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I don’t understand what the big deal is. We have a long history of naming ailments after where they were discovered. We still do it even when it come at to this particular one. The fact is - virus came for China, hence China virus. They use terms like “UK variant”, “ Brazil variant”, “Italy variant” or “South Africa variant” because there are various variants that were discovered in those countries, hence the according variants. Variants are not racist but the initial virus is. I don’t see what exactly is the difference is. There are other diseases and viruses that are named after where they were discovered, like “Spanish influenza”, “German measles”, “Japanese Encephalitis”, “West Nile virus” (discovered in Uganda on the western bank of the Nile), Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever aka Ebola (named after the Ebola river in the Congo) or most interestingly “MERS” or “Middle East Respiratory Syndrome” (also a spices of the coronavirus)
Why exactly is this different?
How exactly is this racist but the other isn’t?
Why is this even a thing?

I don’t mean to be a smart ass, I really don’t get it. I just really don’t see the difference. I am actually asking for clarification. How exactly is this different?
 
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Hmmm... Dengue fever comes from the Dengue region, Ebola virus comes from the Ebola river, Lyme disease was named after the town of Lyme....

......but calling a virus from China the China virus is now racist.
 
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I don’t understand what the big deal is. We have a long history of naming ailments after where they were discovered. We still do it even when it come at to this particular one. The fact is - virus came for China, hence China virus. They use terms like “UK variant”, “ Brazil variant”, “Italy variant” or “South Africa variant” because there are various variants that were discovered in those countries, hence the according variants. Variants are not racist but the initial virus is. I don’t see what exactly is the difference is. There are other diseases and viruses that are named after where they were discovered, like “Spanish influenza”, “German measles”, “Japanese Encephalitis”, “West Nile virus” (discovered in Uganda on the western bank of the Nile), Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever aka Ebola (named after the Ebola river in the Congo) or most interestingly “MERS” or “Middle East Respiratory Syndrome” (also a spices of the coronavirus)
Why is this different?
How exactly is this racist?
Being able to call someone ‘racist’ gives under-achieving individuals such as Charlemange a way to make themselves feel powerful and important. That is why it is ‘racist’
 
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Hmmm... Dengue fever comes from the Dengue region, Ebola virus comes from the Ebola river, Lyme disease was named after the town of Lyme....

......but calling a virus from China the China virus is now racist.
Yes because Dengue, Ebola, and Lyme are specific locations, not an entire country. I would get the Wuhan virus but the science community has moved away from that system of naming new viruses.



But we all know there's overlap between the anti-mask crowd and the white-power crowd.
 

TheDreamer

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Yes because Dengue, Ebola, and Lyme are specific locations, not an entire country. I would get the Wuhan virus but the science community has moved away from that system of naming new viruses.



But we all know there's overlap between the anti-mask crowd and the white-power crowd.
Yes. But what about... UK variant”, “ Brazil variant”, “Italy variant” or “South Africa variant” or “Spanish influenza”, “German measles”, “Japanese Encephalitis”...

Again.. totally don’t mean to be a smart ass, I just really don’t get it...
 
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Its not racist at all, but it ia a great promotion
 

y2kmark

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Being able to call someone ‘racist’ gives under-achieving individuals such as Charlemange a way to make themselves feel powerful and important. That is why it is ‘racist’
Went back to post #1 and didn't see where Charlie called anybody anything, he just posted a news item. Reminds me of Tucker Carlson ragging on Joe Biden's marriage - accusation means admission there and here. So if it makes you feel powerful and important, knock yourself out...
 

y2kmark

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Its not racist at all, but it ia a great promotion
The Chinese student Mingyuan Wang was the one who thought it racist. Maybe not on the face of it, but the term "China Virus" was racialized and weaponized by one Donald J. Trump. Talk about someone with a need to be powerful and important....
 
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Maybe they should the change the name of the country to Kitchener. Worked before
 
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y2kmark

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Maybe they should the change the name of the country to Kitchener. Worked before
I do know that Kitchener was renamed during WWI because the original name was Berlin (true story), but I still don't get your post...
 

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Yes because Dengue, Ebola, and Lyme are specific locations, not an entire country. I would get the Wuhan virus but the science community has moved away from that system of naming new viruses.



But we all know there's overlap between the anti-mask crowd and the white-power crowd.
I too would go with the Wuhan virus.
 

Bagilson

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Yes. But what about... UK variant”, “ Brazil variant”, “Italy variant” or “South Africa variant” or “Spanish influenza”, “German measles”, “Japanese Encephalitis”...

Again.. totally don’t mean to be a smart ass, I just really don’t get it...
Because it’s ok to hate white people.
 

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Went back to post #1 and didn't see where Charlie called anybody anything, he just posted a news item. Reminds me of Tucker Carlson ragging on Joe Biden's marriage - accusation means admission there and here. So if it makes you feel powerful and important, knock yourself out...
I suggest you take a look at Charlemange’s posting history and see what pattern reveals itself.
 

TheDreamer

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Because it’s ok to hate white people.
But this isn’t anything to do with hate of whites or anyone else. This isn’t a hate thing. It’s just identifying where a particular aliment came from... in this case China. COVID-19 came from China. That a fact. Nothing to do with racism.
 

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But this isn’t anything to do with hate of whites or anyone else. This isn’t a hate thing. It’s just identifying where a particular aliment came from... in this case China. COVID-19 came from China. That a fact. Nothing to do with racism.
Basically I agree with you. I was just explaining why people get upset about ‘China Virus’ but are OK with the ‘UK Variant”. In the broader context I am just pointing out that there are a number of people, like Charlemange, who just hate white people.
 

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But this isn’t anything to do with hate of whites or anyone else. This isn’t a hate thing. It’s just identifying where a particular aliment came from... in this case China. COVID-19 came from China. That a fact. Nothing to do with racism.
It is if you will only use a term that also is associated with a 'race' of people.
If you're intentionally using a term that way that means you are using it as a racist attack.
Use Wuhan if you must, because then its just a location and not a location plus a people.
 

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But we all know there's overlap between the anti-mask crowd and the white-power crowd.
Oh, that's the Trumptard B.S.1.1.45 variant.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are useless against.
 

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Basically I agree with you. I was just explaining why people get upset about ‘China Virus’ but are OK with the ‘UK Variant”. In the broader context I am just pointing out that there are a number of people, like Charlemange, who just hate white people.
Run a few of Trump's speeches where he rants about the CHY-NA virus and all the other bad things about China. Failing to discern the racism and hatred makes you pretty tone deaf. Hell, VERY tone deaf.

"Spanish Influenza" was also used against "foreigners" a hundred years ago, BTW.

If you really want to hate on someone who might deserve it, start calling it "the disease spread by air travel" - more clearly descriptive...
 
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