Rant!

[fnog9]

I disagree strongly with the first half of dudeboy's post where he basically says that escorts should have to fuck everybody, regardless of their feelings on the matter, or get out of the business. In my experience escorts do more or less fuck everyone, and if for some reason they don't want to fuck you, there is probably something horribly wrong with you.

Uh, yeah. That's what it comes down to ultimately. I don't think there's an sp out there who isn't WELL aware of what her job is. All the ones I have been with have been very willing to do their job. So to be mad about an escort not doing something for you.... come on. If she won't have sex with you, probably no one else is going to.

Maybe that guy did have a bad service experience, but that's no reason to call the women idiots etc etc etc. No wonder he got refused bc his attitude probably showed and it's a big turn off and seems one small step away from violence. As others have said, he seems to place the women in a sub human category, people can sense it. So how bad would he feel if he were to abuse a sub human?

 

[Hard Idle]

We don’t need someone of this mentality in this industry that is full of wonderful and respectful clients, get out.

Thank-you

I agree, but what I don't understand is why re-post that junk? Why give that idiot and his garbage any more play and exposure on the board instead of letting it fade away with the original thread?

Originally Posted by out4fun
I don't think you'll find many that share Dudeboy's opinion...at least I hope not.

I'm not sure if I agree. When you've been here a little longer and read more posts, you might feel differently too.

The board is increasingly full of hostile people with all sorts of fucked up morality, judgemental and rejection issues, and maybe some older members are becoming bolder in expressing theirs.

Over the past 12 months I've felt compelled to take significant time away from TERB just to purge my mind of all of the ignorant and mysogenistic that seek an echo here.

I've also come to believe that there is a great excess in the supply and availability of cheap service which has fostered a militant sense of entitlement and power among many Johns.

They are less and less discrete in presenting the ladies as a lower caste who's acceptance of payment disqualifies them form any other humane considerations.

It is depressing to think they can find sympathetic voices here.

 

[Hard Idle]

Yes, they should be selective but they should be selective before the gentleman books and lays down his money. BTW One of our favourite escorts on this Board said that if a lady is overly selective, she may wish to consider another line of work. Not every client looks like George Clooney.

Not every instance of declined service or limited mileage is only due to physical appearence. Sometimes it could be overagressive behaviour, insulting or abusive language, heavyhandedness... unless customer booked at the PSE rate and got the OK on these things beforehand, the SP has every right to pull the plug on the session.

 

[SecretRendezvous]

As far as agencies go – yes, this is a business and there is a profit. But to say that an agencies intention is to solely make profit with no concern for their girls ......

Thank-you

As a agency owner I have on a few occasion had to call the client while he is waiting outside the door of the location to tell him, she is not interested in seeing him. I don't ask my ladies why. I just do as they ask. They employ me, not the other way around. My profit is made when I work hard to bring in business, but the ladies always have a say in what, who and where they work.

Ladies body - lady's choice. ALWAYS.

 

[The Options Menu]

I'm not sure if I agree. When you've been here a little longer and read more posts, you might feel differently too.

The board is increasingly full of hostile people with all sorts of fucked up morality, judgemental and rejection issues, and maybe some older members are becoming bolder in expressing theirs.

Over the past 12 months I've felt compelled to take significant time away from TERB just to purge my mind of all of the ignorant and mysogenistic that seek an echo here.

I've also come to believe that there is a great excess in the supply and availability of cheap service which has fostered a militant sense of entitlement and power among many Johns.

They are less and less discrete in presenting the ladies as a lower caste who's acceptance of payment disqualifies them form any other humane considerations.

It is depressing to think they can find sympathetic voices here.

I don't think that's it's a fundamental change in the board but part of the moderator and user ebb and flow, and that the cult of the disgruntled and banned is going through one of its better organized phases. (I suspect a slight uptick in male frustration during 'uncertain times' may come into play, but that would be very much at the bottom of the list.)

There is one fundamental truth about sexwork, and that is that while many clients are simply otherwise decent men who like no strings sex, or even otherwise nice guys who have no luck with women, there will always be that other group of men who are severely socially maladjusted, who have severe 'woman issues', or who would otherwise not get much consensual sex FOR GOOD REASON.

The Internet is a giant anonymous soapbox. In many cases the severely socially maladjusted, those who have severe 'woman issues', or those who would otherwise not get much consensual sex for good reason, do indeed know it's better not to express their feeling to their peers, or maybe they have nobody to share their 'insight' with. So they come here...

If you combine that with a bit of an ebb in moderating and you get what you get...

 

[moresex4me]

Terb has its share of trolls, no question. They do reveal themselves. And there are more than a few guys out there who share this guy's feelings on SP's. Assholes. 'Nuff said.

 

[GDLLover]

I never thought about it until this thread, but some things became very clear.

I now know why I have more luck with good connections with indy's over agency ladies.

