Quick Question

[Asiangurl1]

I usually go by that theory too tboy. I love Mortons Steakhouse, but i know it's kind of expensive, so i usually cut a guy a break if he takes me there. Since the bill is usually around some ladies 2 hour rate, lol.....

This is my dilemma. It's like i want to put my overnight rate down, but can you imagine if i put my rate to say $1350 but then the guy just wanted me on my back the whole night? OMG i'd freak. How do you distinguish between the guys that genuinly just want an unrushed evening of dinner, drinks maybe dancing or a strip club. Obviously same crazy sex and room services, between the guys that wanna order in a pizza and never let you out of the bed because those guys should be charged my regular $2000 rate. lol.....

xoxoArielxoxo

Ariel, takes this advice as you wish, but I am speaking as a former SP myself.

Whatever you do don't, don't, don't as tempting as it may be hit up the <$1000 market. The sub $1000 market for overnights are the type of client that want to have you on your back all night. And now, from looking at you-what guy wouldn't? LOL...you are a very attractive lady...but back to my point. I tried catering to this market at one time in my career by offering $500 overnights. I did it not because I was desperate, but rather because I thought that a nice night of dinner and dancing should not cost a fortune. Most people don't make what we do as SPs. It did not bring in what I thought it would, and most importantly I got a lot of disrespect and flack for it. As well as a ton of people trying to negotiate me down and others saying I am desperate. Which even now makes me laugh because anyone who knows me knows that I am far from desperate! I have worked hard my whole life, have a university degree, and had a ton of job offers when I graduated at 21! I chose to continue to work as an SP after my graduation and avoid the real world. When I finally decided it was time to take my head out of the sand I quit working as an SP and landed myself 4 job offers within a few weeks. Anyhow, that's not the point this is...Just don't do it!

I think $1500 + is what you should be aiming for. But this is just what I think. If I were to go back to working I would not make the same mistakes I did last time. I was more of a PSE type and only charging $200 an hour for my services. If I were to ever come back, which is highly doubtful but as my mom says "never say never", I would charge more in the line of $250 -300 an hour and $1500 for an overnight. When I was working as an SP, I enjoyed the flexibility and the money. Two things which don't necessarily come so easy in outside work. Trust me, I work 60 hrs a week for menial "entry level" pay. And being a young person (22) with a bachelors, I do have to start somewhere. And while I don't get paid nearly as much as I did when I was an SP, I enjoy my new position much more because I get treated with respect. As Alanis Morrissette sings in her song One hand in My pocket, "I am poor but I am happy".

Anyways Ariel, you are truly a beautiful lady. And I hope you find that in your retirement you find a job that fills your soul and makes you happy.

 

[Garden of Eden Ladies]

I usually go by that theory too tboy. I love Mortons Steakhouse, but i know it's kind of expensive, so i usually cut a guy a break if he takes me there. Since the bill is usually around some ladies 2 hour rate, lol.....

This is my dilemma. It's like i want to put my overnight rate down, but can you imagine if i put my rate to say $1350 but then the guy just wanted me on my back the whole night? OMG i'd freak. How do you distinguish between the guys that genuinly just want an unrushed evening of dinner, drinks maybe dancing or a strip club. Obviously same crazy sex and room services, between the guys that wanna order in a pizza and never let you out of the bed because those guys should be charged my regular $2000 rate. lol.....

xoxoArielxoxo

Now I know you were asking for a males opinion but seeing as I have a few multi hour packages I thought you might like some of my input.

First of all and this is no offense to the poster but I wouldn't listen to any of Asiangurl1's comments. I think that what she had to say might be right for her but is based on her own experience and not yours. Lots of ladies offer overnight specials and I really doubt that you personally would experience the same kind of treatment as she described.

While I honestly don't book alot of these multi-hour date appointments. Those appointments that I have booked, I gotten great feedback from the clients and the ladies love it. Its a win-win for everyone. Nobody is gonna think your cheap or desperate. I think most of your loyal clients would appreciate the fact that you would like to take your time and enjoy the client's company before you leave the biz. It should be a hit with your regulars.

As long as your upfront with what your offering with your special overnight rate it shouldn't be a problem. It might be a good idea to offer a few different options so they have some choice. If you want you can checkout my package dates page to get some ideas. Another suggestion could be that you create a package date where you make all the arrangements with dinner and the entertainment and the client pays one set price at the beginning of the date. You could make it into a special romantic fantasy date where you take care of everything. I wonder how many men would be turned on to the idea of having the lady take the lead and sitting back and just enjoying the fantasy.

Its a shame that it would be too hard for an agency to offer something like this. It might sound like a crazy idea, but I am sure it would work great for independent ladies.

