Question for Agency Verifications

[Eugene T_T]

Hi y'all,

First post here but for those who have visited agencies such as GG where they require specific personal information (driver's license for example) to book among other things if you're not able to verify via other methods (no referral or TERB account with history), do you believe there to be a risk where your information could be leaked?

Now, it's not that I completely distrust agencies and nor do I know their process for record-keeping and encryption, but it just feels unsettling LOL. I guess you'd have to accept that as an inherent risk if you wish to see their talent. Anyone able to shine some light? Looking for some assurance/insight here thanks.

 

[Hunter96]

You left you digital foot print while writing this even though you tried your best. Nothing in this world is encrypted if it comes to LE.

if your not involved in national threat, sexual assault and trafficking, you should not worry about your digital foot print.

At least, that’s what logic I understood and I am not perfect at all.

 

[Jenesis]

You left you digital foot print while writing this even though you tried your best. Nothing in this world is encrypted if it comes to LE.

if your not involved in national threat, sexual assault and trafficking, you should not worry about your digital foot print.

At least, that’s what logic I understood and I am not perfect at all.

Does he know whether the agency is involved in trafficking??? Won’t really know until the place is busted. Which has shockingly happened. It just happened to an Asian agency that was very popular here and the Asian board just a couple of months ago. Guys here were reviewing and seeing trafficked girls and they had no idea.

I don’t know agency protocol on retaining information but as you said, everything can be backtracked so why take the risk of it is something he worries about? Greater risk with an agency in that regard I would think th with a single indy SP just based on all the people involved. Multiple girls, bookers, drivers. Only take one of them to fuck over the entire agency with LE and since what you guys are doing is illegal, he has a very valid question.

Plus I know some agencies that have meticulous records going back to the days that they opened. And other agencies have absolutely nothing. You just never know.

OP - guys here will better be able to help you but your concerns are valid. At the end of the day - you have to weigh your own risk in this.

 

[Eugene T_T]

Does he know whether the agency is involved in trafficking??? Won’t really know until the place is busted. Which has shockingly happened. It just happened to an Asian agency that was very popular here and the Asian board just a couple of months ago. Guys here were reviewing and seeing trafficked girls and they had no idea.

I don’t know agency protocol on retaining information but as you said, everything can be backtracked so why take the risk of it is something he worries about? Greater risk with an agency in that regard I would think th with a single indy SP just based on all the people involved. Multiple girls, bookers, drivers. Only take one of them to fuck over the entire agency with LE and since what you guys are doing is illegal, he has a very valid question.

Plus I know some agencies that have meticulous records going back to the days that they opened. And other agencies have absolutely nothing. You just never know.

OP - guys here will better be able to help you but your concerns are valid. At the end of the day - you have to weigh your own risk in this.

Oh wow…. Do you mind sharing which agency this was?

 

[Jenesis]

Oh wow…. Do you mind sharing which agency this was?

I don’t know the name of the recent one or maybe I am getting them confused timeline wise but here is the case of MoonWaiting. A very popular and well known Asain agency

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/moonwaiting-trafficking-wtf.764670/

They were not the only Asain agency. There was some a few years before MW as well and I think it was back in the mid-2000s that 4play was busted for underage girls and clients from the agency were contacted in the investigation but this was before c36.

 

[massman]

Does he know whether the agency is involved in trafficking??? Won’t really know until the place is busted. Which has shockingly happened. It just happened to an Asian agency that was very popular here and the Asian board just a couple of months ago. Guys here were reviewing and seeing trafficked girls and they had no idea.

Constantly rotating girls, “newly arrived”, many with zero English skills, advertising unsafe services, and guys have “no idea” these girls might be trafficked.

 

[massman]

Hi y'all,

First post here but for those who have visited agencies such as GG where they require specific personal information (driver's license for example) to book among other things if you're not able to verify via other methods (no referral or TERB account with history), do you believe there to be a risk where your information could be leaked?

Now, it's not that I completely distrust agencies and nor do I know their process for record-keeping and encryption, but it just feels unsettling LOL. I guess you'd have to accept that as an inherent risk if you wish to see their talent. Anyone able to shine some light? Looking for some assurance/insight here thanks.

I think that there is no way to answer this question. Your best shot is to ask the agency, but how much trust you might put in their answer is questionable. In general, the agency has little to gain (and much to lose if they are known for doing it) from disclosing your info. But, how valuable is your private info and how much do you have to lose if it’s no longer private, these are more important factors, because once you give your identity to someone else, you relinquish control of what they do with it.

 

[Hunter96]

And Indy asking for work email and active linked in profile is fine. Right?

 

[massman]

And Indy asking for work email and active linked in profile is fine. Right?

It’s fine if you are fine with it, and not fine if you are not fine with it.

