racism and racial discrimination: where to draw the line?

[gibarian]

Got bored. It's a hypothetical. Stretched my mind a bit.

No doubt he will come up with an even more myopic and outlandish scenario.

I wonder who turned him down?

Fall's posts reveal an obsession with loathsome ideas centred around coercion and the denial of women's agency. He consistently fixates on topics/arguments that involve things like:

- how a SW or civilian woman is in the wrong or hypocritical for selecting their partners
- how consent seems flexible and unclear to him
- how certain things understood as sexual assaults are not technically/legally sexual assaults according to him

He shows up like clockwork to any discussion that gives him an opportunity to promote those ideas, and uses poorly-constructed thought experiments and amateurish legalese to try to litigate women into doing things they don't want to do, or accepting to have things done to them. He's creepy and scary, and has been called out for it on the board and on twitter.

 

[fall]

No. Wrong again.

She can go to the county in question, apply for and get the necessary permits, buy property, set up in business, follow the health guidelines, and choose her clientele.

She could even restrict her advertising to white supremacy sites and forums to ensure she only gets like minded clientele.

You are equating the policies of a private business with preventing her doing it. Which isn't the Carvin your little hypothetical.

So, now you are basically saying that it is OK to have a privately-owned legal business that provides services to the general public (not a restricted membership club) that has a "no black customers are allowed" policy. I, personally, OK with this. But if it is allowed for one type of business (legal brothels), why it is not allowed to any other businesses (restaurants, hotels, etc.)

 

[fall]

Fall's posts reveal an obsession with loathsome ideas centred around coercion and the denial of women's agency. He consistently fixates on topics/arguments that involve things like:

- how a SW or civilian woman is in the wrong or hypocritical for selecting their partners
- how consent seems flexible and unclear to him
- how certain things understood as sexual assaults are not technically/legally sexual assaults according to him

He shows up like clockwork to any discussion that gives him an opportunity to promote those ideas, and uses poorly-constructed thought experiments and amateurish legalese to try to litigate women into doing things they don't want to do, or accepting to have things done to them. He's creepy and scary, and has been called out for it on the board and on twitter.

You are wrong. I just want to expose the contradictions in people's arguments just for the sake of argument. My personal beliefs: SP can deny service to anyone they want to and racism is wrong. Racial discrimination is a grey area since it is perfectly rational, but, at the same time, hurts people just because they were born black simply because the difference in average income and wealth of a person (i) positively depends on the income of wealth of his parents and (ii) a few centuries ago most black people in America were in slavery. The main idea that I want to argue is that current laws and "general consensus of what is good" contradict each other as in example with legal brothels in Nevada. Note that police use racial profiling not because they hate blacks, it is just because blacks are, on general, poorer, and poor people are, on general, commit more crimes. Since a person does not have his bank account statement and diploma on his forehead, police cannot see it, but the colour of the skin is visible. If all people will have chips with their information implanted in them, I am sure the racial discrimination will go away (at least the larger portion of it that is due to conditional expectations and not to racism itself)

 

[rouge]

Start with the now popular discriminatory line most SW in Ontario especially now use;
**No blacks allowed**
The most common excuse is a “black guy” robbed me. How may SWs have been beat up, robbed, video taped secretly and even drugged by a white guy.
I’ve never seen a ***no white men allowed***

Unless you’re telling me this has never happened.