Proof UFO's do not exist discovered

[261252]

Actually, there is no such proof. Just wanted your attention.

I have a rather convincing argument against UFO's, though.

Somebody see if they can spot any weakness to my logic.

Theory is governments know about the UFO's and are covering it up.
Most likely reason is they fear social turmoil as a result.

There are over a hundred governments - I do not have a clue as to the real number. As well, these government change in who is in charge changing the governments' attitudes towards issues quite drastically. This means since the UFO's have been a known phenomenon there have been thousands of different governments.

It has to be given that a good percentage of them have been, and are presently aware, that UFO's are real, if indeed they are real. Therefore, there must be a world wide conspiracy of governments to cover UFO's up, and this conspiracy has been around for some time.

My point is this: a lot of these governments hate each other and will not even talk to each other. Even the ones that get along cannot agree on common interest rates.

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE ALL THE GOVERNMENTS COVERTLY AGREEING ON THIS ONE ISSUE THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DISCOVERIES IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE?

 

[stang]

Most governments don't know their asses from a hole in the ground.
The UFO's have only made contact with and worked with the ones run by the Illuminati.

 

[aldershot]

Stang is the "spaceman"...

 

[a 1 player]

Carl Sagan showed that there is a great PROBABILITY of life somewhere else in the universe. He also stated that due to the great distances, we would be seeing it at a whole other time if we discovered it by telescope. So, if we found dinosaurs on a planet that was 300 million light years away, they might have evolved into something completely different by the time we discover them. With the knowledge that we have about time and travel, the distances would be too great to ever get there, or for them to make it to us for that matter.

That being said, there is the possibility that a UFO might have been broken down in space for millions of years and happened to crash on earth. I think that that is more likely than aliens visiting us on a regular basis and walking amongst us.

But then again, who the hell knows.

 

[red]

the UFOs are not in contact with the political leaders, but with the real leaders of the world- namely a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

 

[SynFolly]

the UFOs are not in contact with the political leaders, but with the real leaders of the world- namely a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eye! And that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

 

[261252]

red is in trouble now

Damn it red you gave it away. Now we are going come and get you, take you on a little trip and then ... well have you heard about those cattle mutations?

 

[Cinema Face]

The problem with your logic is that you assume that democratic governments with a free press are capable of keeping secrets. They’re actually not as good as you think at cover-ups. Too often, they get found out. If Clinton can’t keep a blow job secret, how could they keep a whole space ship a secret?

I would say that if there was solid evidence of the existence of UFO, it would’ve been leaked by now, especially considering what a monumental discovery that would be.


Here’s my argument against UFO’s.

Let’s assume there are UFO’s. Where did they come from? It is pretty much certain that they did not come from our solar system. That means that they came from another star system.

With what we know about science, interstellar travel is impossible. The extreme distances between stars makes it impossible to travel that far unless there is a way to go much faster than light. From what we understand, it is impossible to go the speed of light, much less faster.

If these aliens developed a way to go much faster than light, then their technology would be way beyond ours. Compared to them, we would be very primitive. Comparing them to us, would be like comparing us to cavemen. So, why would they take an interest in us? We are so inferior to them. Why would they waste their time in our affairs? Why would they be buzzing out planet, putting circles in crops, killing cattle and stupid stuff like that?

The only possible reason that they might take an interest in us if for pure scientific curiosity or it is preliminary recon for a possible planetary invasion.

Either way, if they had the technology to come here from another planet, they certainly would be able to do recon and scientific observation without being detected. We can do that with our stealth planes and predators. Why can’t they?



Ask your self what would we do if we were them? If we had the means to explore the universe would we waste our time dicking around with these primitive humans? If they intend to invade, then why haven’t they already done so? With their technology, there is no way we could stop them.


Here is the final thing that really bugs me about UFO believers. People see a light in the sky, a crop circle, or some other unexplainable phenomena. They don’t understand what we’re looking at. There may be many possible explanations which they don’t yet understand. So what do they do? They come to the absolute most ridiculous conclusion possible. Aliens from outerspace came here and are doing that.

 

[261252]

The problem with your logic is that you assume that democratic governments with a free press are capable of keeping secrets. They’re actually not as good as you think at cover-ups. Too often, they get found out. If Clinton can’t keep a blow job secret, how could they keep a whole space ship a secret?

I would say that if there was solid evidence of the existence of UFO, it would’ve been leaked by now, especially considering what a monumental discovery that would be.


I agree. Your logic combined with mine, makes the case stronger,




With what we know about science, interstellar travel is impossible. The extreme distances between stars makes it impossible to travel that far unless there is a way to go much faster than light. From what we understand, it is impossible to go the speed of light, much less faster.

The key here is "with what we know." When it comes to the universe we know squat.

So, why would they take an interest in us? We are so inferior to them. Why would they waste their time in our affairs?

Remember, if they do exist they are aliens and so too would be their logic. You are thinking like a human.



