Question for Don Draper about this aria
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song is amazing
I want to read the lyrics
not the song for a male soprano
Oh my dear father,
I like him, he is very handsome.
I want to go to Porta Rossa
to buy the ring!
Yes, yes, I want to go there!
And if my love were in vain,
I would go to Ponte Vecchio
and throw myself in the Arno!
I am pining and I am tormented,
Oh God! I would want to die!
has been sung many times on the got talent shows
O mio babbino caro,
mi piace, belllo bello,
vo'andare in Porta Rossa
a comperar l'anello!
Si, si, ci voglio andare!
E se l'amassi indarno,
andrei sul Ponte Vecchio
ma per buttarmi in Arno!
Mi struggo e mi tormento,
O Dio! Vorrei morir!
Read more: Jackie Evancho - O Mio Babbino Caro Lyrics | MetroLyrics
She is my all time favourite. Love you Jackie .
Love Jackie too but, do not shoot me but, HERE IS SOMEONE BETTER! She is 9, I THINK Jackie WAS 10. HER NOTES ARE STRONG AND PURE WHERE JACKIE WENT FLAT . She has never had a singing teacher but Jackie had
HAVE THEM SING TOGETHER AND SELL OUT THE SKY DOME
She won Holland got talent , Jackie came in second in AGT
she also sings Nessun Dorma and Ave Maria like Jackie did
DO YOU DO MASSAGE?
love to have one while listening to opera
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Each singer seems to pronounce differently so my follow up question to Don Draper is is different pronunciation an artistic license granted opera singers or is it ignorance on their part as to how to pronounce Italian?
It's amazing they can sing like they do; let's not quibble about their accents. Especially not if we have to read the surtitles to know what they're singing at all. What's the 'preferred' Italian accent anyway? Tuscan? Venetian? Roman? Milanese? Abruzzese? Calabrese? Sicilian? (Not to mention the 'proper' way to pronounce Canadian, American, British or Indian English)
There's no Opera Singer Authority enforcing standards, so 'licensing' is the same as in our favourite biz: If they want you, you're doin' it right.
I thought the composer was the authority so pains would be taken to use his interpretation which, I assume, he defined
If any TERB knows it is Draper
so who is better oldjones, Jackie or Amira?
I say Amira hands down, which I thought could not be done, and self taught FFS! Unbelievable, yet there it is
I really like Amira too since I saw her first performance on Youtube.
But my favorite is Jackie always. I went two of her concert in Toronto, and really nice to see how this little angel growing up front of us.
She is fifteen now and better year to year. She has something in her voice and body language what makes tears in my eyes always. As many people say: It's angelic.
Gianni Schicchi is a comic opera in one act by Giacomo Puccini to an Italian libretto by Giovacchino Forzano, composed in 1917–18. Since you asked, I'd be inclined say the guy who wrote the words would be the logical 'authority' on their pronunciation, not the guy who wrote the music, and I'm certain no one sings such stuff well without taking considerable pains to do all justice they are capable of to both music and words. What pronunciation and accent would you prefer to call 'correct'? Italian has as many regional accents as English. Do we know Puccini, Forzani and Dante (who first told the story) weren't as varied in their pronunciation as any singers?
If speech was the critical factor, they wouldn't be singing; let's just enjoy what they do so well.
I do not particularly want to be a Debbie Downer, but I never understood why many people prefer amateurs to real opera stars, as in the case of these children and Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman.
It is as if, "they sing almost as good as" makes them better than real trained opera singers.
PS: No offense intended
It is as if, "they sing almost as good as" makes them better than real trained opera singers.
PS: No offense intended
because we are laymen cannot tell the difference
when AGT judges melt for some opera singer I remind myself they are totally incompetent to judge the quality of an opera voice anymore than I am
I have seen them melt over a magic trick that was totally unoriginal and can be learned in a day as there was no real skill involved
which is pathetic
the real talent on those shows deserve better judges and so does the viewing audience
Canada got talent had quality judges in its one season, a comedian, an opera singer, another professional singer
The opera singer, Measha Brueggergosman, pointed out the lack of aspiration, breath control, in this one tenor I thought was fantastic and she honestly stated that another female opera singer on the show was clearly the best of the two. I thought they were equal .
