and a food bank.

Ann, who works on the Danforth, has found herself using the food bank this year, after 10 years of working the streets, because her regulars have been hiring her less and less due to the recession.

"Five years ago, I was making $500 to $600 a night," she says.

"It was good money. But everybody's feeling the recession. Regulars I used to see once or twice a week, I don't see them as often. One regular I haven't seen in six months. He's laid off."

As for the lowball offer, she says: "I don't do anything for $20. I wish they printed $40 bills because all I see these days are twenties."

But the high-school dropout says that as difficult and dangerous as it is to survive as a street prostitute, she isn't looking for work elsewhere.

"I still make more than if I was working at McDonald's."
 

fernie

Banned
Feb 19, 2003
1,141
0
0
Posted already. Yawn.

Fernie
 

tribunus

Terror Belli Decus Pacis
May 26, 2008
2,994
1,697
113
Not sure how things are for SPs and SCs, but the MPs look to be doing quite well. I dropped by a well known parlour in Brampton earlier in the evening and every girl was booked. And there was a steady stream of dudes coming in and out.
 

21pro

Crotch Sniffer
Oct 22, 2003
7,830
1
0
Caledon East
I agree tribunus... my favourite dancer still clears over $2500/wk so that's still good, but I do notice that the vip's at SCs are more empty... I imagine the 'marginal' girls aren't making much at all.
 

Nefari

New member
May 22, 2009
175
0
0
I think the recession is affecting the unknown SPs, but the my Favs are constantly being booked up! :(

I've also noticed that we have more request for information than actual reviews these days, which suggests that less of us are willing to TOFTT. Instead, we are all shifting our money to the favored SPs on this board (which explains why all my personal favs are unavailable almost every time I call).
 

SkyRider

Banned
Mar 31, 2009
17,572
2
0
saliksalik said:
The Parkdale area has always had cheap prostitutes, he says, with females getting $20 for oral sex and male prostitutes getting $40.
Did I read the above quote correctly? Does this mean that a male would prefer to get a BJ from another male instead of a female?
 

S.C. Joe

Client # 13
Nov 2, 2007
7,145
1
0
Detroit, USA
Hey I was inform by a gay dude once that he could suck harder than any gal....but I didn't find out, lol.
 

SkyRider

Banned
Mar 31, 2009
17,572
2
0
Ivan said:
i'm surprised as well. but homosexuals are in higher income class i suppose
Thanks for the clarification. So they were referring to gay and not straight males.
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,697
21
38
Nefari said:
I think the recession is affecting the unknown SPs, but the my Favs are constantly being booked up! :(

I've also noticed that we have more request for information than actual reviews these days, which suggests that less of us are willing to TOFTT. Instead, we are all shifting our money to the favored SPs on this board (which explains why all my personal favs are unavailable almost every time I call).
Who are some of your personal favs? I've had no problems with bookings.
 

Rockslinger

Banned
Apr 24, 2005
32,776
0
0
21pro said:
my favourite dancer still clears over $2500/wk so that's still good,
I know this SC dancer who has been in the biz for over 10 years and has built a roster of reliable regulars and she is still making the same high income. It seems that all her regulars are 100 years old and they are collecting rich indexed pensions as retired public sector workers so they spend their money on her:cool: .
 

Bear669

New member
Apr 9, 2006
2,302
3
0
Wilds of the GTA
Booking further ahead!

Smallcock said:
Who are some of your personal favs? I've had no problems with bookings.
I always book in advance, but my favs are doing extremely well, and I cannot assume I can get my usual (4-12 hour/duos) by asking a few days ahead.

(Girls in Pink and a few others)
 

Thunderballs

New member
Sep 18, 2002
2,098
14
0
Toronto
SkyRider said:
Thanks for the clarification. So they were referring to gay and not straight males.
Wouldn't a guy getting a BJ from another guy by definition be gay? How can a straight male get a BJ from another guy and be straight?
 

saliksalik

Active member
Sep 16, 2004
2,505
13
38
Toronto
Thunderballs said:
Wouldn't a guy getting a BJ from another guy by definition be gay? How can a straight male get a BJ from another guy and be straight?
May be one should try and find out ;-) That TOFTT is not for me. Cheers
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,697
21
38
Bear669 said:
I always book in advance, but my favs are doing extremely well, and I cannot assume I can get my usual (4-12 hour/duos) by asking a few days ahead.

(Girls in Pink and a few others)
That's surprising, especially considering that the wise business move would be to cater to regular big spenders. Same money for less time/paperwork scheduling/potential problems, and so on.
 

Rockslinger

Banned
Apr 24, 2005
32,776
0
0
Thunderballs said:
Wouldn't a guy getting a BJ from another guy by definition be gay? How can a straight male get a BJ from another guy and be straight?
Interesting question. A TERBIE said on another thread that his GF blindfolded him and another lady gave him a BJ. If he is blindfolded, how can he be sure it was a lady and not a man:eek: . Of course, one can always reach down and feel her/his privates to be sure.
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,697
21
38
Rockslinger said:
Interesting question. A TERBIE said on another thread that his GF blindfolded him and another lady gave him a BJ. If he is blindfolded, how can he be sure it was a lady and not a man:eek: . Of course, one can always reach down and feel her/his privates to be sure.
I've seen video of a gloryhole situation just like that. Guy has his cock in a glory hole and a girl is giving him head. A few seconds later, she is replaced by a guy with a mustache. At some point the man's mustache grazes the guy's cock and you see the cock instantly retract back out of the gloryhole.

Blindfold/gloryhole = dangerous sex play
 

Rockslinger

Banned
Apr 24, 2005
32,776
0
0
Smallcock said:
Guy has his cock in a glory hole and a girl is giving him head. A few seconds later, she is replaced by a guy with a mustache.
I am fond of telling this story as a cautionary tale. Friend and I were in Montreal when we were both young and foolish. This "girl" walks up to us and offers BJ for $40. My friend took the offer and they did the deed in an alley. They return and the "girl" offers me the same deal. I said I needed to feel her privates first. "She" declined.
 

Bear669

New member
Apr 9, 2006
2,302
3
0
Wilds of the GTA
Oops, you misconstrued!

Smallcock said:
That's surprising, especially considering that the wise business move would be to cater to regular big spenders. Same money for less time/paperwork scheduling/potential problems, and so on.

These are the sharpest gals in the business and I am utterly spoiled. But, I am not going to ask them to cancel other bookings for me.

As a matter of fact since I am very flexible, I always encourage them to move ME around if they have another opportunity that they might miss.

And, I am not their only Lap dog/bear. They attract and keep many devoted fans.

The result is great fun GFE, amazing YMMV.
 

brazilianpussy

New member
Jan 19, 2004
94
0
0
Fucking stupid article -- The star is always trying to make prostitution look sleazy and pathetic - they never talk about the 22 year olds making more than CEOs banging execs from Bay street
 
Toronto Escorts