That would be hard for one person to do. How do you think people would react to watching videos of slaughter houses? Not that that would ever happen. The conditions are deplorable. What she did was callous and cruel as I said. But it can't really compare to the systematic abuse of animals that sustain us on a daily basis. They are like products from the time they are born to be processed in a factory. People in North America 100 years ago didn't feel the need to treat them that way, or stuff their faces with anywhere near as much processed meat as we do.
Puppy Killer: Young woman throws newborn puppies into a river.
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At least, there's a almost happy ending.
5 out of the 6 puppies survived and were saved.
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5 out of the 6 puppies survived and were saved.
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Great. Go visit the spca. We are killing them by the thousands in this country. Now we save 5 puppies and, because of the story, people will adopt the poor things. Isn't that sweet. Don't we all feel better about ourselves?At least, there's a almost happy ending. 5 out of the 6 puppies survived and were saved.
Go visit a farm, a slaughterhouse, a puppy mill etc. Go get upset enough to CHANGE it or stfu. You won't. You will be happy that 5 adorable puppies survived and you will wake up and have your bacon and veal and chicken and all the ugly animal cruelty images will fade mercifully into a distant memory until the next puppy story.
It is the hypocrisy that is the most sickening. For those who think the torture the meat animals go through is justified because we are going to eat them, it isn't. The animals going for slaughter face much more unnecessary cruelty on their journey than simply drowning. How many of you go fishing and throw the fish back. Nice.... traumatize them, twist the hook out and throw them back.
Don't get me wrong.... I eat bacon and veal and all the other good things...but...I would also drown a bunch of puppies if need be instead of letting them run around hungry and eventually get run over by a car or take them to the spca to sit in a cage and rot. Actually .... a bag and a hose from the exhaust is kinder than drowning.
This is directed at all the bleeding hearts... not singling out djk
It's ok. I know there's strong opinions expressed by both parties. So I'm not taking it personally. =)Don't get me wrong.... I eat bacon and veal and all the other good things...but...I would also drown a bunch of puppies if need be instead of letting them run around hungry and eventually get run over by a car or take them to the spca to sit in a cage and rot. Actually .... a bag and a hose from the exhaust is kinder than drowning.
This is directed at all the bleeding hearts... not singling out djk
This is a really complex subject.
Great debate on it is going on at this link -- http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/d7e47/sick_fuck_throws_puppies_into_river/
I completely agree with you Sidebanger that unwanted puppies and kittens, the vast majority of them (shall we use the pejorative) mongrels, are a major problem in Canada and the U.S. However, that is a different issue than inhumanely euthanizing an animal. I utterly fail to grasp how on earth anyone could consider throwing small puppies into a river to be a humane way of dealing with the situation.Great. Go visit the spca. We are killing them by the thousands in this country. Now we save 5 puppies and, because of the story, people will adopt the poor things. Isn't that sweet. Don't we all feel better about ourselves?
Newsflash: 100s of thousands of cattle, chicken, pigs and sheep were slaughtered today to fill your urban tummies.
Yeah sure that was wantonly cruel. But as long as you continue to eat meat while you nimbly step over homeless people on your way to your dog-groomers, your hypocrisy is shining through.
Here's an idea - make pets illegal and divert all that wasted cash anthropomorphizing animals like cats and dogs, until every homeless person is properly housed and fed in Ontario, then we can start talking about the poor plight of the puppies. That would be humane.
Yeah sure that was wantonly cruel. But as long as you continue to eat meat while you nimbly step over homeless people on your way to your dog-groomers, your hypocrisy is shining through.
Here's an idea - make pets illegal and divert all that wasted cash anthropomorphizing animals like cats and dogs, until every homeless person is properly housed and fed in Ontario, then we can start talking about the poor plight of the puppies. That would be humane.
This gets to be a bit like the argument that no money should be spend on music, or the arts, or architecture until there is no more poverty. Well, regrettably in that case the world would be a very dull and sad (dare I say impoverished) place for the rest of time.
