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Cobra1

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they are finally recognizing some of the drivers that led the US into Iraq - while its wrong to blame Israel on the decision given there were many vested and personal contributing factors, the influence of Wolfowtiz, Perle, Feith and others in steering this initiative is finally being recognized. Saddam might still have been in power if he hadnt provided financing to Palestinian resistance. Maybe the pendulum back to sanity has started.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
 
How credible can this site be when you log onto it and leave you get bikini babe and tiger poster pop-ups ....lol .
 
What rubbish!

Yeah, the war in Iraq is the "Jews" fault. :rolleyes: What? Bush and his administration have no mind of their own? Many "Jews" were against this war!!! Sounds to me like xenophobia and anti-Semitism is starting to rise it's ugly head, again. Does anyone ever learn from history? If someone is pulling GWB's strings it is not the "Jews". There is a strong pro-Israeli right-wing lobby in Washington, but that hardly equates with their being behind the invasion of Iraq. Wolfowtiz, Perle, and Feith = all "Jews"? And Wolfowtiz, Perle, and Feith "control" whether the US goes to war or not?

Was that Sen. Ernest Hollings Zundel?
 
Only thing missing from the article was a final solution to this Jewish problem...
 
You don't want to spend much time following Earnest Hollings! If a Republican had said something like this there would be a riot in the US media.

OTB
 
OTB,

That was a Republican ("Dixiecrat") who did speak his mind. Please don't ask me to expand on that thought. You might not be able to handle the truth about the Republican party and the South turning red. The greatest accomplishment of the modern Republican party is welcoming the "Dixecrats" into their ranks, creating a bastion where racism is comfortably tolerated.

Hollings is right on point in his pronouncements. If you were the moderate you proclaim, you'd acknowledge that. The basis of our preemptive strike doctrine is PNAC, a doctrine first presented to Bebe Netanayhu (sp) in 1996 as a template for the LIKUD defense policy for Israel. Can you explain why this document forms the basis of a strategy for the US or are you just like the empty suit commander in thief, who feigns ignorance to appeal to the good old boys?



EBS
 
E_B_Samaritano said:
OTB,

... are you just like the empty suit commander in thief, who feigns ignorance to appeal to the good old boys?

EBS
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Better watch out ESB, OTB will label you an ANTI-American American! As only he and his ilk personify what it means to be a "true" American.
 
E_B_Samaritano said:
OTB,
Hollings is right on point in his pronouncements. If you were the moderate you proclaim, you'd acknowledge that. The basis of our preemptive strike doctrine is PNAC, a doctrine first presented to Bebe Netanayhu (sp) in 1996 as a template for the LIKUD defense policy for Israel. Can you explain why this document forms the basis of a strategy for the US or are you just like the empty suit commander in thief, who feigns ignorance to appeal to the good old boys?

EBS
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So if a right-wing government in Canada had developed a similar doctrine, promoted by a few Canadians in Washington and then a right-wing US administration came to power and developed a similar doctrine of their own ... Canada would be the cause of the war in Iraq? It is always someone else who is responsible for our actions. ;) And I thought that the US was a democracy.
 
Re: What rubbish!

tompeepin said:
There is a strong pro-Israeli right-wing lobby in Washington, but that hardly equates with their being behind the invasion of Iraq. Wolfowtiz, Perle, and Feith = all "Jews"? And Wolfowtiz, Perle, and Feith "control" whether the US goes to war or not?
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Wake up - the Defence Policy Board pretty much set the agenda even before Sept 11 with the Project for a New American Century. Bush likens himself to a CEO, he decided course of action among those ideas presented to him. Cheney and Rumsfledt are neo-cons who happen to be pretty close to a segment of Americans who also happen to be Jewish, and have strong allegiances to benfit Isreal - Perle, Wolfowtiz and Feith are just the obvious - others such as Bolton, and Abrahms are non just ideologues, but have vested interests in Israel. Why dont you people read? Start with key US officials bios -

IT is wrong to say "all Jews" - that is not true at all - even in Isreal the spectrum of opinion is impressive. But to ignore the undue influence of those with allegiance to Isreal other than the US in primary - is a concern.
 
RE: "Senator spoke for many on Hill when he blamed Israel for war."

Cobra1 said:
IT is wrong to say "all Jews" - that is not true at all - even in Isreal the spectrum of opinion is impressive. But to ignore the undue influence of those with allegiance to Isreal other than the US in primary - is a concern.
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Sure make their ideology your concern; be the proponents of that ideology Jewish or not.

The majority of the Jewish people want withdrawal from the occupied territories. Does Democracy prevail? No! The settler minority's will and that of the Israeli right-wing does.

The same is true in the US. The neo-cons are getting their way. I think that it would be better to refer to Perle, Wolfowtiz and Feith et al as neo-cons and not "Jews".

Noam Chomsky and Uri Avnery are Jews; are they behind the invasion of Iraq?

Focus on ideology and those who implement it and not the race of a few (even if they are the intellectual leaders) who advancing the ideology.

America is responsible for the invasion of Iraq. America is a self-professed "democracy". If you do not like it, vote out the neo-cons, and don't go blame it all on "the Jews".

What would you say if I said: "The CHRISTIANS are responsible for the CRUSADE in Iraq!"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/

Ultimately Your commander in chief made the decision, and hey he was "democratically" elected. If you want to blame anyone and hold anyone accountable ... he is your man. Where does the buck stop?
 
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