 

[Hunter96]

It’s fine if you are fine with it, and not fine if you are not fine with it.

You’re absolutely right and I believe that you would agree that this rule applies to all and everywhere.

 

[xix]

An old friend passed away. I had a psychic feeling. So I emailed him, in 3 days a reply with money asking.
I did an obituary search and it came up.
SO the Bell Canada worker stole his ID once the family closed the internet account.
If Bell cannot control this why should I trust an escort agency.?

 

[massman]

An old friend passed away. I had a psychic feeling. So I emailed him, in 3 days a reply with money asking.
I did an obituary search and it came up.
SO the Bell Canada worker stole his ID once the family closed the internet account.
If Bell cannot control this why should I trust an escort agency.?

How did bell steal his ID??

 

[LTO_3]

Ask them why they need it. If their answer is questionable then move on. Otherwise I'd be very wary of providing info that could potentially be used against you.

LTO_3

 

[xix]

How did bell steal his ID??

The employee who works there or contractors that doesn't speak perfect English, and not Quebec either.
Someone has to close the account.

Mind you I doubt Bell has operators now.

I just closed my BMO investorline account over the phone. Do you think I trust the other person at the end of the line in which his English was not so great?

 

[massman]

The employee who works there or contractors that doesn't speak perfect English, and not Quebec either.
Someone has to close the account.

Mind you I doubt Bell has operators now.

I just closed my BMO investorline account over the phone. Do you think I trust the other person at the end of the line in which his English was not so great?

I really don’t understand this at all. How do you /he know Bell stole his ID? What actually was stolen? How did it affect him??

 

[Raiders89]

I had an agency as for a picture of my government ID, my legal name, and one other invasive piece of information the other day since it would have been my first time booking with them. I simply told them for a business that deals in discretion that’s a lot of information you’re asking for, and frankly it’s a violation of my privacy. Then they went on a rant about how it’s for the girls safety.

I understand wanting to keep the ladies safe, but there has to be some sort of middle ground. Hell, I’d rather leave my ID in a secure place while the incall happens, then get it back once we’re done. At least that way the lady remembers me, but there’s no record. That probably won’t work, but I’m just saying they need to figure something else out.

 

[martel2l]

Constantly rotating girls, “newly arrived”, many with zero English skills, advertising unsafe services, and guys have “no idea” these girls might be trafficked.

The unsafe services is just a cultural difference. Japanese and korean girls do bareback in their home countries in part because the prevalence of ITSS is very low.
Trafficked would mean against their will, and that seems highly implausible for the vast majority of them. They just want easy and quick bucks like most girls that do this. Do you also think the so-called JAV are trafficked?

Also to OP: you don't risk much giving away your info except if you're a high profile individual or something. The average joe has no reason to be wary imo.

 

[Jenesis]

The unsafe services is just a cultural difference. Japanese and korean girls do bareback in their home countries in part because the prevalence of ITSS is very low.
Trafficked would mean against their will, and that seems highly implausible for the vast majority of them. They just want easy and quick bucks like most girls that do this. Do you also think the so-called JAV are trafficked?

Also to OP: you don't risk much giving away your info except if you're a high profile individual or something. The average joe has no reason to be wary imo.

So the average Joe who is married has nothing to worry about???? What about his job? His family and friends?

I think some would think that is a lot to lose

 

[drlove]

I had an agency as for a picture of my government ID, my legal name, and one other invasive piece of information the other day since it would have been my first time booking with them. I simply told them for a business that deals in discretion that’s a lot of information you’re asking for, and frankly it’s a violation of my privacy. Then they went on a rant about how it’s for the girls safety.

I understand wanting to keep the ladies safe, but there has to be some sort of middle ground. Hell, I’d rather leave my ID in a secure place while the incall happens, then get it back once we’re done. At least that way the lady remembers me, but there’s no record. That probably won’t work, but I’m just saying they need to figure something else out.

I suppose it works both ways. Some ladies feel safer obtaining more information from their clients, which I completely understand. However, since the laws changed, making purchasing illegal, a lot of gentleman may not feel particularly comfortable providing it, not because of anything nefarious, but due to the fact it could have negative repercussions professionally were the info to fall into the possession of LE somehow. That said, it comes down to personal comfort. If you’re cool with it, great! If not, thank the lady for her time and politely decline. That’s all you can really do. Keep in mind, the ladies here all provide a valuable service, which I personally am grateful for. Ultimately, they are the gatekeepers.

 

[xix]

I really don’t understand this at all. How do you /he know Bell stole his ID? What actually was stolen? How did it affect him??

Not "BELL" the corporation itself but, the employee or contractor stole the email address. So this clown was posing as my friend with his email address to borrow money from me.