Quebec Charter of Values
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So I guess you don't know anything about this crackpot Galganov.
Did you expect no demonstration?
As far as I know that was the first time Mulcair came out against it and it was the same day I posted - September 10th. Guess he felt lonely and embarrassed that he was the only federal leader that hadn't already done so.
Guess is the correct word. Something tells feeling lonely is not an emotion that Mulcair would experience very much, especially in the political forum.
Trudeau - Quebec’s Long Lasting Curse On Canada
Howard Galganov
site de l’auteur
jeudi 12 octobre 2006
[HR][/HR] Thursday, October 12, 2006 Canada By Howard Galganov
I receive a great deal of e-mails concerning Quebec and Quebec language policies that drive people crazy, since the unrestricted use of the English language in the province of Quebec is illegal.
And now, to assuage Quebecois nationalism and French speakers outside of Quebec, the public use of French is being made mandatory throughout Canada, even where there is no significant French speaking population.
Ernest Semple’s latest letter to me bemoans how sad Quebec has become since the introduction of French only language laws. He writes about people and issues that are destroying what was not that long ago Canada’s premiere city (Montreal), which was no more than a generation ago one of the greatest places to live on the planet.
But it isn’t any longer.
Ernest’s letter can be read in its original form at the Letters to the Publisher section found in the MENU to the right of this Editorial under the title : Quebec must come out of its three decade coma !
In response to Ernest’s letter - here is the reality of Quebec as I see it.
Quebec is so broken that it is almost beyond the point where it can be fixed.
The best thing that can happen to Canada, is for Quebec to leave. But I wouldn’t hold my breath for Quebec’s departure any time soon, since they have a really good thing going for themselves within Canada.
The late Quebec Separatist Premier, Rene Levesque, said it best when he said : Quebec should be independent within a strong Canada.
His wish is being realized.
When there is any issue, event or policy that Quebec has in common with the rest of the country, it is always described as Quebec and Canada. Never Quebec within Canada.
To me, this sounds like two countries. I can not recall even once reading or hearing a report that says Ontario and Canada. Or any other Province and Canada. Even in today’s National Post (October 12, 2006), they ran an article that said Quebec and Canada.
Ernest’s line-up of Quebec’s more infamous Anglo and Jew haters, such as Adrian Arcand, Lambert Closse, Andre Laurendeau, and Abbe Lionel Groulx says much about Quebec’s past.
But, as he observed, these men are honored even today as Quebec icons with parks, subway stations, colleges and streets named after them. This says as much about Quebec’s present as it says about Quebec’s racist past.
It also gives us a view into Quebec’s future.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau was one of Quebec’s most noteworthy men of shame (at least to me), even though he is seen by many within Canada as one of the country’s great Prime Ministers.
It was Trudeau who gave us such things as the "Official Languages Act" which has no other purpose other than to promote French in the rest of Canada, while it absolutely ignores English Rights in Quebec.
Trudeau gave us Multi-Culturalism which is gutting English Canada, while at the same time, it was never permitted in his beloved Quebec where French is the ONLY legal language and culture.
Trudeau created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights which gives some Canadians Rights which other Canadians don’t have. And in his "wisdom" he stacked the Supreme Court of Canada with Liberal activist judges who routinely decide upon what constitutes Charter Rights, and what does not.
A perfect example is Quebec’s labor laws, which according to the Supreme Court of Canada violates two of the Charters stated civil liberties. But, because of Quebec’s unique characteristics (according to the Supreme Court), Quebec can continue to violate the rights of Canada’s workers in and outside of Quebec.
And as for the draconian French ONLY language laws within Quebec, Trudeau was silent.
But, when asked to defend their rights to use the English language without restrictions by his predominantly English speaking constituents in the riding of Mount Royal, where he was routinely elected with massive majorities, his response was : "Don’t look to me to fight your battles".
