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racism and racial discrimination: where to draw the line?

fall

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Let me start this controversial topic with two provocative questions and an assumption that it is OK for an SP to be racist and/or discriminate against black clients while it is not OK to have, for example, "no blacks allowed" grocery store

First:
Consider a legal brothel in Nevada and a racist SP who does not want to have black clients. Will she be allowed to refuse black clients? I think, she should be. But in this case we have a business (brothel) that restricts a portion of its services for black customers. Is it OK to have a legal business open to the public that discriminates based on the race? Just a follow up: my guess, such girl will not be hired at the first place, and, since the only legal prostitution in Nevada it through brothels, her only possible employment will be in a brothel that is "for white customers only" So, we end up in situation when there is a legal business that does not serve black customers. So, is racial discrimination allowed in sex business?

Second:
I am sure, the majority will answer "yes" to the first question, so, what is more important than sexual safety? I'd say, safety itself, i.e., being able to live. Now, it is common information, that disproportional fraction of black population is involved in violent crimes. It may nothing to do with race (and I personally believe so), but it is more likely because more black people live in poverty and more people who live in poverty are likely to be involved in crimes. Now, assume you are an Uber driver and, based on this statistics, correctly estimates that if the only thing you know about your passenger is his skin colour, there is a conditionally higher probability that your passenger is involved in violent crimes if he is black than if he is white. Since you care for your safety, you would prefer to have white passenger. Question is: is it OK for an Uber drivers discriminate base on race and refuse black passengers?

Main question: where is that line when racial discrimination is no longer allowed?
 

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Not exactly. I am genuinely interested if people believe that racial discrimination is allowed only in sex industry (and if so, all the industry or only to independent SPs?) or it is allowed in other industries as well be it for safety reasons or "because it is good for the business" in some aspect?
Agency girls have preference too. Including race. It is not limited to independent escorts.
 
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As noted on my post in the other thread, I do not believe an SP choice is racism, thus you cannot say there is racial discrimination in the sex industry. Except possibly in extreme cases where an SP would be making racist comments - but that is not the industry, it is one person.
 

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As noted on my post in the other thread, I do not believe an SP choice is racism, thus you cannot say there is racial discrimination in the sex industry. Except possibly in extreme cases where an SP would be making racist comments - but that is not the industry, it is one person.
What if this was told to the BLM group?
"but that is not the industry, it is one person."
 

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Their body their choice. Simple as this. The client can choose to go somewhere else.
 

Butler1000

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Here is your answer. .

Agency owners and brothel owners are smart enough to ask this question during the job interview.

"Do you have any problems having sex with men of different races?".

Why? Because they don't want the pain in the ass of cancellations due to this. Both incall and outcall.

So the point is moot. Any agency girl is already fine with it. And if they lied to get the job a pattern will quickly emerge and they will be fired.

Racist girls, or girls with hangups, or girls who had bad experiences go Indy. So they can control their choices.

It's a stupid tack to a stupid question.
 

fall

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Here is your answer. .

Agency owners and brothel owners are smart enough to ask this question during the job interview.

"Do you have any problems having sex with men of different races?".

Why? Because they don't want the pain in the ass of cancellations due to this. Both incall and outcall.

So the point is moot. Any agency girl is already fine with it. And if they lied to get the job a pattern will quickly emerge and they will be fired.

Racist girls, or girls with hangups, or girls who had bad experiences go Indy. So they can control their choices.

It's a stupid tack to a stupid question.
The only legal prostitution in Nevada is in brothels. Indis are illegal. So, it is OK to have "blacks are not allowed" legal brothels?
 

fall

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people like to keep beating a dead horse :deadhorse:
OK, let's agree that sexual discrimination is OK in sex industry. The question is: where outside the sex industry racial discrimination is OK? How about Uber drivers?
 

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The only legal prostitution in Nevada is in brothels. Indis are illegal. So, it is OK to have "blacks are not allowed" legal brothels?
They don't. Don't be stupid.