The female opera singer was the only one worthy of winning but voters must have jammed the phone lines - horrible way to choose a winner- and some native dancers won and they were OK for a high school Xmas act
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Firstly, many thanks to the informed minds that correctly stated this particular aria is titled "O mio babbino caro" which is a soprano aria from the opera 'Gianni Schicchi' (1918) by Maestro Puccini to a libretto by Giovacchino Forzano. It is not really meant to be sung by a male operatic performer.
Always an admired aria and a requisite test for any self respecting soprano, it was introduced to wider audience via the film 'A Room with a View" which was nominated for the Best Picture Oscar in 1985. It was performed in the film by Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, a soprano of global respect and admiration.
Originally, composers were usually the conductors of their own work but that era is long gone for centuries now. Now, when a Maestro (Verdi, Puccini, Rossini, et al) composes an opera, it is then handed over to a conductor much the same way a screenplay is passed over to a film director.. They are both free to discuss tone, pace and style but in the end, as far as the presentation goes, the conductor gets the say. The conductors that would most stand out as masters in their field would be
Toscanini, Solti, Beecham, Von Karajan (a personal favourite) and more recently Mehta and Levine. Placido Domingo is no slouch either although forever seen as a tenor. Closer to home, I very much enjoyed the late, great Richard Bradshaw from our own COC.
Maestro Verdi was known to say that conductors never respected the composer's work although he eventually formed an amicable relationship with Toscanini. Also, when Maestro Puccini died before he completed 'Turandot', his protege, Franco Alfano, completed the score with the permission of Signora Puccini. He then approached Toscanini with the completed score and the conductor decided that out of respect, on the first night 'Turandot' was performed, the opera performance would conclude at the point where Puccini died. It was only performed in completion upon the second performance.
Of course, these great masters are all gone now. Mozart, Puccini and Verdi live on within their stunning music forever but they are not around to consult on the productions produced in this day and age (although, I dearly wish W.A. Mozart had had a say on this weekend's production of COC's 'The Marriage of Figaro', eesh!!).
The conductors have the say now. Like the composers, they have their fans and detractors.
Senor Draper,
In earlier times, would this male singer have been considered a Castratto?
A castrato (Italian, plural: castrati) is a type of classical male singing voice equivalent to that of a soprano, mezzo-soprano, or contralto. The voice is produced by castration of the singer before puberty, or it occurs in one who, due to an endocrinological condition, never reaches sexual maturity.
In earlier times, would this male singer have been considered a Castratto?
A castrato (Italian, plural: castrati) is a type of classical male singing voice equivalent to that of a soprano, mezzo-soprano, or contralto. The voice is produced by castration of the singer before puberty, or it occurs in one who, due to an endocrinological condition, never reaches sexual maturity.
I believe Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli have operatic singing training and experience, even though I wouldn't call them opera singers in their own right.
I've seen both and they can do famous arias.
I've seen Andrea Bocelli on a PBS program singing a complete role in an Italian opera.
However, I'm spoiled by the real opera greats.
Not necessarily. A male singer can train his voice to simulate a 'soprano' voice. Another variation of this voice process can also be referred to as 'falsetto'.
There was an era when it was not considered proper for a woman to perform publicly on stage, be it opera or comedic/dramatic theatre. Males would play the female roles. Young boys were castrated (yikes!) in order to keep the soprano voice as long as possible. Keep in mind this DID NOT affect penile erections, so many of these performers who had 'celebrity' status, had a sexual field day with their legion of female fans who had virtually no risk of pregnancy. Hallelujah!!!!
Check out this excellent film if the topic interests you. It's also a great history lesson:
As you must know, Figaro is on at the COC
I phoned and the cheap seats are fifty
I also signed up for email notifications of their Opera Appreciation Course and their Opera Insight class
Is Figaro a good choice for my first opera?
I fear it will be too long at 3.4 hours and my attention will not last
A cheaper alternative is to go to the Met operas that Players theaters play live and in stereo every Saturday during season
With all due respect to our COC, please skip this particular production of 'Marriage of Figaro'. I saw it on the weekend and it had more 'fails' than it should have.
For my 0.02c hang in there until April and go see 'Carmen' for your first opera. You can log in to coc.ca for tix. The formidable conductor, Sr. Paolo Carignani, will be at the helm for this one so I would say it's worth the wait.