Here is the final thing that really bugs me about UFO believers. People see a light in the sky, a crop circle, or some other unexplainable phenomena. They don’t understand what we’re looking at. There may be many possible explanations which they don’t yet understand. So what do they do? They come to the absolute most ridiculous conclusion possible. Aliens from outerspace came here and are doing that.

I agree with you. However, the French government has came out and publically stated that UFO's are real. By that they mean they are UNIDENTIFIED. I do find it somewhat puzzling why this is not making headlines over here. Seems like a huge and bold statement to me.

 

[261252]

Trying to travel close to or at the speed of light is not the solution. A new form of logic may open the door to traveling huge distances instantly in a blink of the eye - all based on String Theory and dimensional space travel.

String Theory is the unifying math to Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

If we're capable of understanding this logic today, it's plausible that another sentient life form has developed technology to use it.

Also, I assume in this discussion UFO = Alien Life Form

Good one BIGODEE. Oh are not terbites erudite.

Part of the string theory is that all points in the universe intersect. Therefore, you do not have to travel to visit the other side as you are already there.

No shit, I am serious. Do the math.

However, that does not challenge my original proposition as to why aliens have not visited here which existed simutaneously before, after and at the same time as all other propositions, according the string theory which, by the way, is a theory that is meant to explain the oddities discovered in quantum phyics that we can explain only by such absurd propositions.

The universe is not only more mysterious then we imagine. It is more mysterious then we can imagine. Who needs aliens.

 

[BottomsUp]

Obama promised transparency. How about it Mr. Prez. Open up Area 51 to CNN and lets see all those classified documents on UFO's.
How come no one ever brings this up in Congress or anywhere else in senior gov't circles? I'd have to say there is a major conspiracy. By the way, McCain reportedly witnessed that big sighting in Phoenix several years ago.

 

[cash poor]

Google EG & G then check out area 51 info relating to EG & G.
It made me think.
Truth be told, the world is run by the 5 banking families.
Check out Zietgeistthemovie.ca

 

[bishop]

I do not think that aliens wish to formally relations with anyone, not leaders of government not the illuminati not the builderberg group. If they want to make formal contact they can just make a youtube video and have their own xm radio broadcast.

Perhaps they do have a conversation or two with heads of government that have nuclear weapons, probably telling them that they will intervene and render their nuclear arms useless if they attempt to use them.

There are reports of ufos flying over nuke silos in Britain and causing the nuke missles to go offline.

Governments like the USA and britain probably want to keep this hush hush as they do not want people to know that their nukes will become duds.

I think Aliens are just curious and comming to earth is like going on safari, if I was given the opportunity to travel to another planet with intelligent beings just to observe and learn, I would gladly do it for atleast a few months.

As someone else here already said, the truth is often stranger than fiction. I am certain if we all knew the truth that the market for sci fi books/movies would be killed off because anything we can imagine will be dry in comparison to reality

 

[ig-88]

you cannot prove a negative

 

[Cinema Face]

Trying to travel close to or at the speed of light is not the solution. A new form of logic may open the door to traveling huge distances instantly in a blink of the eye - all based on String Theory and dimensional space travel.

String Theory is the unifying math to Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

If we're capable of understanding this logic today, it's plausible that another sentient life form has developed technology to use it.

Also, I assume in this discussion UFO = Alien Life Form

I am aware that there are theories in which faster than light speed is posible. The problem is that it would take more energy than we are capable of producing.

The egg-heads can put the equations together on the black board that make interstelar space travel theoretically posible. The problem is that to make a machine to actually do it is impossible with the technology that we have available.

 

[red]

you cannot prove a negative

ig-88 is a member of terb
all members of terb are negative
therefore ig-88 is negative.

 

[BottomsUp]

Very interesting thread.
Lets see now, the nearest star is Alpha Centauri at approx 4 light years away. This would presumably be the nearest constellation that could support life. So it would take them 4 years to get here assuming they could travel at light speed. Thats quite a while. How about food, fuel, cabin fever, etc. So how about a wormhole. Could reduce the travel time considerably. Are there wormholes? Me don't know. In fact nobody knows. In fact nobody really knows anything about aliens and where they may or may not come from. (except all the government conspirators of course). I got to believe there are other life forms out there in the vast expanse of space, and it frankly wouldn't shock me to find out they have been uninvited guests in our space, but who the hell knows.

 

[red]

I've seen wormholes in my garden. especially after it rains

 

[Cinema Face]

Very interesting thread.
Lets see now, the nearest star is Alpha Centauri at approx 41 light years away. .

4 light years. Alpha Centauri is a triple star system. The theory is that it probably would not have terrestial planets but who knows at this stage.

 

[BottomsUp]

4 light years. Alpha Centauri is a triple star system. The theory is that it probably would not have terrestial planets but who knows at this stage.

Thanks for the correction. I slipped a digit.