Props to this brave 18 year old mother!!

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BLANCHARD, Okla. – Authorities don't plan to file charges against an Oklahoma woman who fatally shot a New Year's Eve intruder at her house while she had a 911 dispatcher on the phone, but the intruder's alleged accomplice has been charged in the death.
A 911 tape released to Oklahoma City media outlets Wednesday reveals that 18-year-old Sarah McKinley asked a Grady County dispatcher for permission to shoot the intruder. McKinley's 3-month-old son was with her when she shot Justin Shane Martin, 24, at her Blanchard mobile home.

"I've got two guns in my hand. Is it OK to shoot him if he comes in this door?" McKinley asked the dispatcher.
"Well, you have to do whatever you can do to protect yourself," the dispatcher is heard telling McKinley. "I can't tell you that you can do that, but you have to do what you have to do to protect your baby."
Oklahoma law allows the use of deadly force against intruders, and prosecutors said McKinley clearly acted in self-defense. According to court documents, Martin was holding a knife when he died.
"Our initial review of the case doesn't indicate she violated the law in any way," Assistant District Attorney James Walters told The Oklahoman newspaper.
However, prosecutors have charged his alleged accomplice, 29-year-old Dustin Louis Stewart, with first-degree murder. According to authorities, Stewart was with Martin but ran away from McKinley's home after hearing the gunshots.
"When you're engaged in a crime such as first-degree burglary and a death results from the events of that crime, you're subject to prosecution for it," Walters said.
Stewart was arraigned Wednesday and was being held in the Grady County jail. A bond hearing was set for Thursday. His attorney, Stephen Buzin, did not immediately respond to a message left at his office Wednesday night.
According to court documents, Martin and Stewart might have been looking for prescription drugs. McKinley said it took the men about 20 minutes to get through her door, which she had barricaded with a couch.
She said her husband had died about a week earlier -- on Christmas Day -- after being hospitalized with complications from lung cancer earlier that month.

She has the time to barricade the door and did not fire a warning shot and it took 20 minutes to get in. How long before she first heard the intruders and she phoned 911? I would think a 12 guage coming through the door would have scared the guys away prior to them ever getting in. Had they decided to continue with the attempt then by all means cut em down.
 

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If you like the american laws so much, why don't you move to Florida?
I plan to as soon as my retirement papers arrive, which is soon..............., thanks for asking.
 

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And again, I have posted this a number times in this forum. We in Canada DO have the right to use deadly force during a home invasion. You may be charged, but a good attorney will get you off.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2008/06/13/qc-parasiris0613.html
There are just as many cases where the homeowner is put through the grinder if excessive force under the circumstances is used. This ain't no picnic going through the courts with or without a good lawyer.
http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffe...break-in_homeowners_may_face_charges/e00262cd


When your adrelin is flowing at full throttle knowing that someone is trying to brake into your home and potential hurt your family, making decisions on how much force you should use to protect your small children is not an easy exercise. Your only thought at the time is to ensure safety for you and your family and not for the safety of the intruder.

Easy to criticize on a public internet board as we sit back in the comfort and safety of our chair, but your mind does crazy things when you're in a panic state.
 

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There are just as many cases where the homeowner is put through the grinder if excessive force under the circumstances is used. This ain't no picnic going through the courts with or without a good lawyer.
http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffe...break-in_homeowners_may_face_charges/e00262cd


When your adrelin is flowing at full throttle knowing that someone is trying to brake into your home and potential hurt your family, making decisions on how much force you should use to protect your small children is not an easy exercise. Your only thought at the time is to ensure safety for you and your family and not for the safety of the intruder.

Easy to criticize on a public internet board as we sit back in the comfort and safety of our chair, but your mind does crazy things when you're in a panic state.
I am not sure who you are referring to here. If it is the girl in the story, I am afraid I do not see, or heard from the 911 call, anything approaching panic. ( But for me there is still a lot of info missing here in regards to the facts of this case)

Speaking for myself, I have no qualms about using deadly force in a case of invasion and would not let some misguided notion of whether I am acting 'lawfully' enter into the thought process at the time. It is enough for me to know that in this country if I or a member of my family is in imminent physical danger I have the right to use deadly force. Any legal hairsplitting after the fact is of no concern to me. I am fairly confident that unless you are mugging for the cameras making shooting signs with your hands and laughing it up saying stupid shit like, 'I sure popped that mofo!', you will be exonerated in court.
 

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When it comes to legal questions such as murder, it is best not to generalize because the more serious the offense charged, the more it totally depends on the facts... as do all criminal matters.

Suffice it to say that no court that I know of in Canada would convict this lady of any offense on the facts as we know them thus far.

Perry
 

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I seem to recall a case in the 80's where the owner of a store in Alberta shot a would-be burglar and was acquitted of whatever he was charged with. Maybe one of the resident lawyers would know what I'm referring to.
 

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I find it frankly a bit disturbing how everybody here seem to rejoice in somebody being shot to death. I am not saying that he was a nice guy. American justice is not the answer to our problems.
 

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I find it frankly a bit disturbing how everybody here seem to rejoice in somebody being shot to death...
Where the hell are you coming from with a statement like that?

If that is what you got from what has been said thus far, then you have a serious problem inside your head that needs urgent attention! Go and take a look in the mirror!

Perry
 

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the fool got what he deserved. He stalked her, probably lived in the area and knew the poor woman just lost her husband and decided to take advantage of her.
 
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