To setup an appointment with an indy there is either a few emails back and forth and/or a few calls. This gives the lady a chance to size up the demenor of the guy.

With agency ladies, the appointment is through the booking agent (owner). The first time this lady gets to see if their comfortable with you is looking through a peep hole for 30 secs. I always wondered why it took so long to open the door.

Now with this revelation, I have a better understanding as to how hard it is on the ladies to figure out who they can trust and not, their personal safety is of prime importance.

 

[elassowipo1]

The majority of ladies in this business are quite tolerant and willing to please. A guy would have to be profoundly ugly or an utter slob or a violent psycho to be turned down by an SP, lol.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[fnog9]

I've also come to believe that there is a great excess in the supply and availability of cheap service which has fostered a militant sense of entitlement and power among many Johns.

Really? In what area? The prices seem to have remained constant as long as I've been interested. About 8 years.

 

[Wizard Merlin]

Well said Katie pie'

I'm also peeved with the OP's headine "Kacie sucks". From those two words alone you can tell the guy has issues with tact and respect. I'm not surprised his session derailed as it did.

It's almost as if he knew going in that his chances were slim yet he complained like he was utterly shocked.

One can write a negative review with class and respect. These girls who are by and large wonderful and sweet don't deserve to meet up with these classless buffoons.

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

The majority of ladies in this business are quite tolerant and willing to please. A guy would have to be profoundly ugly or an utter slob or a violent psycho to be turned down by an SP, lol.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Nope, you are not wrong hon......although I am not sure about the 'profoundly ugly' comment,,,,,I have had a couple of clients who were very unfortunate in the looks department but were very nice guys and very polite, I had no problem giving them my best attention......Ugliness is not a choice, being a slob or a psycho on the other hand is and is sufficient reason to be turned away before stepping through the door.

 

[LadyTY2Uall]

I never thought about it until this thread, but some things became very clear.

I now know why I have more luck with good connections with indy's over agency ladies.

To setup an appointment with an indy there is either a few emails back and forth and/or a few calls. This gives the lady a chance to size up the demenor of the guy.

With agency ladies, the appointment is through the booking agent (owner). The first time this lady gets to see if their comfortable with you is looking through a peep hole for 30 secs. I always wondered why it took so long to open the door.

Now with this revelation, I have a better understanding as to how hard it is on the ladies to figure out who they can trust and not, their personal safety is of prime importance.

At the end of the day we (sp's) only have our instinct to judge whether a client is a 'nice guy' or a complete nutbar. I am betting most of us would sooner err on the side of caution even at the risk of turning away a nice guy than ignore our instinct and end up hurt, robbed or worse......We are vulnerable in this business, we only have ourselves to take care of us......well, that and the huge bat I keep under my pillow

 

[NewBen]

'xcuse me LadyTY2Uall

At the end of the day we (sp's) only have our instinct to judge whether a client is a 'nice guy' or a complete nutbar. I am betting most of us would sooner err on the side of caution even at the risk of turning away a nice guy than ignore our instinct and end up hurt, robbed or worse......We are vulnerable in this business, we only have ourselves to take care of us......well, that and the huge bat I keep under my pillow

What? That was a bat under your pillow? I thought you told me it was your vibrator!

 

[Rockslinger]

To setup an appointment with an indy there is either a few emails back and forth and/or a few calls. This gives the lady a chance to size up the demenor of the guy.

I have been screaming this on TERB for the past 10 years. Nobody listens. That is why I prefer SC dancers. I get to see them in the flesh and they me. We chitty chat and get to know each other a bit. No "door opening" surprise.

The "sight unseen" agency route is also tough on the guys who have to commit to a $300 appointment without ever having seen or spoken to the lady. It is a $300 blind date.

 

[Rockslinger]

As a agency owner I have on a few occasion had to call the client while he is waiting outside the door of the location to tell him, she is not interested in seeing him.

Could have been all avoided if the agency had let the client speak to the lady before the appointment is booked. Telling the client at the door is a complete waste of everybody's time.

 

[Brill]

What was that sound?

 

[Jacques_Offe]

Most men book a girl.........

because they are
-lonely
-looking for variety
-have a significant other who is ill or infirm
-want to be held and talked to for an hour
-like to see if all girls are alike (thery are not)
-need compansionship on an intimate level for whatever reason
-have a fantasy they want to explore.

Those who refer to gals in the sex work biz as whores, idiots, sluts etc are themselvelves assholes.....first class assholes at that !!!!

Gals in the sex work business who are only in it for the money are missing a lot. Cheating a client, poor hygiene, poor manners,yelling, taking texts, shorting time etc makes a client angry and only escalates things.

Treat one another well...........nice things happen

Call me naive....but 90% of my experiences have been positive. The rest I forget about and move on. Better odds than the casino....!!!

