Question for all those who do not believe in a "system"

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If you walk into a casino, see a roulette table on which the last 10-12 numbers drawn were all reds, would you put your money on black or red? Please answer honestly.
 

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I would choose randomly. Past performance does not predict future outcomes, period.

Would that mean that the wheel is "due" to land on black? Or does that mean that red is on a "hot streak"?

Neither, it's all random.
 

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anonemouse said:
I would choose randomly. Past performance does not predict future outcomes, period.

Would that mean that the wheel is "due" to land on black? Or does that mean that red is on a "hot streak"?

Neither, it's all random.
When you say you "would choose randomly" do you realize the human
brain is very poor at generating a truly random sample ? In all probability you would be picking numbers that you like, or numbers that you have previously had some success with.
 

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Well, in the scenario that he provided you have to choose randomly between red and black. I'm pretty sure my brain can manage that.

There was a thread about number systems for the lottery, but you closed it.

This one is about roulette.
 

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I would put my money on the same colour the good looking lady was playing. Easier to strike up a conversation.
 

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arthurfonzerelli said:
Do you realize that when you say the brain is very poor at generating a truly random sample, you're saying it's better to make a quick-pick in order to reduce the number of ways you'd have to split winnings?
In fact the quick pick is probably the only way you have to enhance your winnings in the lottery. Keep in mind that this is not enhancing your chances, merely how much you earn if it hits.
A quick pick would definitely be better than your brain at generating a random sample.

However, as you know, that would not be my chosen strategy. In this
case I would use the historical average red/black ratio for that game to guide me.
I used historical ratio and other Keno parameters quite effectively back in Feb
last year getting 7/7 four times ( odds of getting 7/7 : 1:15,0000) in one month. However, you and I discussed
this already in another thread and we agreed to disagree..he he hehe !
 

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arthurfonzerelli said:
Well, I agree that you're entitled to believe what you believe.
But, you're wrong that there are any systems that work (in any real sense of the word).
;)
Don't let that discourage you from having fun playing.
hehe
I honestly believe you have to earn the jackpot, if you wait for OLG
to hand jackpot over to you via a QP, you might be waiting forever.
 
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Well anyways, I agree with Fred and believe in patterns.

How many here that believe it's all random, play the 6/49 and select 1,2,3,4,5,6 every week? I bet none. I know it's random but also believe it is better to go with the "flow".

anonemouse said:
I would choose randomly. Past performance does not predict future outcomes, period.

Would that mean that the wheel is "due" to land on black? Or does that mean that red is on a "hot streak"?
Neither, it's all random.
That would mean that the wheel is "due" to land on black. Ok, let me make it a little more interesting. Let's say in the history of roulette, around the world, the ball has never landed on the same color more than 25 times in a row, EVER. You walk in there and see the that the last 25 balls were all red. Would you honestly not start betting on black?? Given of course, that the wheel was not rigged.

COME ON!!!
 

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Sargeant StiffCock said:
Well anyways, I agree with Fred and believe in patterns.

How many here that believe it's all random, play the 6/49 and select 1,2,3,4,5,6 every week? I bet none. I know it's random but also believe it is better to go with the "flow".
People do play those types of combinations, others simply draw straight lines
on the play slip..but it just means they are fattening the jackpot for those who are taking greater care in preparing their numbers.
 

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Serotic wheeling system

arthurfonzerelli said:
I know you do.
Seriously, good luck.
Good news arthurfonzerelli !
Ont. Daily Keno: 2 - Jan -09

6/6 @$2 1 line= $2, 000.00
6/7 @$1.00 1 line = $50
5/6 @ $1 3 lines $75.00
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Total prize money = $2,125.00
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Unfortunately, I have to wait till Monday to collect.
But I will scan winning ticket and post here.

I used a Serotic wheel to prepare the game. Total cost for game was just under
$40.00 because I had $2 wager on some of the lines.
 

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Hurricane Hank said:
I would put my money on the same colour the good looking lady was playing. Easier to strike up a conversation.
This is a good idea... I'll have to remember it.

If a roulette table has the past ten spins come up red... it's just a streak that will probably end once you place your bet on red for the 11th spin.
 

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I'm not interested in anyone's one time winnings. I would be more interested in the amount you've spent to date, and what you've won.

But anyone that posts "People do play those types of combinations, others simply draw straight lines
on the play slip..but it just means they are fattening the jackpot for those who are taking greater care in preparing their numbers." just isn't going to get it, folks.

As long as you're enjoying yourself, then good luck to you. It's a free country, and you can believe whatever you like.




(but that still doesn't mean you're right! :) )
 

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anonemouse said:
I'm not interested in anyone's one time winnings. I would be more interested in the amount you've spent to date, and what you've won.


(but that still doesn't mean you're right! :) )
It isn't a "one time winning" - as there were several others before that in the recent past, most of the winnings utilized the same system. I had another 6/6 on Keno
as recently as mid Nov-08. As you say, most people play the game for fun. What I have spent is much less than what I have won. It's always nice to get some money back from OLG. Basically, I prefer to play
with their money, not mine. The game is more fun that way.

"People do play those types of combinations, others simply draw straight lines
on the play slip..but it just means they are fattening the jackpot for those who are taking greater care in preparing their numbers."

This is unfortunately true. Don't assume everyone is as number
literate as you are. And some folks spending their last
$2 on a 649 are definitely not playing for fun, they are expecting
something back from OLG.
 

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Sargeant StiffCock said:
If you walk into a casino, see a roulette table on which the last 10-12 numbers drawn were all reds, would you put your money on black or red? Please answer honestly.
Red, a streak can go on for ever, it can only end once.

I used to play a fair bit of roulette, and often times you'd see 8-12 evens, or a colour, or 19-36/1-18 in a row. The most I've ever seen is 17 of one selection in a row.

There is nothing crooked about it, each spin is individual and random, and unaffected by the spin that occured before it.
 

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hi fred! can you analize belgium keno please? i lose alot of money with quick pick! how does your system work can you learn me please? i would try with belgium keno! thank you
 

Gunokin

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ok fred but where can I REad and learn about your system please give me answer I m FROM Belgium! thank you
 

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Gunokin said:
ok fred but where can I REad and learn about your system please give me answer I m FROM Belgium! thank you
How many numbers is your Keno.. ?
And how much $$ for 5, 6, 8 or 10 numbers ?
I use combinations by [ Robert Serotic]
you can search for his name on Google then order
his book online. Once you read his book you should be able to
design your own wheels/systems for your Keno.
Some games I prepared using his systems
had 8/8 recently, unfortunately I did not play the numbers that day -
I would have won $25,000.
Last week I had 7/8 which only pays $200.00
but it's still one number away from the jackpot.
Good luck Gunokin
 

Gunokin

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70 numbers !
5 pays :150 euro for 1 euro
6 : 200
7 : 3000
8 :10 000
9 : 50 000
10 : 250 000
ok I will read that Fred! but can you check our keno please?
thank you
 
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