questionable cop to head union

You give the guy too much credit!!

Hes just been elected to head a Union as President...He'll sit on a Board of Directors....


And he gets ONE VOTE.....Its not like hes god......

The huffing and puffing is to make him look like a Union guy......I bet over 90% of the guys could care less about the huffing and puffing...
 
Im saying

Let the guy do his thing....before you Judge him

In truth..the position does not hold much power...Oh yes...it gets a bit of air time when he wants to huff and puff...

But really...he is quite powerless...in a Union where.... what.... 9000 people vote....


He has a fine line to walk...to satisy the 90% who are apethetic to this...or any union for that matter.

The Union is a dying breed....and POLICE UNIONS...WITH NO RIGHT TO STRIKE....have very little ammo.


Work to rule is called upon once in a whiel...but how does that HURT ME??? I ask??
 
fmahovalich said:
Let the guy do his thing....before you Judge him

In truth..the position does not hold much power...Oh yes...it gets a bit of air time when he wants to huff and puff...

But really...he is quite powerless...in a Union where.... what.... 9000 people vote....


He has a fine line to walk...to satisy the 90% who are apethetic to this...or any union for that matter.

The Union is a dying breed....and POLICE UNIONS...WITH NO RIGHT TO STRIKE....have very little ammo.


Work to rule is called upon once in a whiel...but how does that HURT ME??? I ask??
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Are you whacked? Yeah the PM has no power because 30 million Canadians get to vote?? He has a big say in negotiation policy. They cannot strike, but they can have "blue flu" work to rule etc etc etc. Don' kid yourself, there is quite a bit of power in that position.
 
This could be very interesting if police accountability and rules of conduct come up in the negotiation, as he wont have a ton of credibility there having been convicted under the current system. But if they think he's gonna get them the best deal I don't feel much worse about him then I would anybody else.
 
fmahovalich said:
Let the guy do his thing....before you Judge him

In truth..the position does not hold much power...Oh yes...it gets a bit of air time when he wants to huff and puff...

But really...he is quite powerless...in a Union where.... what.... 9000 people vote....


He has a fine line to walk...to satisy the 90% who are apethetic to this...or any union for that matter.

The Union is a dying breed....and POLICE UNIONS...WITH NO RIGHT TO STRIKE....have very little ammo.


Work to rule is called upon once in a whiel...but how does that HURT ME??? I ask??
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Truly ironic, that remark about ammo; I guess you forgot the threat ubder Brommel to march on City Hall armed and in uniform.

And you're contradicting yourself saying he has no power in a union where 9000 vote, and then asserting 90% of them are apathetic.

Seems to me, when you consider being Prez is a well-paid full-time job, and even your 10% who care have to do police work all day, that actually does add up to power. It's certainly been the case in the unions I've belonged to, and judging by the stock accusations about overpowerful, sometimes <gasp!> corrupt union bosses there's a whole lotta TERBots who have a similar general impression.

Whatever his union qualifications it's a sad reflection on the state of our police that the chosen rep of the rank and file should be a guy under a cloud of suspicions and misconduct.
 
the question becomes do you want him on the street or behind a desk???


That is besides the point that I don't think he has actually been convicted of anything
 
"Insubordination?" That's your big criminal charge?

Why not just admit you hate cops and think they're all corrupt?
 
The last guy looked like a real pig. A real oinker. He looked like he fed to much on the public trough.
 
Hangman said:
"Insubordination?" That's your big criminal charge?
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"* Allegations that members of Toronto Central Field Command's drug squad beat up informants, stole money from drug dealers, gave false testimony, falsified documents and faked search warrants.

* Allegations that Toronto 52 Division's plainclothes officers demanded cash from bars in the entertainment district in exchange for protection.

* Allegations of an improper relationship between some officers and luxury car-leasing salesman and convicted criminal Jeffrey Geller, who died in 2004.

Several veteran officers are among the accused, including the former head of the Toronto Police Association, Rick McIntosh, and two sons of former police chief William McCormack, William and Michael. In early 2006, Michael McCormack was cleared of charges related to allegations of an improper relationship with Geller. "

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/torontopolice/index-old.html

The judge dismissed the charges due to procedural delays. The Crown is currently appealing the dismissal for delay.
 
Hangman said:
"Insubordination?" That's your big criminal charge?

Why not just admit you hate cops and think they're all corrupt?
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Can't you read? He made private, personal use of confidential police information about citizens. Insubordination means doing what you are expressly ordered not to do. Is that how you think police officers should behave? How do you run a police force, if that's the standard of profesional behaviour?

Why not admit that you'd suck up whatever bad police conduct because you still aren't over your kiddie-crush on big guys with guns?

Or at least try not to post stuff that makes you look so unthinking and silly.
 
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I just have more faith in the police than you. You clearly think they, and the rest of the judicial system, are all dumber than you. I have some respect, you see. But we sure are lucky to have you here to help us understand things.
 
Serves those coppers right. If they want to be led by this bufoon, then that's their perogative. It's a democracy.
 
Hangman said:
I just have more faith in the police than you. You clearly think they, and the rest of the judicial system, are all dumber than you. I have some respect, you see. But we sure are lucky to have you here to help us understand things.
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You can have faith in the force but having faith in this lad is bad news.
 
Hangman said:
"Insubordination?" That's your big criminal charge?

Why not just admit you hate cops and think they're all corrupt?
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He improperly used police data to research a person that later ended up dead.... the only thing they could make stick was insubordination. He has not come clean which means he has something to hide. It is even possible he killed this guy... :eek: So we have a possible homicidal manic in charge of the police union....BTW hangman, why don't you admit you are either a cop or a cop lover.
 
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Holy fuck you're a drama queen. A murderer? Really? John Duncanson died in his sleep after a lengthy
battle with alcoholism. I doubt the evil policemans did that.

McCormack may be distasteful to you but he hasn't been convicted of any criminal charge, and all that means to you is that they couldn't 'make it stick'. Your inquisition mentality and leaps of logic are astounding. I love your remark that not 'coming clean' means he's 'hiding something'. That is a fallacious argument that erodes our freedoms and privacy.

I'm neither a cop nor a 'cop-lover' but neither do I think that they are all evil and corrupt creatures bent on destroying our civil liberties.

Do you really think that McCormack killed a guy, but that the police would vote to make him head of the union? Cops don't like murderers, you know.
 
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