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I believe it's Quebec's cultural influence that has made Canada what it is:

-- More tolerant towards sex than Americans or Brits
-- A country with a strong art/culture appreciation
-- A belief in capitalism tempered by communal interests
-- Anti-gun, pro-gay, progressive outlook
-- Love/hate attitude towards large, centralized institutions

Outside of Quebec and central/urban Ontario the rest of the country is made up of hicks from the sticks who would, if they could, turn Canada into a backwards, repressive, moralistic, intolerant, and cruel society.

I think the only reason Ontario has strong progressive attitudes is its historic nearness to Quebec, and over time, Ontario has absorbed some of Quebec's ideas as it absorbed some of its people.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
 
In Calgary they drive like they have spurs on.... horrible city..

My favourite non-Ontario city is Quebec City. Ahh the food, the good looking women, the architecture, the river, the food...

I'd live there if I could...
 
fuji said:
I believe it's Quebec's cultural influence that has made Canada what it is:

-- More tolerant towards sex than Americans or Brits
-- A country with a strong art/culture appreciation
-- A belief in capitalism tempered by communal interests
-- Anti-gun, pro-gay, progressive outlook
-- Love/hate attitude towards large, centralized institutions

Outside of Quebec and central/urban Ontario the rest of the country is made up of hicks from the sticks who would, if they could, turn Canada into a backwards, repressive, moralistic, intolerant, and cruel society.

I think the only reason Ontario has strong progressive attitudes is its historic nearness to Quebec, and over time, Ontario has absorbed some of Quebec's ideas as it absorbed some of its people.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Frankly, I thought it was Vancouver all the time.

Quebec OTH, always seemed moralist and conservative to me.
 
There are loads of exceptions, but in general I agree.

I think it's truer that urban Canada keeps the rest of the country sane.
 
I basicall agree, but:

fuji said:
Outside of Quebec and central/urban Ontario the rest of the country is made up of hicks from the sticks who would, if they could, turn Canada into a backwards, repressive, moralistic, intolerant, and cruel society.
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Mind you much of that influence is from post Quiet Revolution and post Catholic Quebec. French Canadians have their own special brand of religious xenophobic mean spirited hicks. And the problem isn't with the West, or the rural areas-- If you actually look at the 'Francophone belt' across Canada these places all tend to be less socially conservative and less neo-liberal in their views.

Look at the federal voting map between places that are 'rural OR urban and overwhelmingly WASP or Quebecois' vs. 'rural and mixed Alnglo-Franco-Native' vs. 'urban multicultural'.

I also wouldn't give the Quebecois too much credit as I think anyplace that is highly uniform with limited social mobility is a breeding ground for far right ideology. Rural Quebec has plenty of that as well (See: ADQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_démocratique_du_Québec ). Mind you non-Anglo, post Quiet Revolution, and post Catholic does help mitigate Canadian behaviour compared to the USA, UK, or even Australia.
 
The Options Menu said:
I basicall agree, but:

Mind you much of that influence is from post Quiet Revolution and post Catholic Quebec. French Canadians have their own special brand of religious xenophobic mean spirited hicks. And the problem isn't with the West, or the rural areas-- If you actually look at the 'Francophone belt' across Canada these places all tend to be less socially conservative and less neo-liberal in their views.

Look at the federal voting map between places that are 'rural OR urban and overwhelmingly WASP or Quebecois' vs. 'rural and mixed Alnglo-Franco-Native' vs. 'urban multicultural'.

I also wouldn't give the Quebecois too much credit as I think anyplace that is highly uniform with limited social mobility is a breeding ground for far right ideology. Rural Quebec has plenty of that as well (See: ADQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_démocratique_du_Québec ). Mind you non-Anglo, post Quiet Revolution, and post Catholic does help mitigate Canadian behaviour compared to the USA, UK, or even Australia.
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Agreed.

While I do think that Quebec society is in general more open minded, progressive, and socially conscious than the ROC and the States, the latest debate on immigration and multiculturalism (regarding "Reasonable Accomodations") has shown a shocking amount of rampant xenophobia and racism throughout the province. To say nothing of the socially accepted racism toward aboriginal in Québec.
 