Likewise, perhaps we should be glad that many of us feel saddened by this mistreatment of animals rather than insisting the world become perfect or that every one care equally about all categories of animals
Likewise, perhaps we should be glad that many of us feel saddened by this mistreatment of animals rather than insisting the world become perfect or that every one care equally about all categories of animals
I grew up on a farm. We dealt with the injury and/or death of animals on a regular basis. We raised and played with the veal calves, then we slaughtered them without compunction. They tasted great. We killed kittens as a matter of course. We would keep enough for mousing in the barn and that was it.I utterly fail to grasp how on earth anyone could consider throwing small puppies into a river to be a humane way of dealing with the situation.
Animals stayed outside even in the dead of winter. If a stray dog showed up, we shot it. As kids we shot small game (birds, squirrels, groundhogs etc.) using bb, pellet and 22cal rifles, for the fun of it. Actually the groundhogs we killed because their holes could cripple the livestock.
If an animal was injured, sometimes the cure was cruel. Sometimes a bullet to the head. Every farmer I know would scoff at the stupidity of this thread. Not because they are cruel. Their perspective of life is not the same.
Canada's people are more sheltered than other countries. The city dwellers are more sheltered than the country people.(not talking about crime) The Canadian city dweller leads an extremely sheltered life compared to others.
It is understandable that there is a difference of perspective. Until the groups can share experiences and appreciate the other's perspective, there will always be a disconnect.
I remember how squeamish the city folks were when we were taking care of business on the farm. We thought is was funny. They were horrified. It is just different.
You will find even greater extremes in third world countries. When you grow up exposed to something different, you will be different. It is not necessarily bad either. Sometimes advancement is bullshit.
I think there is only value if a reasonable change is achieved. It is a start perhaps.Likewise, perhaps we should be glad that many of us feel saddened by this mistreatment of animals rather than insisting the world become perfect or that every one care equally about all categories of animals
Although I didn't truly grow up on a farm I certainly spent plenty of time on them. And I know whereof you speak.I grew up on a farm. We dealt with the injury and/or death of animals on a regular basis. . . .
I remember how squeamish the city folks were when we were taking care of business on the farm. We thought is was funny. They were horrified. It is just different.
Further I know that many in cities have no concept of "the real world" e.g. milk comes from cartons. However, I still disagree I see large differences between humanly putting down an animal or hunting and this girls actions.
As to your veal calves story - the rule was always never give it a name, once you do it dies of old age.
I appreciate the difference. We did what we felt we had to do. It was not a celebration.However, I still disagree I see large differences between humanly putting down an animal or hunting and this girls actions.
lol Absolutely true of the women. The boys thought that was even funnier. Calling a calf 'chop' or 'roast' was not uncommon. As was 'mooing' at the dinner table on the first taste of an old friend. Dark humour for sure. So who are the real animals?As to your veal calves story - the rule was always never give it a name, once you do it dies of old age.
In the 5 or so minutes it took you to watch the video, read these posts and arrive at this point, about 80 children around the world have died from poverty, hunger and preventable diseases. And we are crying over 5 puppies? Hmmmm.
Over 24,000 children die every day around the world.
That is equivalent to:
* 1 child dying every 3.6 seconds
* 16-17 children dying every minute
* A 2010 Haiti earthquake occurring almost every 9-10 days
* A 2004 Asian Tsunami occurring almost every 10 days
* An Iraq-scale death toll every 16–40 days
* Just under 9 million children dying every year
* Some 79 million children dying between 2000 and 2007
The silent killers are poverty, hunger, easily preventable diseases and illnesses, and other related causes. In spite of the scale of this daily/ongoing catastrophe, it rarely manages to achieve, much less sustain, prime-time, headline coverage.
Source: Globalissues.org
Over 24,000 children die every day around the world.
That is equivalent to:
* 1 child dying every 3.6 seconds
* 16-17 children dying every minute
* A 2010 Haiti earthquake occurring almost every 9-10 days
* A 2004 Asian Tsunami occurring almost every 10 days
* An Iraq-scale death toll every 16–40 days
* Just under 9 million children dying every year
* Some 79 million children dying between 2000 and 2007
The silent killers are poverty, hunger, easily preventable diseases and illnesses, and other related causes. In spite of the scale of this daily/ongoing catastrophe, it rarely manages to achieve, much less sustain, prime-time, headline coverage.