Just my 2 cents but what do I know.....?
Only have 13+ yrs doing this.....

ENJOY.........tomorrow never gets here. Every time I wake up it is today!

 

[K Douglas]

Jerk's like this are unfortunately a part of the industry. Girls should always have the right to refuse a client that they are not comfortable with. Bottom line.

I support your rant 100%

 

[Alex_Ontario]

Katie, this guy sounds like an immature loser. I have been around for a while and these kinds of messages roll off my back. He definitely does have issues and misconceptions yet he sounds frustrated with women in general. This is not about you. You will find women haters in this business or those who are messed up because they hated their mother. Not sure how long you've been in the business but nothing seems to surprise me anymore. As you go along and gain experience these types of posts will go in one ear and out the other. I have learned to tune out negativity. However, if you want to see the real rants of a mentally ill loon who targets sexworkers, read this.. It is from a forwarded email I received from another SP a couple of years ago:

You and all women in general, are evil, We are black pain 666, and because of your lack of love for us and your lack of appreciation for us as men and lack of friendship. black represents how you and women in general have turned our hearts black are pain represents the pain that is in our souls, 666 represents you and all women in general that are all evil.
You give false love, and false appreciation well, stealing our money are hard earned money and when we have left you, you mock us and laugh behind are backs. You women, and all women in the sex trade industry, Web cam women porno queens, prostitutes, strippers, and all women in general use and manipulate men to line your pockets with our Money and have fun spending our money When there are so many people that need the money more than you sluts do.

But why should you care your all heartless, shameful, and disgusting......... but what we wish for the most is for all of you and all women in general and particularly you is you all catch every kind of sexual disease known to man. And furthermore, you stink as human beings are lousy rotten, mean stinking people, no you're not even people you're ingrates morons, ruthless and cunning and should be locked away for life.

We are black pain 666 all we ever asked for was for your true love and or your true friendship But you have all failed us and your all common shit.so go and suck another cock and line your pockets with the money you steal from men, and lonely man in which you pray off of. Because many of the people in your communities hate your guts, and many people in this country are hoping and rooting for your demise. Including many of the people you think are protecting you including law enforcement. They could care the least about you, because they know the type of element you're involved with drug dealers and gunrunners and individuals who sell drugs to little kids. And you are using the money you've ripped off from men to support your own drug habits or alcohol habits and your lavish lifestyles, which you do not deserve.

So go and catch AIDS and waste away and be gone with you like the common trash that you are. And furthermore, please send this to the police so they can identify who you are and know that they're dealing with another piece of common crap, which is you and other women in the sex trade industry and women in general, who rip off men. Then the police can keep track of your illegal activities, and hopefully put you behind bars where you belong for the rest of your life and take away your lavish lifestyles, and the ugliness that comes from what you call a heart and soul, which no longer exists for you all that exists for you is your lust and greed for money. Hopefully your looks will fade and your bodies as well, and no one soon will ever want to have anything to do with you, ever again We can only hope for this you nasty ingrates and common trash that you truly are a disgrace to your family and community and this country.

You use men and walk away rich, will a man like me has to work so hard for my money,and you get what ever you want and people wounder why there is so much hate towards females like you.i am 45 and all alone in life with copd and am going to die alone and i have never hit or touched a woman in my life but yet becuse i am not a rich man and i am not that good looking i remain alone in my life.i look back in my life and i wish that i would have raped and murdered as many of you mean women As I possibly could have But then I think to myself There wouldn't have been enough time in life to get rid of all of you.

No woman has ever loved me and I hope and pray with all my heart and soul that everything and anything bad that can possibly happen to you will. Why, because I've never been loved and women today could care less just like you You're all the same. You sold your heart and soul and your body for the almighty dollar, and for materialism, but somehow I manage to restrain myself from showing you women the power I possess in which I could destroy each and every one of you if I wanted to.

Why, all because I've never been loved, and all you women are just materialistic, pigs now go do another porno or suck another black cock. Do what you do best, and deny a real man in life, love That's why I hate you all including you, but don't be surprised. It's because you're a heartless woman, just like all women are heartless and cold and mean and vicious and vindictive and spiteful and materialistic and use your looks to make easy money, well A good man like me, ends up all alone I hate you all. Ted Bundy is my hero.

 

[WhaWhaWha]

Just scary to think that guy and others like him are walking among us. I remember a story from years ago. A girl I know was at a bus stop. A big man grabbed her arm and said, "you're coming with me." At the same moment a male friend of hers just happened to be passing in his car, saw the whole thing, and pulled over to help her. The thug responded, "Sorry man, I didn't know she was your friend." The male friend responded, "did you know she was a human being?".

The sheer mentality of someone who believes he has the right to abduct a stranger, provided she isn't 'taken'. How does someone with that kind of psychosis walk among us undetected the rest of the time?