Thanks


Nicole

 

[tboy]

Thanks for the great response Nicole, I was just about to post that while that was asiagirl's experience, to lump all guys who don't make $8K a week together is just wrong. For eg: I'd jump at a $500.00 overnighter not because I'm cheap, but because I work really hard for my money and to "blow" a week's work for an evening of pleasure is just difficult to get my head around. (ever worked in a sauna? that's what it was like for me last week!).

Anyhow, as for jumping her all night, shit...that's bogus at least for some of us. Sorry, I just couldn't physically do it so there's no threat there lol.

 

[Ariel Sanchez]

Thanks so much to everyone who replied so far. I really appreciate everyone's input. I think what i'll do is have 2 seperate overnight rates. One that's lower to tend to the gentlemen who know they can't go all night anyway even if they wanted to and would prefer just the company with a lady to take out and show off or what not (we'd still obviously have some fun) And one for the guys that know their sexual appetite is higher and maybe don't or can't be seen out and about and would prefer to stay in for the evening. So package A) between $1300-1500$?????
B) between $2000-2400$????

What do ya think?

P.s. Thanks Asiangurl and Nicole---->Nicole, not sure if you ever noticed but a couple months ago i applied to your agency via e-mail. never got a
response :-( hehe

xoxoArielxoxo

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Thanks for the great response Nicole, I was just about to post that while that was asiagirl's experience, to lump all guys who don't make $8K a week together is just wrong. For eg: I'd jump at a $500.00 overnighter not because I'm cheap, but because I work really hard for my money and to "blow" a week's work for an evening of pleasure is just difficult to get my head around. (ever worked in a sauna? that's what it was like for me last week!).

Anyhow, as for jumping her all night, shit...that's bogus at least for some of us. Sorry, I just couldn't physically do it so there's no threat there lol.

Actually, you don't realize it, but you proved asiangurl's point.

 

[tboy]

Actually, you don't realize it, but you proved asiangurl's point.

I think you have that backwards, asiagirl said that sub 1000.00 clients want her on her back all night and I said I couldn't even DREAM of doing that....at least that was what I was referring to.

The way I see it, I could see spending $500 on an overnighter and have $500.00 for going out and about. Which we all know in this city isn't unreasonable for even a mediocre evening....

But $1500.00 PLUS $500.00....sorry, but that's like a nice vacation for a week in Puerto Vallarta.....and depending on when you go, maybe even Cancun!

 

[Garden of Eden Ladies]

P.s. Thanks Asiangurl and Nicole---->Nicole, not sure if you ever noticed but a couple months ago i applied to your agency via e-mail. never got a
response :-( hehe

xoxoArielxoxo

There must be something wrong with your email account because I remember you emailing about a year ago and I sent you an email back right away. I never got a response so I figuired you changed your mind. I even contacted you after that with offers to work on tour. We did talk about it but you decided that the tours might not be for you. I am really sorry if you did email me and I never responded. Please next time you email and don't get a response then please call. I usually answer the phone and its alot easier to talk then respond by email.

I am a really nice person and its a shame things didn't work out because I think you would have really enjoyed working here. If your still interested in possible working at GOE please feel free to give me a call.

Thanks


Nicole

 

[justvisiting1]

I'm Sure She Would Have To Be Really Heavely Sedated To Work For An Agency...

 

[Papi Chulo]

I had an overnight session about a while back with an agency girl (she sees me outside the agency & charges about 40% less than the agency rate)... I guess it was a GFE.. she snored.

I had not asked for overnight.. I paid her for an hour in advance, did the deed, we fell to sleep after & she woke up 8 hours later, not knowing where she was.. then I walked her home. Hopefully next time, she cooks breakfast

 

[Asiangurl1]

Thanks for the great response Nicole, I was just about to post that while that was asiagirl's experience, to lump all guys who don't make $8K a week together is just wrong. For eg: I'd jump at a $500.00 overnighter not because I'm cheap, but because I work really hard for my money and to "blow" a week's work for an evening of pleasure is just difficult to get my head around. (ever worked in a sauna? that's what it was like for me last week!).

Anyhow, as for jumping her all night, shit...that's bogus at least for some of us. Sorry, I just couldn't physically do it so there's no threat there lol.

That's exactly why I was doing it! My line of thinking was that not everyone makes 5K+ a week. Many people, like myself, work hard for a living for menial pay. Where I work now I am working 60 hrs a week and a ton of my money goes to the tax man. When I was younger I worked in a car parts factory which was physically demanding work. I would work 12 hr days and come home with muscle spasms.

So I know what it is like to work my butt off. And many guys who do just want a relaxing night with a cute girl to have some fun with and enjoy company. Dinner, drinks, a movie, and sometime to unwind as well as the in the bed part. It really should not cost them a fortune.