Source: Globalissues.org
very trueThere is a certain hypocracy in all this outrage. Compare this to the conditions in slaughter houses for cattle and poultry, and then add to that the actual living conditions they had to endure every day. Anyone here like veal? Read up on what the young animals go through to attain that nice cutlet and you may not want to eat it again. It was a very callous and cruel thing this woman did but let's not fool ourselves. Strict vegetarians I apologize to in advance, and no I am not one myself.
you can talk about not wearing fur when you stop eating fish
no, they don'tCanadians also want to know that the meat they eat comes from animals that did not suffer unduly
Fuck me, now I've heard it all.Newsflash: 100s of thousands of cattle, chicken, pigs and sheep were slaughtered today to fill your urban tummies.
Yeah sure that was wantonly cruel. But as long as you continue to eat meat while you nimbly step over homeless people on your way to your dog-groomers, your hypocrisy is shining through.
Here's an idea - make pets illegal and divert all that wasted cash anthropomorphizing animals like cats and dogs, until every homeless person is properly housed and fed in Ontario, then we can start talking about the poor plight of the puppies. That would be humane.
The City of Toronto wastes 230 million dollars a year on "the homeless" and 1.3 billion a year on Government Houseing.
You could waste 10 billion a year on "the homeless" and it still wouldn't go away.
That's why I'm all for birth control and abortion.In the 5 or so minutes it took you to watch the video, read these posts and arrive at this point, about 80 children around the world have died from poverty, hunger and preventable diseases. And we are crying over 5 puppies? Hmmmm.
Over 24,000 children die every day around the world.
That is equivalent to:
* 1 child dying every 3.6 seconds
* 16-17 children dying every minute
* A 2010 Haiti earthquake occurring almost every 9-10 days
* A 2004 Asian Tsunami occurring almost every 10 days
* An Iraq-scale death toll every 16–40 days
* Just under 9 million children dying every year
* Some 79 million children dying between 2000 and 2007
The silent killers are poverty, hunger, easily preventable diseases and illnesses, and other related causes. In spite of the scale of this daily/ongoing catastrophe, it rarely manages to achieve, much less sustain, prime-time, headline coverage.
Source: Globalissues.org
There are 7 billion people in the world - too many frankly and it's not sustainable.
I understand your point of view because you grew up on a farm but that doesn't make it right for what she did. You have two extreme people here, a cruel girl and a carrying grandmother who has values...I grew up on a farm. We dealt with the injury and/or death of animals on a regular basis. We raised and played with the veal calves, then we slaughtered them without compunction. They tasted great. We killed kittens as a matter of course. We would keep enough for mousing in the barn and that was it.
Animals stayed outside even in the dead of winter. If a stray dog showed up, we shot it. As kids we shot small game (birds, squirrels, groundhogs etc.) using bb, pellet and 22cal rifles, for the fun of it. Actually the groundhogs we killed because their holes could cripple the livestock.
If an animal was injured, sometimes the cure was cruel. Sometimes a bullet to the head. Every farmer I know would scoff at the stupidity of this thread. Not because they are cruel. Their perspective of life is not the same.
Canada's people are more sheltered than other countries. The city dwellers are more sheltered than the country people.(not talking about crime) The Canadian city dweller leads an extremely sheltered life compared to others.
It is understandable that there is a difference of perspective. Until the groups can share experiences and appreciate the other's perspective, there will always be a disconnect.
I remember how squeamish the city folks were when we were taking care of business on the farm. We thought is was funny. They were horrified. It is just different.
You will find even greater extremes in third world countries. When you grow up exposed to something different, you will be different. It is not necessarily bad either. Sometimes advancement is bullshit.
I acknowledged that in post #35 above. My point is that I see such hypocrysy when people get so riled up over a few puppies but take no real action or are silent when it comes to violence, torture, hunger etc. against the food animals and humans.I understand your point of view because you grew up on a farm but that doesn't make it right for what she did. You have two extreme people here, a cruel girl and a carrying grandmother who has values...