Trudeau also tore into Western Canada, specifically oil rich Alberta, where he raped their oil wealth to keep his power and influence in Quebec and Ontario. But he never touched his sacred Hydro Quebec.
Trudeau drove huge chasms between Canada and the United States, bringing us ever so closer to South America, Europe and Asia where we get no benefits whatsoever.
And when Trudeau died, no one was more sorrowed to see him go than Castro, who was ever so evident at his funeral in Montreal. Being loved and admired by a brutal dictator is nothing a man of honor would or should want on his resume. Especially a leader of a Democracy.
But Trudeau was indeed admired by Castro. Trudeau’s son Alexandre loves to talk about the wonderful times the Trudeaus spent as Castro’s guests. I guess the Trudeaus never saw that Cuba was a totalitarian bankrupt country where individual Rights didn’t, and still don’t exist.
As a Canadian who happens to be Jewish and a strong advocate of Israel, I hold a special dislike for Trudeau, who successfully hid his absolute contempt for the Jewish state, while at the same time he overtly showed his admiration and respect for Israel’s despotic Arab neighbors and enemies.
And just to illustrate a bit of Trudeau’s psyche : During World War II, instead of signing up to fight the Nazis, Trudeau preferred to dress in Nazi regalia and ride his motorcycle in the Quebec countryside.
He also flirted with the very anti-Semitic and pro Fascist Bloc Populaire. This is the man who won his first election on the platform of "The Just Society".
I guess his greatest laugh was on the people who lived in the Mount Royal Riding which consisted of Montreal’s most concentrated and wealthiest Jewish population. I’m sure that he’s still laughing at them from his grave.
Trudeau gave us the beginning of a huge debt, where there was no debt before he came to power in the late 1960’s. He also contributed heavily to the something for nothing bunch which continues to drag on our society even today.
He also stewarded the 21% interest rates of the early 1980’s, which literally led to thousands upon thousands of personal and corporate bankruptcies. And we’re still paying obscene taxes for Trudeau’s social engineering incompetence.
If there was a curse from Quebec to the rest of Canada that was greater than all the others, that curse came with the name Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
In my opinion, Trudeau was far more despicable than the Anglo and Jew haters named in the aforementioned paragraph of this Editorial, since his influence went far beyond the borders of Quebec,
Trudeau’s influence has robbed Canada of the most incredible future any country could have hoped for.
Worst of all : We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Query: Did Trudeau ever denied refusing to serve in WW II while riding around Quebec on his motorcycle dressed in a Nazi uniform?
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...and posting another one of this crackpot columns how? More proof you are just a lazy sob. Many of us did stupid stuff in unversity. Trudeau made up for it many time in later life. If that the main point you offer up from that column, you're loonier than the author.Trudeau - Quebec’s Long Lasting Curse On Canada
Howard Galganov
site de l’auteur
jeudi 12 octobre 2006
[HR][/HR] Thursday, October 12, 2006 Canada By Howard Galganov
I receive a great deal of e-mails concerning Quebec and Quebec language policies that drive people crazy, since the unrestricted use of the English language in the province of Quebec is illegal.
And now, to assuage Quebecois nationalism and French speakers outside of Quebec, the public use of French is being made mandatory throughout Canada, even where there is no significant French speaking population.
Ernest Semple’s latest letter to me bemoans how sad Quebec has become since the introduction of French only language laws. He writes about people and issues that are destroying what was not that long ago Canada’s premiere city (Montreal), which was no more than a generation ago one of the greatest places to live on the planet.
But it isn’t any longer.
Ernest’s letter can be read in its original form at the Letters to the Publisher section found in the MENU to the right of this Editorial under the title : Quebec must come out of its three decade coma !
In response to Ernest’s letter - here is the reality of Quebec as I see it.
Quebec is so broken that it is almost beyond the point where it can be fixed.
The best thing that can happen to Canada, is for Quebec to leave. But I wouldn’t hold my breath for Quebec’s departure any time soon, since they have a really good thing going for themselves within Canada.