Heck $500 is more then what I make in a night working for the cell company.

 

[Macator2003]

I'm Sure She Would Have To Be Really Heavely Sedated To Work For An Agency...

Maybe for most agencies justvisiting but I think GOE especially with Nicole's assistance would be one of the better Outcall agencies to work with.

Ariel,

I think it depends on many things:

How long have you known this chap.

Do you enjoy his company, do the two of you click.

Has he or will he be choosing an upscale hotel, sharing a unforgettable dinner with you at a 4 star restaurant.

Overnights are different beasts than 1 or 2 hour sessions. Even though I'd like to see the fun portion happen every couple of hours, reality would probably kick in and I'd probably be looking for 3 intimate encounters.

The first following dinner, then when we crawled into bed at the end of the day and the last time, a little "Morning Desire", before we parted. Now if something was to happen at 2 or 3:00am, I wouldn't expect you to be bringing out your calculator or tell me that I'm about to use up my third and final pass...........

 

[luv4lust]

ok this is just me but most guys can't msog. it will take a couple few hours to recharge so i'd guess about three O's in an evening, maybe taking up an hour each time. one in the morning that we all know wont last long {sorry guys}.
in my mind only a husband should have to pay to have a woman sleep beside him lol {sorry married guys}.
my rate would be much lower than 1500 - 2000 $ keeping in mind he is doing dinner, drinks, breakfast, and tip.
hum that added would cost him 1/2 a months pay

the best times i spent with two special people over night
guy 1 {Ottawa}
$600 for a hell of a great time i was pampered big time
my special guy from {London}
$1300 3 days of pure pleasure plus bonus cash for giving him as many O's as i could in the 3 days

let us not just think of the cash but how much the guy does for us too he does deserve some credit doesn't he ?

sorry i'm a freak i guess flame away

 

[jazzpig]

ok this is just me but most guys can't msog. it will take a couple few hours to recharge so i'd guess about three O's in an evening, maybe taking up an hour each time. one in the morning that we all know wont last long {sorry guys}.
in my mind only a husband should have to pay to have a woman sleep beside him lol {sorry married guys}.
my rate would be much lower than 1500 - 2000 $ keeping in mind he is doing dinner, drinks, breakfast, and tip.
hum that added would cost him 1/2 a months pay

the best times i spent with two special people over night
guy 1 {Ottawa}
$600 for a hell of a great time i was pampered big time
my special guy from {London}
$1300 3 days of pure pleasure plus bonus cash for giving him as many O's as i could in the 3 days

let us not just think of the cash but how much the guy does for us too he does deserve some credit doesn't he ?

sorry i'm a freak i guess flame away

Here, here!

Besides Ariel, you're not even here for another two months. Why go through all this bullshit now, trying to figure if it is a good business strategy or not.
It also seems like you want to grab as much money as you can before you leave but totally on your own terms, and you want everyone to help you figure out a way to do it.
I'm not trying to flame you, but that's really how it is coming across to me.

Besides, I may be wrong but I can't see somebody laying down that kind of cash for a situation where most of the time is spent on activities other than sex, unless there's already a relationship there. I think the potential client has the same concerns you do. They will pay X number of dollars and not know what to expect from you either.

Personally, I think this is a strategy to stay on everyone's radar until you're gone to drum up as much business the way you normally do.

This whole endevour seems a little disingenuous, with all due respect.

 

[luv4lust]

Here, here!

Besides Ariel, you're not even here for another two months. Why go through all this bullshit now, trying to figure if it is a good business strategy or not.
It also seems like you want to grab as much money as you can before you leave but totally on your own terms, and you want everyone to help you figure out a way to do it.
I'm not trying to flame you, but that's really how it is coming across to me.

Besides, I may be wrong but I can't see somebody laying down that kind of cash for a situation where most of the time is spent on activities other than sex, unless there's already a relationship there. I think the potential client has the same concerns you do. They will pay X number of dollars and not know what to expect from you either.

Personally, I think this is a strategy to stay on everyone's radar until you're gone to drum up as much business the way you normally do.

This whole endevour seems a little disingenuous, with all due respect.

ok wait a min i wasn't saying she should charge less that's her choice. i was just pointing out in all fairness that 2/3's of the time your not having sex, unless you have a toy convention going on in the room. and just because i don't charge for the off the cock stuff some do and again that is their choice to.

op's i mean clock thanks prince

 

[Macator2003]

unless you have a toy convention going on in the room. and just because i don't charge for the off the cock stuff some do and again that is their choice to.

op's i mean clock thanks prince

Love your humour L4L..................

 

[luv4lust]

ty it keeps me young & fun