They should have shot them down just like the Turks did when a Russian Sukhoi crossed into Turkish airspace.
Putin's Russia & Ukraine updates
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And that would be the last Russian/Belarussian helo to cross into Poland!
Now, Putin and his psychopaths are going to poke and test NATO borders.
Exactly. The Russian playbook hasn't changed much, it's a "minor" escalation that'll make you hesitate.
How many Russian fighter jets have crossed into Turkish airspace since November 2015? (Notti was hysterical that day IIRC lol)
They've always done that. Constant probing. A lot of people in the west think a new Cold War is starting, but this is literally the same one. Anyone with a background in intelligence knows it never ended. The Soviet Union collapsed, former Warsaw Pact westernized, Russia joined the G8 and G20, but the spying and rivalry never ended.
If anyone in NATO tested Russia the way Russia has tested NATO for decades, Russia would've been crying foul and saying they were being bullied.
But now... If Russia probes now, we should let them come inside the ADIZ and have USAF tail them in F-22s until they've gone too far to be able to pretend it was an accident, and then just shoot every single one of them down. No warning, no mercy. And then don't even say it happened. Let the story come out naturally through OSINT and play dumb. I'd love to see how the Vatniks would spin that.
Speaking of escalations, shooting down MH17/KLM4103 wasn't minor at all,
Russia should have been treated like a dirty pariah, worse than North Korea.
Obama's response was all talk and Europe kept on doing business with them. Life goes on after murdering 298 people. Putin took notes.
Russia should have been treated like a dirty pariah, worse than North Korea.
Obama's response was all talk and Europe kept on doing business with them. Life goes on after murdering 298 people. Putin took notes.
Yeah, the Russians have an annoying tendency to shoot down civie airliners. Should of lit them helos up.
The only thing countries like Russia and leaders like Poutine respect is a punch in the face.
Pussy footing just encourages them. Ditto for why we need to help Ukraine curb stomp the Ruskis as much as humanly possible. Ukraine must not fail. Good for us, good for Ukraine, good for Taiwan.
To quote the Hulk, I see this as an absolute win.
Lukashenka wants to prove that his cock is as big as Putin's, he's goading Poland to invade Belarus.
This is the problem with deliberately not enforcing rules and laws. It emboldens scofflaws.
The only way to maintain security is to enforce it.
Yeah, goading a country with the population and the gonads of Ukraine and loads of NATO level integration and training. To quote another avenger. Not a good plan. Up there with killing John Wick's dog to take him off his game.
Oh man, I hope for this. Attack from Belarus, article 5, time for a regime change. Unlike the middle east, if you were to run actual fair elections after some Marshall Plan goodness, they would probably elect someone pro west. Russia ain't going to do shit because if they did, they would lose everything they sent in, as well as their navies and give NATO an excuse to enter Ukraine and smash anything Russia has in the pre 1914 borders. Special Military Operation, yeah baby. Considering how badly Russia is doing vs Ukraine with their old Warsaw Pact era gear and lacking in gear and no air dominance and being only partially trained in the western way of war, I'd gather that the US and Polish forces could wipe the floor with anything Russia sends without much in the way of loses, as long as they don't enter Russia proper with ground forces, Russia won't go nuke... except for Königsberg they should lose that because fuck them, it's a very silly place much like Camelot. Put the fear into WInnie the Pooh and any Taiwan ambitions he might have.
Worse case scenario, Russia does nothing and Belusus joins the west, best case scenario, Russia does something stupid and they get fucked over [again as long as we don't enter Russia proper] and lose their Königsberg, Belarus and Ukraine privileges.
Fuck not even 4 days in and there goes No Fap August.
Meanwhile Alexie Navalny just got more time topped up on his sentence. As he said just before he went back. Better to do good than not to go back and do nothing.
Hope he is happy with his choice. Fuckin nutbar decision to go back.
Hope he is happy with his choice. Fuckin nutbar decision to go back.
Navalny is a complicated and mixed character. Kamil Kazani also writes that Navalny has extremist Far Right Russian nationalist / imperialist ideas that the West overlooks.