The late Quebec Separatist Premier, Rene Levesque, said it best when he said : Quebec should be independent within a strong Canada.
His wish is being realized.
When there is any issue, event or policy that Quebec has in common with the rest of the country, it is always described as Quebec and Canada. Never Quebec within Canada.
To me, this sounds like two countries. I can not recall even once reading or hearing a report that says Ontario and Canada. Or any other Province and Canada. Even in today’s National Post (October 12, 2006), they ran an article that said Quebec and Canada.
Ernest’s line-up of Quebec’s more infamous Anglo and Jew haters, such as Adrian Arcand, Lambert Closse, Andre Laurendeau, and Abbe Lionel Groulx says much about Quebec’s past.
But, as he observed, these men are honored even today as Quebec icons with parks, subway stations, colleges and streets named after them. This says as much about Quebec’s present as it says about Quebec’s racist past.
It also gives us a view into Quebec’s future.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau was one of Quebec’s most noteworthy men of shame (at least to me), even though he is seen by many within Canada as one of the country’s great Prime Ministers.
It was Trudeau who gave us such things as the "Official Languages Act" which has no other purpose other than to promote French in the rest of Canada, while it absolutely ignores English Rights in Quebec.
Trudeau gave us Multi-Culturalism which is gutting English Canada, while at the same time, it was never permitted in his beloved Quebec where French is the ONLY legal language and culture.
Trudeau created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights which gives some Canadians Rights which other Canadians don’t have. And in his "wisdom" he stacked the Supreme Court of Canada with Liberal activist judges who routinely decide upon what constitutes Charter Rights, and what does not.
A perfect example is Quebec’s labor laws, which according to the Supreme Court of Canada violates two of the Charters stated civil liberties. But, because of Quebec’s unique characteristics (according to the Supreme Court), Quebec can continue to violate the rights of Canada’s workers in and outside of Quebec.
And as for the draconian French ONLY language laws within Quebec, Trudeau was silent.
But, when asked to defend their rights to use the English language without restrictions by his predominantly English speaking constituents in the riding of Mount Royal, where he was routinely elected with massive majorities, his response was : "Don’t look to me to fight your battles".
Trudeau also tore into Western Canada, specifically oil rich Alberta, where he raped their oil wealth to keep his power and influence in Quebec and Ontario. But he never touched his sacred Hydro Quebec.
Trudeau drove huge chasms between Canada and the United States, bringing us ever so closer to South America, Europe and Asia where we get no benefits whatsoever.
And when Trudeau died, no one was more sorrowed to see him go than Castro, who was ever so evident at his funeral in Montreal. Being loved and admired by a brutal dictator is nothing a man of honor would or should want on his resume. Especially a leader of a Democracy.
But Trudeau was indeed admired by Castro. Trudeau’s son Alexandre loves to talk about the wonderful times the Trudeaus spent as Castro’s guests. I guess the Trudeaus never saw that Cuba was a totalitarian bankrupt country where individual Rights didn’t, and still don’t exist.
As a Canadian who happens to be Jewish and a strong advocate of Israel, I hold a special dislike for Trudeau, who successfully hid his absolute contempt for the Jewish state, while at the same time he overtly showed his admiration and respect for Israel’s despotic Arab neighbors and enemies.
And just to illustrate a bit of Trudeau’s psyche : During World War II, instead of signing up to fight the Nazis, Trudeau preferred to dress in Nazi regalia and ride his motorcycle in the Quebec countryside.
He also flirted with the very anti-Semitic and pro Fascist Bloc Populaire. This is the man who won his first election on the platform of "The Just Society".
I guess his greatest laugh was on the people who lived in the Mount Royal Riding which consisted of Montreal’s most concentrated and wealthiest Jewish population. I’m sure that he’s still laughing at them from his grave.
Trudeau gave us the beginning of a huge debt, where there was no debt before he came to power in the late 1960’s. He also contributed heavily to the something for nothing bunch which continues to drag on our society even today.