Try reading my post again. Owners screen for this. I went to the website. Nowhere to they say any race is discriminated against.

So your hypothetical question is stupid. It isn't happening. It's impossible to screen for this. And I've never seen a review where someone in the city said an agency refused service based on race.

Stop being an incel.
 

fall

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They don't. Don't be stupid.

Try reading my post again. Owners screen for this. I went to the website. Nowhere to they say any race is discriminated against.

So your hypothetical question is stupid. It isn't happening. It's impossible to screen for this. And I've never seen a review where someone in the city said an agency refused service based on race.

Stop being an incel.
So, basically, an SP that does not want to see black clients is not able to find a legal SP job in Nevada. That is, she is either forced to work illegally, or forced to see black clients even she does not want to.
 

Butler1000

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So, basically, an SP that does not want to see black clients is not able to find a legal SP job in Nevada. That is, she is either forced to work illegally, or forced to see black clients even she does not want to.
No one is forcing anyone to see anyone. It implies she doesn't have a choice in profession. Every profession has ruled and negatives.

The women who choose this go in knowing they will have to have sex with men they find physically or mentally unattractive. And I have no doubt it's also explained to them by agency owners.

They can choose to not do this. Your premise is flawed.
 

fall

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No one is forcing anyone to see anyone. It implies she doesn't have a choice in profession. Every profession has ruled and negatives.

The women who choose this go in knowing they will have to have sex with men they find physically or mentally unattractive. And I have no doubt it's also explained to them by agency owners.

They can choose to not do this. Your premise is flawed.
So, basically, we found a profession (SP) in which it is OK to be racist (everybody agrees with "her body her choice") but yet she cannot do her job legally because she is a racist. You see the hypocrisy: everybody OK that she has the right to refuse to see the person of a specific race, but because she actually want to do so, she is not able to find legal work. So, she gets punished for something that everybody agrees she should not get punished for.
 

Butler1000

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So, basically, we found a profession (SP) in which it is OK to be racist (everybody agrees with "her body her choice") but yet she cannot do her job legally because she is a racist. You see the hypocrisy: everybody OK that she has the right to refuse to see the person of a specific race, but because she actually want to do so, she is not able to find legal work. So, she gets punished for something that everybody agrees she should not get punished for.
No. Wrong again.

She can go to the county in question, apply for and get the necessary permits, buy property, set up in business, follow the health guidelines, and choose her clientele.

She could even restrict her advertising to white supremacy sites and forums to ensure she only gets like minded clientele.

You are equating the policies of a private business with preventing her doing it. Which isn't the Carvin your little hypothetical.
 

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I don’t see a point to this.

There are SP that won’t see anyone under 30 there are ones that now because of Covid won’t see anyone over 60 or 65.
There are ones that won’t see anyone of colour or a particular race.

We choose based on our preference whether that is on age, body type, race or price.
WTF difference does it make there are plenty available choose the one that accepts you and appeals to you the most and move on.
Why worry about the ones that won’t see you, most civilians their age would reject you anyways, that is why you are seeking an SP.
These threads are really a waste of time, nobody will change your mind who you want to choose and neither should you insist on who an SP is comfortable in being with.
 

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The laws governing prostitution in the state of Nevada and Canada are very different. Prostitution is legal in the state of Nevada, so that a prostitute working in a legal brothel would be expected to serve all customers and if they did not wish to serve all customers they could work in an illegal brothel or as indie and see who they want. Prostitution is illegal with the twist that the prostitute is immune from criminal prosecution as per Bill C36 and the purchaser of the sexual service whether black, white or any other shade is committing a crime. For a criminal to complain about been discriminated against while committing a crime is an oxymoron or non starter and no court would help the criminal. Obviously the sex trade in Canada has its own set of rules and is somewhat self policing with all customers being able to find someone who will take care of their requests.
 
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