They also have a strong influence on the SP and MPA and SC scene as they come here to make more money as Toronto prices are higher


Had a french MPA a while ago at Shilouette and she was a bundle of fun

They do have more class IMHO

Go into a gas station and you can buy wine with the appropriate meat and cheeses


Working man restaurants have china and silver and people dress nicer
 
1. None of the qualities/beliefs has much to do with sanity or insanity
2. The Brits are as anti-gun as the French
3. People who think that Quebec is pro-gay or otherwise more tolerant have obviously not been outside of Montreal - even then Vancouver and Toronto are arguably significantly more tolerant than Montreal with respect to gays
4. Quebec is generally regarded and described as pro-labour socialist society rather than pro-capitalism
5. More open minded about sex - again this may be true in Montreal but hardly applies in the rural areas of Quebec

While many of the younger people are now rebelling, Quebec life was dominated for centuries by the rigid authority of the Catholic church.

The myth that Quebecers are more tolerant about anything because they are regarded as more fun-loving was basically destroyed by Herouxville and the "Reasonable Accomdation Commission". It exposed the ugly underbelly of "non-Montreal" Quebec and its ethnic, religious and racial intolerance which was shocking. In many small towns the attitudes seemed disturbingly similar to Alabama in the '50's and '60's.

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=8af3c4eb-5bc7-40bc-ba38-93f785c5646a

http://www.slaw.ca/2008/05/22/repor...on-on-reasonable-accommodation-of-minorities/

Quebec is known for its artistic and cultural diversity ranging from the sophistication of ballet at Place des Arts, the creativity of Cirque de Soleil to homespun entertainment similar to what you find in the Maritimes. Certainly the Cirque has become known worldwide but most Canadian musical artists who are nationally and internationally known actually come from the Maritimes and Ontario.

There have also been several important Quebec painters such as Riopelle but they have by no means been anything close to a dominant force in Canadian art when you consider the Group of seven and http://www.painterseleven.com/ to name just a few.

Where Montreal has a clear edge is in the fashion industry and certain areas of communication art, such as animation.

Last but not least, Quebec women have the most style, are the most beautiful and sexually adavanced of any women in North America. :D
 
train you win the best answer award



let us not forget hockey

Also they are anti war as seen in the lack of enlistment in both wars

They have also been historically oppressed when Quebec was

called Lower Canada whch explains the above
 
On the Catholic church comments, that's overdone, there has always been a huge gulf between the official policy and what actually goes on, in every catholic country. Maybe something to do with being able to go to confession. I do believe that Quebec has *always* been more sexually tolerant than English Canada, even in the hey day of the church.

I did specifically leave out immigrants in my list. Quebec may be progressive minded but it is not tolerant of immigrant culture. This is, I think, similar to any European country--it' s a problem with being a "nation state".
 
And to think they almost left......

OTB
 
train said:
1. None of the qualities/beliefs has much to do with sanity or insanity
2. The Brits are as anti-gun as the French
3. People who think that Quebec is pro-gay or otherwise more tolerant have obviously not been outside of Montreal - even then Vancouver and Toronto are arguably significantly more tolerant than Montreal with respect to gays
4. Quebec is generally regarded and described as pro-labour socialist society rather than pro-capitalism
5. More open minded about sex - again this may be true in Montreal but hardly applies in the rural areas of Quebec.
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Agreed with most of what you wrote above (and what followed), except maybe for pt. 5.

My experience growing up in a small town in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in the North of Quebec suggest that there is a significant difference in the attitude towards sex than what I've experienced in Toronto or Ottawa. Obviously, I don't know what is going on behind close door, and while my own "field" sample of both population may be significantly higher than the majority, it is still a limited and anecdotal sample. But if we're talking about attitude, I'd say that people in Québec are generally significantly less prude than people in the ROC.

I don't think that it translates into a more positive and accepting attitude toward gays however, or toward other "non-conforming" sexualities (such as paid-for-sex or BDSM).
 
I thank God for giving us Quebec so we have delightful treats such as the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGRq3sG5oic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwSdV5GnA9E

and the post 1960's attitudes towards sex and just life in general is the best thing ever, I would take that over some of the evangelical neo cons from Alberta any day. Yes there is trend towards more socialist ways but thats as a result of the collapse of the power of the church that ran entire institutions for centuries (Quebec had no ministry of education till 1964), along with the willngness of the majority of the population to pay high taxes in return for perceived cultural and language protection.
 
Yoga Face said:
train you win the best answer award



let us not forget hockey

Also they are anti war as seen in the lack of enlistment in both wars

They have also been historically oppressed when Quebec was

called Lower Canada whch explains the above
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I don't know about your statement concerning ww 11, but Canada had a draft in WW 1, and said draft was instituted at the request of his majesty's government because too many of the flower of England were dying in that senseless slaughter. Now I believe the English / french split was closer in those days and the thought of mandatory service for his majesties armies provoked draft riots in Montreal for various reasons including the exemption of certain workers from the draft. A mark of great sensibility in my mind.
 
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