He also stewarded the 21% interest rates of the early 1980’s, which literally led to thousands upon thousands of personal and corporate bankruptcies. And we’re still paying obscene taxes for Trudeau’s social engineering incompetence.
If there was a curse from Quebec to the rest of Canada that was greater than all the others, that curse came with the name Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
In my opinion, Trudeau was far more despicable than the Anglo and Jew haters named in the aforementioned paragraph of this Editorial, since his influence went far beyond the borders of Quebec,
Trudeau’s influence has robbed Canada of the most incredible future any country could have hoped for.
Worst of all : We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Query: Did Trudeau ever denied refusing to serve in WW II while riding around Quebec on his motorcycle dressed in a Nazi uniform?
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As usual, why are you going all hysterical? I'm just trying to provide some historical perspective using external sources (and there are many more) to explain why Quebec as a society (not just Trudeau) is the only province to table a Charter of Values.
BTW: Who taught you manners? If you can't post in a reasoned and rational manner, then don't post.
Not hysterical at all and you're wrong about Quebec being only province to try this Charter gambit. BC tried it a few years back albeit on a different target, but it was shot down as this will be, either in the courts or at the next election, as early as December. The PQ don't want the election in the spring as it will only further hi-light the quagmire that the Quebec economy has become, the worst in Canada. The 'PQ' has tried sovereignty, language, and now it's religion as a wedge style linch pin to 'their' xenophobic platform an attempt hide their utter failure at managing the economy. They can call it a Charter of Values but that is just a name put to bill to suppress religious expression. A freedom protected in section two of the Canadian Charter of Right and Freedom. A pig by any other name is still a pig and that's what this CoV is.
Even PQ backing on the island of Montreal have told them to not push it.
It may be an historic perspective, but it a perspective through a bigots eyes.
Manners, holy fuck, certainly not a phoney like you.
Amazing! You actually make sense once in a blue moon.
There you go again. Emotional immaturity.
Dare I say that even Blackrock agrees Sikhs (among others) are more than entitled to wear their turbans in Quebec. Many Sikhs were actually engaged in combat against tyranny in WW II while many Quebecois (including Trudeau, Richard, Bouchard, etc. refused to serve).
Sikh military head dress has little to do with the topic at hand, not a new tact for you, but you using a bigots rants to justify whatever is rich and is possibly a sign of desperation. You're all over the map these days. Once more your warped view of history, like your 'woe is the world of the Irish', is just comical. It must be a left over angst from the Griffintown ghetto.
You might browbeat other members into submission but you don't scare me one iota with your "all noise, no substance, attack the poster and not the issue" "debating" style. :deadhorse:
I'd probably one of those mentioned. Fuck Francophones, but the charter is good for different reasons.
Just like in the "Russian Baby" thread and now on this thread I tried to provide some historical perspective on Quebecois society and how that accounts for the tabling of the Charter of Values and this Blackrock leaps in with his "all noise, no substance" posts.
Hey Azprint, be careful with your choice of words (your quote above) or Blackrock and his comedy team will come after you.
Considering the issue takes place on provincial level, your libertarian rant on the evils of central planning is hilarious.
Unfortunately for them I am not as obsessed with winning virtual battles as they are.
Unfortunately your attempt failed, not new for you though, as they aren't more entitled, just entitled.
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That's far from a brow beating, just calling you for what you are, phoney. Your Mr Peabody view of hstory is almost comical if it wasn't so sad. Exactly what did I post that was wrong? You were offering no 'issues' in your recent posts, so it's a classic pot kettle black moment from you , nothing more.
You're definition of noise and no substance is basically your way of actually standing behind you shite, much like you 'jesus loves you' schtick and no one with at least half a brain buys it.
Not "more entitled". "More than entitled" meaning they are definitely entitled or no doubt they are entitled. You are welcome for the grade 6 grammar lesson.
